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Reviewing the first (Half) of the Hawks Season

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How has the team fared relative to your expectations thus far?

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Re: Reviewing the first month of the Hawks Season 

Post#21 » by Radioblacktive1 » Sun Dec 1, 2019 11:51 pm

jayu70 wrote:4-16 in first 20 games. Same as last season.


that actually makes me feel a little better.
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Post#23 » by tbhawksfan1 » Mon Dec 2, 2019 11:11 am

Take the rebuild as a long-term curve. Based on the curve and TS strategy, stats are right where you'd expect. With JC and Heurt, Hawks likely play above the curve. That's positive.

Clearly, the biggest positive is the Hawks now have a super-star in Trae.
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Post#25 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 3, 2019 3:22 pm

NBA ratings are down overall...but Hawks local broadcast ratings are up 43%?!?

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Post#26 » by bigdavid » Tue Dec 3, 2019 4:35 pm

finally they gave some burn to E Turner, This guy is a vet and knows how to win. The need him for court management and assists. 5 assists in 20 minutes and 32+/-. If you wan't to win play him!
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Post#27 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:23 pm

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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:35 pm

As if things weren't hard enough with the brutal schedule, the suspension and myriad injuries thus far...now the flu is making its way through the locker room.

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Post#29 » by jayu70 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:53 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:As if things weren't hard enough with the brutal schedule, the suspension and myriad injuries thus far...now the flu is making its way through the locker room.

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I can't wait for the Calender to turn to 2020. The end of 2019 has not been kind to Atlanta.
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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:43 pm

NBA Quarterly Grades

Atlanta Hawks: D

Given the preseason predictions of the Hawks improving significantly upon their 29-win season from a year ago, with a chance of making the playoffs, the start to this season has been incredibly disappointing for Atlanta. Trae Young has been absolutely phenomenal, but the same can't be said for the rest of the roster. John Collins getting slapped with a 25-game suspension for violating the NBA's anti-drug policy certainly didn't help, but his absence shouldn't affect this team to the point where it has only won three games without him. On the bright side, we've seen an unlikely resurgence from Jabari Parker, whose been toiling away in Chicago and Washington for the past few seasons. -- Jasmyn Wimbish
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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#31 » by jayu70 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:54 pm

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NBA Quarterly Grades

Atlanta Hawks: D

Given the preseason predictions of the Hawks improving significantly upon their 29-win season from a year ago, with a chance of making the playoffs, the start to this season has been incredibly disappointing for Atlanta. Trae Young has been absolutely phenomenal, but the same can't be said for the rest of the roster. John Collins getting slapped with a 25-game suspension for violating the NBA's anti-drug policy certainly didn't help, but his absence shouldn't affect this team to the point where it has only won three games without him. On the bright side, we've seen an unlikely resurgence from Jabari Parker, whose been toiling away in Chicago and Washington for the past few seasons. -- Jasmyn Wimbish
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This makes absolutely no sense.
It was supposed to be a starting lineup of Trae, John and Kevin - has not happened yet this season.
The vets who were supposed to help them were injured or missing games (Vince, Turner and Crabbe).
So we were left with rookies to pick up the slack.
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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#32 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:43 pm

At least the offense seems to have improved...

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Post#33 » by jayu70 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:17 pm

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Cam and Len have both improved.
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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#34 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:24 pm

Which NBA Storyline Has Been the Biggest Disappointment So Far?

The Jazz, Blazers and Hawks have all fell short of expectations so far this NBA season

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Trae Young’s Supporting Cast

Luka Doncic has built upon his lead over Trae Young in the battle of 2018 draft phenoms, but that’s not the fault of Atlanta’s standout point guard. Young is in the midst of a truly dominant offensive season, entering Friday averaging 27.9 points and 8.6 assists per game while shooting 37.6% from three. Young’s range is truly Curry-esque, and he’s finishing in the paint with greater efficiency compared to 2018-19. His passing is on another level. Young is on the Doncic plane in that regard, slinging passes to the corner with either hand. Hawks fans should be thrilled with Young’s development in Year two.

So how about Young’s teammates? It’s a rough group. Young’s supposed running mate John Collins is currently serving a 25-game PED suspension, and the rest of Atlanta’s supporting cast has struggled mightily. Rookie Cam Reddish is scuffling from the field while fellow lottery pick De’Andre Hunter has seen his production dip over the last two weeks. Atlanta’s offense ranges from middling to poor. It’s defense is downright disastrous. The Hawks rank No. 29 in defensive rating, only ahead of the hapless Wizards. Young holds some culpability here on this end, and his teammates aren’t helping. Pairing Young with Jabari Parker is a certified defensive disaster, and none of the young wings are ready to be upper-echelon defenders. There’s no true rim protection and few athletic defenders. Travis Schlenk hasn’t landed his Draymond for “Warriors East” quite yet.

Atlanta won 29 games last year, and expectations were relatively muted approaching 2019-20. But the Hawks aren’t on pace to finish .500, let alone sniff the eight seed in the Eastern Conference. Atlanta has taken a collective step back as its franchise point guard continues to ascend. Young’s frustration is warranted.
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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#35 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:55 am

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John Schuhmann wrote:There’s nothing wrong with having a little swagger. But when you’re a streaky shooter who plays for a bad team, some of your more boastful moments might get thrown back in your face. Last November, Trae Young hit a long 3-pointer at Staples Center to put his team up four with less than five minutes to go, and he made sure Lakers’ fans saw where he shot it from. The Hawks lost that fourth-quarter lead (in what was their fourth of 10 straight losses) and Young proceeded to make just one of his next 27 3-point attempts (with the one he made being a somewhat fortunate bank shot). On Tuesday, Young said “it’s over” when his team went up six with a minute to go in Miami. The Heat proceeded to score the next 22 points, the Hawks have scored just 92 points per 100 possessions since Young’s declaration, and the Miami loss began what is now a four-game losing streak.
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Post#37 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:05 pm

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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#38 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:47 pm

Not what to do with this, but Hawks have one of the best net ratings in 3rd quarters this year...and one of the worst net ratings in 4th quarters this year.

The offense simply craters...Signs of a young team that can't close out games?

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Re: Reviewing the first (Quarter) of the Hawks Season 

Post#39 » by King Ken » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:04 pm

We are unstoppable in transition outside of Reddish who is hit or miss in that area. We suck in the half court when teams sit on the PnR.

Due to the lack of off ball movement, two way players for now, we just get stuck.

Defensively, it's even worse. Teams attack either Trae or Kevin or when Parker and Jones was playing, attack them relentlessly. Our best moments are v. Teams who best players are guards or wings where we just have Cam or Hunter guard them. Other than that, we are food.
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Post#40 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:51 pm

Nice loss to CLEV:

JC comes back and has a solid 25/10
Trae was Trae
Hunter and Heurter were very solid
Cam was shaky but a positive +/- and good minutes
Pierce was up to Something with Chemistry. all the bigs seemed to be in the dog house. Parker got the most mins with 15, tied with VC
Hawks gained a game in the w/l column against a high lottery team

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