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[Bogyo]

I'm not the biggest Ayton fan but when he comes back he better be averaging 25 pts and 12 rebs per game because Luka is making him look like a arse clown. BTW I also wonder how the Hawks feel?

I don't get that vibe from him at all, sorry to dissapoint. He will do his thing, get the double-double, get that second contract, but by no means is he out the gates with bloodlust and fire under his ass. Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

[sunsbg]

I'm not the biggest Ayton fan but when he comes back he better be averaging 25 pts and 12 rebs per game because Luka is making him look like a arse clown. BTW I also wonder how the Hawks feel?

I don't get that vibe from him at all, sorry to dissapoint. He will do his thing, get the double-double, get that second contract, but by no means is he out the gates with bloodlust and fire under his ass. Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

I wanted badly a C, but someone with a mean streak like Embiid. Ayton obviously didn't have it in him then and probably will never have it. I still liked him as a Nr1 pick though. He has skills - scoring, rebounding, even passing. No idea how the suspension will reflect on him, I hope it motivates him for the rest of his career. Maybe Luka's dominance lights a fire in him. We'll see.

[bwgood77]

I'm not the biggest Ayton fan but when he comes back he better be averaging 25 pts and 12 rebs per game because Luka is making him look like a arse clown. BTW I also wonder how the Hawks feel?

I don't get that vibe from him at all, sorry to dissapoint. He will do his thing, get the double-double, get that second contract, but by no means is he out the gates with bloodlust and fire under his ass. Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

Lets wait and see before guessing. Who knows? He looked great in his first game, and the whole team has played differently under Monty. He's been able to watch Baynes, has a real PG who does great bounce passes to him, and might be extra motivated after suspension. Who cares what Luka is doing relative to how Ayton will do as well? I get talking about Luka since he is having historic season but at this point it doesn't have much to do with Ayton.

[bwgood77]

I'm not the biggest Ayton fan but when he comes back he better be averaging 25 pts and 12 rebs per game because Luka is making him look like a arse clown. BTW I also wonder how the Hawks feel?

I don't get that vibe from him at all, sorry to dissapoint. He will do his thing, get the double-double, get that second contract, but by no means is he out the gates with bloodlust and fire under his ass. Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

I wanted badly a C, but someone with a mean streak like Embiid. Ayton obviously didn't have it in him then and probably will never have it. I still liked him as a Nr1 pick though. He has skills - scoring, rebounding, even passing. No idea how the suspension will reflect on him, I hope it motivates him for the rest of his career. Maybe Luka's dominance lights a fire in him. We'll see.

Maybe not a mean streak, but can play great D....Tim Duncan never had a mean streak. Just solid defense and maybe a little of a poor man's Towns game...or lets say in some ways similar to Towns but better defensively and inside but maybe not quite the 3 pt shooter or passer. He doesn't need to be historic like Duncan, Robinson or Hakeem. Just a solid presence...that will help immensely.

[Bogyo]

I don't get that vibe from him at all, sorry to dissapoint. He will do his thing, get the double-double, get that second contract, but by no means is he out the gates with bloodlust and fire under his ass. Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

I wanted badly a C, but someone with a mean streak like Embiid. Ayton obviously didn't have it in him then and probably will never have it. I still liked him as a Nr1 pick though. He has skills - scoring, rebounding, even passing. No idea how the suspension will reflect on him, I hope it motivates him for the rest of his career. Maybe Luka's dominance lights a fire in him. We'll see.

Maybe not a mean streak, but can play great D....Tim Duncan never had a mean streak. Just solid defense and maybe a little of a poor man's Towns game...or lets say in some ways similar to Towns but better defensively and inside but maybe not quite the 3 pt shooter or passer. He doesn't need to be historic like Duncan, Robinson or Hakeem. Just a solid presence...that will help immensely.

No, he doesn't need to be historic - but he could be, and his peer is having a historic season. That's whats so stingy about it.

[Jstock12]

Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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[Revived]

Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Trae is playing like a 20 yr old sophomore rising star which is still really damn good. Luka’s playing like a 27 yr old superstar so his comparisons should be more with guys like Harden, Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron because he’s already in that tier.

[Jstock12]

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Trae is playing like a 20 yr old sophomore rising star which is still really damn good. Luka’s playing like a 27 yr old superstar so his comparisons should be more with guys like Harden, Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron because he’s already in that tier.

And also, while it doesn't mean much, Trae is already 21. Luka still 20.

[Qwigglez]

Wow. I was going into this thread to talk about Trae and I see we are already discussing him. Why is he getting so much attention when the Hawks have only won 5 games? Slightly annoyed because Booker was treated as a stat ladder the last 4 years but Trae is getting a lot of hype when he’s on a bad team in the Eastern Conference. It must be the new NBA and the fascination with the three pointer onslaught.

[bwgood77]

Kings lost to Bulls...that's a good thing for us.

[Revived]

Man it hurts knowing that Holmes costs the same $$$ as Kaminsky.

His rebounding, defense and hustle are a big reason why Sacramento is still in so many games without Fox & Bagley.

Maybe if they flame out soon and start tanking, we can trade a 2nd rd pick for him back.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wow. I was going into this thread to talk about Trae and I see we are already discussing him. Why is he getting so much attention when the Hawks have only won 5 games? Slightly annoyed because Booker was treated as a stat ladder the last 4 years but Trae is getting a lot of hype when he’s on a bad team in the Eastern Conference. It must be the new NBA and the fascination with the three pointer onslaught.

Oh it's coming for trae. I'd say by about this time next year people will be talking about his horrid d and asking 'can you win with him'.

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[Bogyo]

Yes, we will be better with him, yes he will have some natural improvements to his game (more experience, better coaching, Ricky passes), but he is not gonna challange Luka or Trae, it's just not his nature. Sorry.

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Here is hoping that when Ayton comes back he is able to seperate himself from that middle gourp.

[Qwigglez]

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Here is hoping that when Ayton comes back he is able to seperate himself from that middle gourp.

And hopefully you can't even see Luka because Ayton will have a larger picture and covers him.

[Saberestar]

Kings lost to Bulls...that's a good thing for us.

Yeah, that was a good one for us.

But the team that bothers me the most are the Blazers. I think they will be in the playoffs for sure.
Melo was a great addition.

[bwgood77]

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Here is hoping that when Ayton comes back he is able to seperate himself from that middle gourp.

I am pretty sure he will be higher than Trae and to the right of that cluster. Maybe higher than the line if his first game D was for real.

[bwgood77]

Kings lost to Bulls...that's a good thing for us.

Yeah, that was a good one for us.

But the team that bothers me the most are the Blazers. I think they will be in the playoffs for sure.
Melo was a great addition.

I already said I think they will make it, but on their 3 game winning streak they've beaten the Bulls twice and OKC, so not THAT impressive.

[Jstock12]

Trae is good, but let's not put him in the same sentence as Luka. They're not close.

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Here is hoping that when Ayton comes back he is able to seperate himself from that middle gourp.

I am pretty sure he will be higher than Trae and to the right of that cluster. Maybe higher than the line if his first game D was for real.

Oh he will definitely be higher than Trae, but probably not nearly as far to the right. Here's how the Suns TPA looked after that first game. You can see that Ayton contributed positively to the defensive points saved and was a Net Positive overall. The only significantly negative player was Saric who had a bad game.

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[Ball4life32]

Wow. I was going into this thread to talk about Trae and I see we are already discussing him. Why is he getting so much attention when the Hawks have only won 5 games? Slightly annoyed because Booker was treated as a stat ladder the last 4 years but Trae is getting a lot of hype when he’s on a bad team in the Eastern Conference. It must be the new NBA and the fascination with the three pointer onslaught.

Oh it's coming for trae. I'd say by about this time next year people will be talking about his horrid d and asking 'can you win with him'.

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Hawks are missing their 2nd & 3rd best player (Collins/Huerter) & have played the 2nd hardest schedule in the NBA so far. Plus they’ve started two rookies & have had a Jabari Parker/Damian Jones frontcourt most of the year...the bench has been bad too. They are 2-1 with a 2 pt loss to Philly with their full team to be fair. They will look much better next year when they have a full team & are not tanking of course barring injuries.

[bwgood77]

Wow. I was going into this thread to talk about Trae and I see we are already discussing him. Why is he getting so much attention when the Hawks have only won 5 games? Slightly annoyed because Booker was treated as a stat ladder the last 4 years but Trae is getting a lot of hype when he’s on a bad team in the Eastern Conference. It must be the new NBA and the fascination with the three pointer onslaught.

Oh it's coming for trae. I'd say by about this time next year people will be talking about his horrid d and asking 'can you win with him'.

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Hawks are missing their 2nd & 3rd best player (Collins/Huerter) & have played the 2nd hardest schedule in the NBA so far. Plus they’ve started two rookies & have had a Jabari Parker/Damian Jones frontcourt most of the year...the bench has been bad too. They are 2-1 with a 2 pt loss to Philly with their full team to be fair. They will look much better next year when they have a full team & are not tanking of course barring injuries.

Suns have kind of been in the same boat. Missing Ayton and a number of games with Baynes also out and now Diallo too, so no center. Also had our backup PG out all year and starting PG out a number of games.

We have played the 7th toughest schedule, though it was 4th before last night. You have actually now played the toughest according to this. I don't think your team when healthy, is nearly as bad as the record indicates, however, I don't think the roster you are playing with currently is any worse than the Suns roster was last year...it was full of g league level players, Booke, two rookies and a declining Ariza or a new Oubre trying to fit in. No PG or PF really.