OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond

[dice]

Hockenson will be dynamite once he leaves Detroit. Ebron ends up being a very good player once he’s out of Detroit.

In fact, if Trubisky balls out for the rest of the reason, Pace needs to address the O-line and the TE position. Matt Nagy should get zero input in term of finding the right players for his gimmick plays. See his bs love affair for trash players like Mike Davis. I am also a proponent of drafting at least a QB every year regardless of our investment in Trubisky.

Nagy needs to shape his offense around talented players and not the other way around.

and if he doesn't have talented players?

also, given that he barely played mike davis, why do you suggest that nagy had a "love affair" with him?

I think he means love affair by having signed Mike Davis at all in the first place (not to mention not playing him at all).

so signing a guy indicates a love affair? did nagy even request that pace sign davis?

[MeloRoseNoah]

Hockenson will be dynamite once he leaves Detroit. Ebron ends up being a very good player once he’s out of Detroit.

In fact, if Trubisky balls out for the rest of the reason, Pace needs to address the O-line and the TE position. Matt Nagy should get zero input in term of finding the right players for his gimmick plays. See his bs love affair for trash players like Mike Davis. I am also a proponent of drafting at least a QB every year regardless of our investment in Trubisky.

Nagy needs to shape his offense around talented players and not the other way around.

and if he doesn't have talented players?

also, given that he barely played mike davis, why do you suggest that nagy had a "love affair" with him?

I have very low opinion of Nagy opinion to judge talent considering that he thinks Mike Davis is a better fit for his gimmick bs offense than Jordan Howard.

He has escaped scotch free from his garbage gimmick offense especially when it comes to the run game. Let’s also not forgot his love affair for untalented bums outside of Mike Davis like Sheheen, Gabriel, and Kyle Long.

So if Pace is an elite talent evaluator, he needs to bring in talented player and push Nagy to design plays around the strengths of his players.

[Susan]

Bears are alive!

[RedBulls23]

I'll believe if they win the next two games.

Cowboys should be winnable, but Packers in Green Bay is the real test.

[Susan]

I'll believe if they win the next two games.

Cowboys should be winnable, but Packers in Green Bay is the real test.

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[Payt10]

I'm not going to allow myself to get excited until they beat DAL and GB. I'm not sure they're even going to beat DAL, to be honest. If Aikeem Hicks could play this week, I'd probably change my mind, but I'm not confident enough in the Bears defense to be able to contain DAL and hold them to under 20.

If they finish the year 9-7, or even 10-6 and still miss the playoffs, it's really going to highlight how awful that loss to the Chargers was from a few weeks ago. You've got to beat the bum teams when you get them.

[dice]

I'm not going to allow myself to get excited until they beat DAL and GB. I'm not sure they're even going to beat DAL, to be honest. If Aikeem Hicks could play this week, I'd probably change my mind, but I'm not confident enough in the Bears defense to be able to contain DAL and hold them to under 20.

If they finish the year 9-7, or even 10-6 and still miss the playoffs, it's really going to highlight how awful that loss to the Chargers was from a few weeks ago. You've got to beat the bum teams when you get them.

hicks is not eligible to return until green bay due to being put on IR

cowboys 3 pt favs vs bears, vikings 14 over lions and seahawks 2.5 over rams

[Payt10]

I'm not going to allow myself to get excited until they beat DAL and GB. I'm not sure they're even going to beat DAL, to be honest. If Aikeem Hicks could play this week, I'd probably change my mind, but I'm not confident enough in the Bears defense to be able to contain DAL and hold them to under 20.

If they finish the year 9-7, or even 10-6 and still miss the playoffs, it's really going to highlight how awful that loss to the Chargers was from a few weeks ago. You've got to beat the bum teams when you get them.

hicks is not eligible to return until green bay due to being put on IR

Yeah, I meant if he was allowed to come back this week, I probably would pick the Bears, but since he's not, I'd lean more towards the Cowboys winning.

Of course, a more Bears-ian way to go out would be to win against the Cowboys, and then lose to GB a week later so that Aaron Rodgers can be the one again to ruin your playoff dreams. That would suck.. Although, I will say that he's not nearly as intimidating as he used to be. Bears may have broken that curse last year when they beat him at home to clinch the division. Still.. You'd hate to see it.

[HearshotKDS]

With Hicks back the defense probably keeps this game close, but this feels like we're in for a 25/38 180 Yards 1 TD 4 sacks game from Trubisky where the offense struggles to score.

[The Explorer]

With Hicks back the defense probably keeps this game close, but this feels like we're in for a 25/38 180 Yards 1 TD 4 sacks game from Trubisky where the offense struggles to score.

Hicks is back at practice but he's out until the packers game.

[dougthonus]

I'll believe if they win the next two games.

Cowboys should be winnable, but Packers in Green Bay is the real test.

I'll believer when I see it.

To make the playoffs they need to win out.

All four remaining opponents are better than 5 of their 6 wins so far.

[ATRAIN53]

We're still in the "IN THE HUNT" column.
This is gonna mean 2-3 more years of Turbisky and a huge extension now...

Cowboys at Bears - this is THE NFL Marquee matchup.
2 of the biggest most loyal fan bases. This game is HUGE.
Hicks back is great but were still missing TREVATHIAN and that is a huge hole.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/nfl-rumors-raiders-nemesis-philip-rivers-could-leave-chargers-bears

If Rivers decides to continue his career, a league source suggested to La Canfora that the veteran could join the Bears next season.

[dougthonus]

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/nfl-rumors-raiders-nemesis-philip-rivers-could-leave-chargers-bears

If Rivers decides to continue his career, a league source suggested to La Canfora that the veteran could join the Bears next season.

Rivers had a huge drop off this year and is 38. It's likely this drop off is due to falling off the cliff due to age and isn't going to return to form at 39. I wouldn't be against giving it a shot and seeing what happens given that I think it's better odds than Trubisky, but there's a lot of reason to believe he's not going to be the answer and that a few weeks in we will be pretty disappointed.

[Susan]

I'll believe if they win the next two games.

Cowboys should be winnable, but Packers in Green Bay is the real test.

I'll believer when I see it.

To make the playoffs they need to win out.

All four remaining opponents are better than 5 of their 6 wins so far.

Vikings are better than the Vikings?

Cowboys are imploding.

Hick's coming back, Roquan Smith is seriously rolling, Taylor Gabriel, Trey Burton and Shaheen aren't playing. Wims, Miller and anything are better options than what those three produced in the first half of the year.

[dougthonus]

Vikings are better than the Vikings?

Cowboys are imploding.

Hick's coming back, Roquan Smith is seriously rolling, Taylor Gabriel, Trey Burton and Shaheen aren't playing. Wims, Miller and anything are better options than what those three produced in the first half of the year.

I said better than 5 of their 6 wins.

Every team left is better than:
Lions x2 3-8-1
Giants 2-10
Redskins 3-9
Broncos 4-8

[RedBulls23]

Vikings are better than the Vikings?

Cowboys are imploding.

Hick's coming back, Roquan Smith is seriously rolling, Taylor Gabriel, Trey Burton and Shaheen aren't playing. Wims, Miller and anything are better options than what those three produced in the first half of the year.

I said better than 5 of their 6 wins.

Every team left is better than:
Lions x2 3-8-1
Giants 2-10
Redskins 3-9
Broncos 4-8

Yeah that's why I think IF they show they can win the next 2 games it make make you feel more confident.

I don't expect them to, but we'll see.

[dougthonus]

Yeah that's why I think IF they show they can win the next 2 games it make make you feel more confident.

I don't expect them to, but we'll see.

Obviously mathematically every win you get massively increases the likeliness of winning out as winning 2 in a row (after 2 wins) is much easier than having to win 4 in a row.

I won't believe after two in a row (and like you don't expect that anyway), but I'll certainly readjust the odds to reflect the new reality of two in a row being somewhat feasible compared to four.

The Bears are listed as roughly a 3% chance to make the playoffs now, 2 wins probably increases those odds to 25-30% or so (obviously various greatly depending on what the Rams/Vikings do over the same two weeks.

[johnnyvann840]

Need a miracle

[Jeffster81]

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/nfl-rumors-raiders-nemesis-philip-rivers-could-leave-chargers-bears

If Rivers decides to continue his career, a league source suggested to La Canfora that the veteran could join the Bears next season.

Rivers had a huge drop off this year and is 38. It's likely this drop off is due to falling off the cliff due to age and isn't going to return to form at 39. I wouldn't be against giving it a shot and seeing what happens given that I think it's better odds than Trubisky, but there's a lot of reason to believe he's not going to be the answer and that a few weeks in we will be pretty disappointed.

I think there is some gas left in the tank for Rivers but is Nagy and the Bears the right fit to get it out of Rivers Don't know. But would not mind taking the chance on Rivers on a 1 year deal.

[dice]

Yeah that's why I think IF they show they can win the next 2 games it make make you feel more confident.

I don't expect them to, but we'll see.

Obviously mathematically every win you get massively increases the likeliness of winning out as winning 2 in a row (after 2 wins) is much easier than having to win 4 in a row.

I won't believe after two in a row (and like you don't expect that anyway), but I'll certainly readjust the odds to reflect the new reality of two in a row being somewhat feasible compared to four.

The Bears are listed as roughly a 3% chance to make the playoffs now, 2 wins probably increases those odds to 25-30% or so (obviously various greatly depending on what the Rams/Vikings do over the same two weeks.

football outsiders has bears down to 8th ranked defense and 25th ranked offense, w/ playoff chances of 3.6% (minny 86.1, rams 16.2)

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds

given that less than 5% is considered statistically insignificant, it's gonna take another good week to have reasonable hope