Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#141 » by djsunyc » Fri Nov 1, 2019 12:40 am

chrismikayla wrote:https://clutchpoints.com/hawks-news-lloyd-pierce-optimistic-about-cam-reddish-despite-slow-start/

There's not a better coach out there to develop young talent than Coach Pierce. Watch 76ers players rave about how he helped develop their games. If Coach Pierce says he will be fine offensively then Hawks fans can rest easy. The man knows young talent and how to develop it.


didn't do a lot for ben's shooting tho :)
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#142 » by ChuckChilly » Fri Nov 1, 2019 4:01 pm

Starting to think that Reddish will end up being a Corey Brewer type player/ have a similar career trajectory.

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#143 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Dec 5, 2019 12:50 pm

Hopefully this is a step towards him turning things around very soon...

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#144 » by dk1115 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 1:24 pm

Introducing:

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Although he isn't starting anymore.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#145 » by marco102 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 2:07 pm

Patience is key! There are way too many proclamations about rookies and sophmores on this board. Just give everyone three to four years before declaring them a bust or generational talents.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#146 » by Buzzard » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:03 pm

marco102 wrote:Patience is key! There are way too many proclamations about rookies and sophmores on this board. Just give everyone three to four years before declaring them a bust or generational talents.


Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#147 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:19 pm

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#148 » by Pinkyring » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:30 pm

Buzzard wrote:
marco102 wrote:Patience is key! There are way too many proclamations about rookies and sophmores on this board. Just give everyone three to four years before declaring them a bust or generational talents.


Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#149 » by 12footrim » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:39 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
marco102 wrote:Patience is key! There are way too many proclamations about rookies and sophmores on this board. Just give everyone three to four years before declaring them a bust or generational talents.


Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker


With Young you look at his college numbers and percentages and there was at least a reason to believe in him. There is no such reason for Reddish.Also Young was inserted into a much bigger scoring role early on which would more explain his poor shooting. It's a lot easier to shoot well if you aren't being asked to get up shots and rather shooting more open ones in the flo like Reddish is.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#150 » by Buzzard » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:40 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
marco102 wrote:Patience is key! There are way too many proclamations about rookies and sophmores on this board. Just give everyone three to four years before declaring them a bust or generational talents.


Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker

You are a small sample size kind of guy, your name implies this as well :lol: I prefer a much larger sample size myself when it comes to proof.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#151 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:42 pm

He needs time develop that’s what his scouting report said . So .... ask me in March .
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Post#152 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:43 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Hopefully this is a step towards him turning things around very soon...

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#153 » by Pinkyring » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:44 pm

Buzzard wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker

You are a small sample size kind of guy, your name implies this as well :lol: I prefer a much larger sample size myself when it comes to proof.

One season college is the only sample size he has so wtf are you talking about?
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Post#154 » by Buzzard » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:51 pm

12footrim wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Trae Young, 2018 November Splits:
16 Games, 28.2 Minutes, 14.0 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 8.1 AST, .355 FG%, .198 3PT%, .860 FT%, .443 TS%

Cam Reddish, 2019 November Splits:
12 Games, 23.4 Minutes, 7.9 PTS, 3.1 TRB, 1.5 AST, .320 FG%, .279 3PT%, .760 FT%, .428 TS%

It will be quite the story if Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has caught lightning in a bottle twice with another player a large majority said things like: Don't draft, bust, reach, average role player at best etc...

I like this thread myself, so keep them coming :)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngtr01/splits/2019

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker


With Young you look at his college numbers and percentages and there was at least a reason to believe in him. There is no such reason for Reddish.Also Young was inserted into a much bigger scoring role early on which would more explain his poor shooting. It's a lot easier to shoot well if you aren't being asked to get up shots and rather shooting more open ones in the flo like Reddish is.

Reddish had some nice runs in college; but he had more bad ones than good ones. Back to my point, Reddish just turned 20 three months ago, easy may apply by the time he is 21 or 22. Right now the competition level is night and day difference from anything he has ever seen. That goes for all these rookies.

I just don't think easy is a good term to use for any rookie having to start in the NBA. Reddish was thrown in as a starter due to Huerter's injury from day one. It would have been easier if Huerter was healthy from day one and Reddish could have eased his way in. It is what it is though; and maybe this baptism by fire will help him grow quicker.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#155 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:54 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:He needs time develop that’s what his scouting report said . So .... ask me in March .


March 2021.

That's when you'll really have a better idea of what to expect long-term. By the end of year two, there should be enough glimpses and sample size.
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It's worth noting that in 10 home games he's been at least decent offensively -- avg 10 ppg & 4 rpg shooting 37% from 3-pt range.
He's been absolute garbage on the road, though -- 6 ppg & 4 rpg shooting 11% from 3-pt range.

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Post#156 » by Buzzard » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:56 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:One guy had proven to be an awesome scorer the other had proven to be an inefficient chucker

You are a small sample size kind of guy, your name implies this as well :lol: I prefer a much larger sample size myself when it comes to proof.

One season college is the only sample size he has so wtf are you talking about?

You are calling him a bust from a small sample size. Is that rocket science for you?
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Post#157 » by Jody Smokz » Thu Dec 5, 2019 3:57 pm

Cam Reddish has talent. Might be funny to get the jokes off while the kid is struggling but its clear he has NBA skill. Just isn't performing well.
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Post#158 » by Buzzard » Thu Dec 5, 2019 4:04 pm

Jody Smokz wrote:Cam Reddish has talent. Might be funny to get the jokes off while the kid is struggling but its clear he has NBA skill. Just isn't performing well.

Trae worked out with Nash and a few others this past off season; I would love for Reddish to go work out with Kobe this off season.
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Post#159 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 4:05 pm

I would look into Cam's history before I get too excited after one good game. There is a reason Cam was still able to go 10th overall even after having such a horrible season. Cam is known for having a game where he flashes great potential, then he goes back to his normal play where he looks like he's never played basketball before.

You can go back to his AAU days, you can go back to the opening of his senior year where he dropped like 50+ points and was put as the prospect in the close for a short period of time. You can go to the Army, FSU game or a few others at Duke. Cam having a game where he puts it all together and looks fantastic is nothing new. But coming from a guy that has fallen for the "this is the game where he turned it all around and its all clicking for him" multiple times. I think it's safe to hold up before saying he has turned the corner.
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Post#160 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Dec 5, 2019 4:08 pm

Jody Smokz wrote:Cam Reddish has talent. Might be funny to get the jokes off while the kid is struggling but its clear he has NBA skill. Just isn't performing well.


Agreed. And I've been very critical of him this season, but he's clearly improving.

He has now tied/set career highs in scoring 4 times in the last 3 weeks.

  • 12 points -- 11/16 @ LA Clippers
  • 13 points -- 11/17 @ LA Lakers
  • 17 points -- 11/20 vs MIL
  • 25 points -- 12/4 vs Nets

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