Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

clyde21 · Post #181 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 5, 2019 7:56 pm

some weird Cam hate in this thread

i have big reservations about his future but I'm happy he had a great game, hopefully he enjoys this feeling enough where it lights a fire under him to play like this more often...the potential he has is immense

Stillwater · Post #182 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Dec 5, 2019 9:54 pm

clyde21 wrote:some weird Cam hate in this thread

i have big reservations about his future but I'm happy he had a great game, hopefully he enjoys this feeling enough where it lights a fire under him to play like this more often...the potential he has is immense

i think it was the exception to what has been the rule and it really didnt move the needle for me at all.
maybe if he can produce at that level one in 10 games the rest of the season he can be reasonably veiwed as the better option in their rotation over somebody older and soon to be gone than just the project tank commander he has been up until this game getting plenty of minutes while playing poorly w/ atl just using him in the rotation for development and tank purposes & him having low impact most games.

nbhadja · Post #183 » by **nbhadja** » Thu Dec 5, 2019 10:00 pm

E-Balla wrote:He shot 36% from the field at Duke. How anyone had expectations for him is beyond me.

Some how many moron fans, GMs, scouts, and media "experts" still thought he would be good in the NBA despite sucking in college and shooting 36% :lol:

Hype is like a drug to some people! They just can't quit it once they start!

I like how one good game is supposed to change this lol. he is awful!! any chucker can have a good game thanks to random variation, but it took him like 20 games to have one good shooting game..that is how awful he is.

clyde21 · Post #184 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 5, 2019 10:04 pm

nbhadja wrote:
E-Balla wrote:He shot 36% from the field at Duke. How anyone had expectations for him is beyond me.

Some how many moron fans, GMs, scouts, and media "experts" still thought he would be good in the NBA despite sucking in college and shooting 36% Hype is like a drug to some people! They just can't quit it once they start!

I like how one good game is supposed to change this lol. he is awful!! any chucker can have a good game thanks to random variation, but it took him like 20 games to have one good shooting game..that is how awful he is.

i mean, people took that into account, the reason he dropped to 10 is because he shot 36% at Duke, if he shot, I dunno, 45% he wouldn't probably been a top5 pick.

Ball4life32 · Post #185 » by **Ball4life32** » Thu Dec 5, 2019 10:22 pm

nbhadja wrote:
E-Balla wrote:He shot 36% from the field at Duke. How anyone had expectations for him is beyond me.

Some how many moron fans, GMs, scouts, and media "experts" still thought he would be good in the NBA despite sucking in college and shooting 36% Hype is like a drug to some people! They just can't quit it once they start!

I like how one good game is supposed to change this lol. he is awful!! any chucker can have a good game thanks to random variation, but it took him like 20 games to have one good shooting game..that is how awful he is.

Except this isn’t his first good shooting game.

Last 6 games:
10.8 points / 3.3 rebounds / 1.2 assists (25 mins)
41% FG / 36% 3pt

At least showing some progress.

Post #186 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:25 pm

I not sure it was worth trading away a generational player to end up with a future role player coming off the bench. But the Covington comparison seems a reasonable expectation for the kid moving forward...

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In 8 December Games thus far:

Avg 11 ppg 5 rpg on 35% shooting from 3-pt range.

nikster · Post #187 » by **nikster** » Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
nbhadja wrote:
E-Balla wrote:He shot 36% from the field at Duke. How anyone had expectations for him is beyond me.

Some how many moron fans, GMs, scouts, and media "experts" still thought he would be good in the NBA despite sucking in college and shooting 36% Hype is like a drug to some people! They just can't quit it once they start!

I like how one good game is supposed to change this lol. he is awful!! any chucker can have a good game thanks to random variation, but it took him like 20 games to have one good shooting game..that is how awful he is.

Except this isn’t his first good shooting game.

Last 6 games:
10.8 points / 3.3 rebounds / 1.2 assists (25 mins)
41% FG / 36% 3pt

At least showing some progress.

welp there goes that progress

last 6 games down to 35/32%

E-Balla · Post #188 » by **E-Balla** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:38 am

Jamaaliver wrote:I not sure it was worth trading away a generational player to end up with a future role player coming off the bench. But the Covington comparison seems a reasonable expectation for the kid moving forward...

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In 8 December Games thus far:

Avg 11 ppg 5 rpg on 35% shooting from 3-pt range.

No part of RoCo has ever struggled defending the ball. He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league easily.

Post #189 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:16 am

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The_Hater · Post #190 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:28 pm

This was his first decent game in about 6 weeks. Reddish was a team worst -26 and the Hawks were blown out. Again.

Other than that, nothing but positives in the development of Cam Reddish.....

Jamaaliver wrote:

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urgal · Post #191 » by **urgal** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:

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Glad he's making some progress, but man do I hate those cherry picked statlines :noway:

ballup · Post #192 » by **ballup** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:44 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I not sure it was worth trading away a generational player to end up with a future role player coming off the bench. But the Covington comparison seems a reasonable expectation for the kid moving forward...

Read on Twitter

In 8 December Games thus far:

Avg 11 ppg 5 rpg on 35% shooting from 3-pt range.

No part of RoCo has ever struggled defending the ball. He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league easily.

He has struggled defending quick point guards and decent sized wings with ISO ability. Roco is really more of handsy team defender than a 1 on 1 guy.

E-Balla · Post #193 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:31 pm

ballup wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I not sure it was worth trading away a generational player to end up with a future role player coming off the bench. But the Covington comparison seems a reasonable expectation for the kid moving forward...

Read on Twitter

In 8 December Games thus far:

Avg 11 ppg 5 rpg on 35% shooting from 3-pt range.

No part of RoCo has ever struggled defending the ball. He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league easily.

He has struggled defending quick point guards and decent sized wings with ISO ability. Roco is really more of handsy team defender than a 1 on 1 guy.

He guards SGs and SFs because that's his position. It's not a weakness that he can't guard positions he doesn't play, it's just not a strength.

kg01 · Post #194 » by **kg01** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:

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I'm not sure why you even bother. The GB die has been cast on this guy. Doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do, at this point.

Also, like the one dude said, I hate cherry-picked statlines as well.

"First player with 12 points, 4 assists, 2 boards on a Tuesday in December since Olajuwon" or w/e. Just say he had a good game.

PlatinumState · Post #195 » by **PlatinumState** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:26 pm

I feel like one day he can become a "good stats on a bad team" type of player ala Ricky Davis :lol:

cmd1985 · Post #196 » by **cmd1985** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:16 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I not sure it was worth trading away a generational player to end up with a future role player coming off the bench. But the Covington comparison seems a reasonable expectation for the kid moving forward...

Read on Twitter

In 8 December Games thus far:

Avg 11 ppg 5 rpg on 35% shooting from 3-pt range.

No part of RoCo has ever struggled defending the ball. He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league easily.

Covington isn't a great on ball defender. He's a great team defender, deflections, rotations, but just straight one on one defense he's not amazing

ballup · Post #197 » by **ballup** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:12 pm

E-Balla wrote:
ballup wrote:
E-Balla wrote:No part of RoCo has ever struggled defending the ball. He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league easily.

He has struggled defending quick point guards and decent sized wings with ISO ability. Roco is really more of handsy team defender than a 1 on 1 guy.

He guards SGs and SFs because that's his position. It's not a weakness that he can't guard positions he doesn't play, it's just not a strength.

He has been regularly assigned both point guards and wings in the past. He now defends 4s majorly though.

You can't say he has never struggled defending the ball when he has had success defending one type of point guard and not another.

Post #198 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:42 am

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Dr_Heat · Post #199 » by **Dr_Heat** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:44 am

The kid is still very young , give him time to develop

Bornstellar · Post #200 » by **Bornstellar** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:51 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

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Everyone goes off against SA. Team on a losing streak? Player in a slump? Just play San Antonio