2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

Post #41 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:05 pm

Wow, ESPN has LaMelo Ball ranked #1. The rest:

--Jonathan Givony

2

Anthony Edwards
Georgia
SG

3

James Wiseman
Memphis
C

4

Cole Anthony
North Carolina
PG

5
RJ Hampton
USA
PG

6
Deni Avdija
Israel
SF

7

Nico Mannion
Arizona
PG

8

Tyrese Maxey
Kentucky
SG

9

Jaden McDaniels
Washington
PF

10

Tyrese Haliburton
Iowa State
PG

11

Precious Achiuwa
Memphis
PF

12
Theo Maledon
France
PG

13

Obi Toppin
Dayton
PF

14
Killian Hayes
France
PG

15

Isaac Okoro
Auburn
SF

16

Josh Green
Arizona
SG

17

Isaiah Stewart
Washington
C

18

Vernon Carey Jr
Duke
C

19

Scottie Lewis
Florida
SG

20

Trendon Watford
LSU
SF

21

Tre Jones
Duke
PG

22

Patrick Williams
Florida State
SF

23

Zeke Nnaji
Arizona
PF

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

Revived · Post #42 » by **Revived** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 7:36 pm

Read on Twitter

A lot of people don’t like Kellan Olson but he was one of the very first people that I follow on Twitter (and I follow a lot of basketball guys) who was on the Luka Doncic bandwagon from way way before the draft even.

Definitely holds some credibility imo.

Post #43 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 7:43 pm

Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

A lot of people don’t like Kellan Olson but he was one of the very first people that I follow on Twitter (and I follow a lot of basketball guys) who was on the Luka Doncic bandwagon from way way before the draft even.

Definitely holds some credibility imo.

Quite early for assessments. He's only played one good team so far and didn't play particularly well. 3-11 from the field, 0-3 from 3 with 7 assists.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #44 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 12:35 am

My phone keeps deleting my posts, So I'm not really going to screw around with the details of each prospect. But I'll post then re edit them as I can.

Lok Wur: A 6'8 185 lb. wing with unbelievable athleticism, agility, speed and aggression at such a young age. Someone to definitely keep an eye on as he develops.

Watch on YouTube

Then if Ayton comes back and doesn't manage to develop some aggression, rim protection and consistent intensity, We simply move him to power forward position, As he's just so damn similar to LaMarcus Aldridge anyways. They're both big men who have length, athleticism and smooth offensive games, But offer really no real rim protection and dominant post presence defensively. Doing this would allow us to target an actual dominant rim protector, and strong defensive presence in order to cover gor his weaknesses whilst he just focuses on dominating offensively in the paintband drawing defenders to create open perimeter shots.

The following Big man prospects are who I'd specifically target in either the 2020 or 2021 drafts accordingly, Should we move Ayton to the 4.

2020 draft:

1- Nfaly Dante-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/nfaly-dante.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

2- Neemias queta-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/neemias-queta.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

3- Ikey Obiagu-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/01/ikey-obiagu.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

And for the 2021 draft:

1- Ibou Dianko Badjee-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/ibou-dianko-badji.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

AND

Watch on YouTube

And last but not least:

2022 draft:

1- Mousse Cisse -
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/moussa-cisse.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

Ultimately, If we can somehow walk away from the next two drafts with one of these listed Big men, ESPECIALLY either Ibou Badjee or Mousse Cisse, Then we'll be set for the foreseeable future and possibly have a potential dynasty for our franchise with our twin towers frontcourt and sharpshooters on the perimeter.

DirtyDez · Post #45 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Dec 4, 2019 7:33 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

A lot of people don’t like Kellan Olson but he was one of the very first people that I follow on Twitter (and I follow a lot of basketball guys) who was on the Luka Doncic bandwagon from way way before the draft even.

Definitely holds some credibility imo.

Quite early for assessments. He's only played one good team so far and didn't play particularly well. 3-11 from the field, 0-3 from 3 with 7 assists.

I think so too. I love Nico and he’ll probably be Miller’s best ever freshman from an impact standpoint but I think being a top-10 prospect is high at this time. I think it probably has as much to do with it being a historically weak looking draft at the top.

The next couple weeks will be big for him.

Post #46 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Dec 4, 2019 8:35 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

A lot of people don’t like Kellan Olson but he was one of the very first people that I follow on Twitter (and I follow a lot of basketball guys) who was on the Luka Doncic bandwagon from way way before the draft even.

Definitely holds some credibility imo.

Quite early for assessments. He's only played one good team so far and didn't play particularly well. 3-11 from the field, 0-3 from 3 with 7 assists.

I think so too. I love Nico and he’ll probably be Miller’s best ever freshman from an impact standpoint but I think being a top-10 prospect is high at this time. I think it probably has as much to do with it being a historically weak looking draft at the top.

The next couple weeks will be big for him.

And it's crazy to compare a college player to Nash after he's played mostly 2nd and 3rd tier teams.

Post #47 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 2:13 pm

Tyrese Halliburton

Read on Twitter

Post #48 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 3:29 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Yeah...lol my bad man, Whenever I think about Tre Jones, I always think about Tyus in terms of his potential. Then get the names mixed up But thank you for the correction. And yes! I definitely like Tre Jones IF he's possibly in our range, outside of the lottery.

I'll have to see these guys more when they face more real competition, but right now I like Halliburton a lot. Then of course you have Mannion and Anthony. Not sure about Tre Jones. I like more size and wasn't great with a team with Barrett, Reddish and Zion on it.

Then you got Killian Hayes....haven't looked too much into him..he's international and #s look better than another int'l guy Theo Maledon.

Ultimately I am not sure we will take a PG though...I think they will want to give Jerome a chance and Okobo develops.

darealjuice · Post #49 » by **darealjuice** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 3:31 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Tyrese Halliburton

Read on Twitter

Really like his game. Gotta wonder what NBA teams will want to do with his jump shot once he's drafted though.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #50 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 3:44 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Yeah...lol my bad man, Whenever I think about Tre Jones, I always think about Tyus in terms of his potential. Then get the names mixed up But thank you for the correction. And yes! I definitely like Tre Jones IF he's possibly in our range, outside of the lottery.

I'll have to see these guys more when they face more real competition, but right now I like Halliburton a lot. Then of course you have Mannion and Anthony. Not sure about Tre Jones. I like more size and wasn't great with a team with Barrett, Reddish and Zion on it.

Then you got Killian Hayes....haven't looked too much into him..he's international and #s look better than another int'l guy Theo Maledon.

Ultimately I am not sure we will take a PG though...I think they will want to give Jerome a chance and Okobo develops.

Definitely agree.

Although I don't mention Mannion or Anthony as I believe that they'll be far outside of our range as I have us projected to be a 7th seed in the playoffs, and an exit in the first round. And us more or less ending up in the 18- 24 range or around there. But I still like Haliburton and remember mentioning him before the last draft ( hoping that he'd enter possibly). I still really like his size and am very impressed by his assist to turnover ratio whilst also shooting over 40% from three. I think IF we were to consider a backup guard in the first round, He'd be a pretty solid get for us in that range.

Also Isiah Joe ( to backup Booker at the 2 with his shooting and defensive potential), And absolutely also Ikey Obiagu, or Neemias Queta for consideration as a backup 5 ( as well as Baynes insurance) easily had with a mid to late 2nd round pick ( purchased). But overall for now, I'm still high on Jerome and think he'll get back up to speed soon, Also been impressed with Okobos' development and better decision making too. So I think we'll be ok for now in that regard.

Post #51 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 3:53 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Yeah...lol my bad man, Whenever I think about Tre Jones, I always think about Tyus in terms of his potential. Then get the names mixed up But thank you for the correction. And yes! I definitely like Tre Jones IF he's possibly in our range, outside of the lottery.

I'll have to see these guys more when they face more real competition, but right now I like Halliburton a lot. Then of course you have Mannion and Anthony. Not sure about Tre Jones. I like more size and wasn't great with a team with Barrett, Reddish and Zion on it.

Then you got Killian Hayes....haven't looked too much into him..he's international and #s look better than another int'l guy Theo Maledon.

Ultimately I am not sure we will take a PG though...I think they will want to give Jerome a chance and Okobo develops.

Definitely agree.

Although I don't mention Mannion or Anthony as I believe that they'll be far outside of our range as I have us projected to be a 7th seed in the playoffs, and an exit in the first round. And us more or less ending up in the 18- 24 range or around there. But I still like Haliburton and remember mentioning him before the last draft ( hoping that he'd enter possibly). I still really like his size and am very impressed by his assist to turnover ratio whilst also shooting over 40% from three. I think IF we were to consider a backup guard in the first round, He'd be a pretty solid get for us in that range.

Also Isiah Joe ( to backup Booker at the 2 with his shooting and defensive potential), And absolutely also Ikey Obiagu, or Neemias Queta for consideration as a backup 5 ( as well as Baynes insurance) easily had with a mid to late 2nd round pick ( purchased). But overall for now, I'm still high on Jerome and think he'll get back up to speed soon, Also been impressed with Okobos' development and better decision making too. So I think we'll be ok for now in that regard.

Yeah, only chance one of Mannion or Anthony are there is if we miss the playoffs and somehow jump top 4. Someone will likely jump. Each of the top 4 only have a little better than 50/50 chance. But we would likely have less than a 3% chance unless we really drop off. West is so tight though.

Wilber85 · Post #52 » by **Wilber85** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 5:36 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:My phone keeps deleting my posts, So I'm not really going to screw around with the details of each prospect. But I'll post then re edit them as I can.

Lok Wur: A 6'8 185 lb. wing with unbelievable athleticism, agility, speed and aggression at such a young age. Someone to definitely keep an eye on as he develops.

Watch on YouTube

Then if Ayton comes back and doesn't manage to develop some aggression, rim protection and consistent intensity, We simply move him to power forward position, As he's just so damn similar to LaMarcus Aldridge anyways. They're both big men who have length, athleticism and smooth offensive games, But offer really no real rim protection and dominant post presence defensively. Doing this would allow us to target an actual dominant rim protector, and strong defensive presence in order to cover gor his weaknesses whilst he just focuses on dominating offensively in the paintband drawing defenders to create open perimeter shots.

The following Big man prospects are who I'd specifically target in either the 2020 or 2021 drafts accordingly, Should we move Ayton to the 4.

2020 draft:

1- Nfaly Dante-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/nfaly-dante.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

2- Neemias queta-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/neemias-queta.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

3- Ikey Obiagu-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/01/ikey-obiagu.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

And for the 2021 draft:

1- Ibou Dianko Badjee-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/ibou-dianko-badji.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube
AND

Watch on YouTube

And last but not least:

2022 draft:

1- Mousse Cisse -
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/moussa-cisse.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

Ultimately, If we can somehow walk away from the next two drafts with one of these listed Big men, ESPECIALLY either Ibou Badjee or Mousse Cisse, Then we'll be set for the foreseeable future and possibly have a potential dynasty for our franchise with our twin towers frontcourt and sharpshooters on the perimeter.

You are trying so hard to find the next Giannis lol.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #53 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:25 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:My phone keeps deleting my posts, So I'm not really going to screw around with the details of each prospect. But I'll post then re edit them as I can.

Lok Wur: A 6'8 185 lb. wing with unbelievable athleticism, agility, speed and aggression at such a young age. Someone to definitely keep an eye on as he develops.

Watch on YouTube

Then if Ayton comes back and doesn't manage to develop some aggression, rim protection and consistent intensity, We simply move him to power forward position, As he's just so damn similar to LaMarcus Aldridge anyways. They're both big men who have length, athleticism and smooth offensive games, But offer really no real rim protection and dominant post presence defensively. Doing this would allow us to target an actual dominant rim protector, and strong defensive presence in order to cover gor his weaknesses whilst he just focuses on dominating offensively in the paintband drawing defenders to create open perimeter shots.

The following Big man prospects are who I'd specifically target in either the 2020 or 2021 drafts accordingly, Should we move Ayton to the 4.

2020 draft:

1- Nfaly Dante-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/nfaly-dante.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

2- Neemias queta-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/neemias-queta.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

3- Ikey Obiagu-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/01/ikey-obiagu.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

And for the 2021 draft:

1- Ibou Dianko Badjee-
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/ibou-dianko-badji.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube
AND

Watch on YouTube

And last but not least:

2022 draft:

1- Mousse Cisse -
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/moussa-cisse.html?m=1 .

Watch on YouTube

Ultimately, If we can somehow walk away from the next two drafts with one of these listed Big men, ESPECIALLY either Ibou Badjee or Mousse Cisse, Then we'll be set for the foreseeable future and possibly have a potential dynasty for our franchise with our twin towers frontcourt and sharpshooters on the perimeter.

You are trying so hard to find the next Giannis lol.

Lol......Yes, Yes I am! :wink:

But honestly, Who wouldn't want a Giannis on our team next to Ayton if possible. But apart from that, I'd really just hope to find a prospect that could essentially offer a decent to strong level of rim protection, and help to patrol the paint some. I believe that if we vould fix or address that issue, Then we obviously wouldn't be giving up all of those easy points at/near the rim. And if we can fix that, Then perhaps we can stop giving up constant runs to opposing teams and also allowing them to get into rythym so easily. Which in turn should allow us to biuld and actually maintain our leads more often, Ultimately leading to more wins for us.

Finally, it's been stated by players from various teams, That when you have a defensive bigman backing you up in the paint AND holding the rest of the team accountable and leading by example defensively, That strong defense and accountability becomes contagious throughout the team. And we really need to get back to that aspect of our play as well. Baynes is a perfect example of that such effect on our defense and toughness. Now for me, I'm just hoping to find the best possible defensive prospect that we can groom behind him to be his eventual replacement when the time does come. But yes, Also possibly finding the next Giannis, would also kick azz!!!

Post #54 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:31 pm

Curious if anyone takes the time to watch 7 videos of prospects all in one post.

Desertfox · Post #55 » by **Desertfox** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:18 pm

Which prospect looks closest to Brandon Clarke? Cause that's exactly what we need.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #56 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 9:19 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Curious if anyone takes the time to watch 7 videos of prospects all in one post.

I have more time than most I guess being currently disabled, But with respect to convenience, At least anyone who's curious getting closer to the draft won't have to look around much as they're all in one place....lol. :tooth

Also, it's not bad to have a variety of talented prospects for consideration, and for the purpose of comparative analysis....lol. That, And I didn't want to have multiple repeating posts too.

Lastly, I have much respect for many posters on here as I just personally think that this platform has some really keen basketball minds, and I value the feedback that I may get on their perspectives in terms of fit on our team, ad well as their perspectives on potential, talent and skillsets.

Post #57 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 9:31 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Curious if anyone takes the time to watch 7 videos of prospects all in one post.

I have more time than most I guess being currently disabled, But with respect to convenience, At least anyone who's curious getting closer to the draft won't have to look around much as they're all in one place....lol. Also, it's not bad to have a variety of talented prospects for consideration, and for the purpose of comparative analysis....lol. That, And I didn't want to have multiple repeating posts too.

Lastly, I have much respect for many posters on here as I just personally think that this platform has some really keen basketball minds, and I value the feedback that I may get on their perspectives in terms of fit on our team, ad well as their perspectives on potential, talent and skillsets.

I agree, and I think it's great you provide so much input on draft prospects, but have mentioned, even in PMs that maybe you should focus on one prospect and one video per post every couple of days. When people see a long post with 7 videos, I imagine few, if any, take the time to look at them all.

It's more for your benefit (and others) that more people will read and take in the valuable content you provide.

Wilber85 · Post #58 » by **Wilber85** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 11:41 pm

Desertfox wrote:Which prospect looks closest to Brandon Clarke? Cause that's exactly what we need.

So where would we be right now if we drafted Brandon Clarke?

Ghost of Kleine · Post #59 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:02 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Curious if anyone takes the time to watch 7 videos of prospects all in one post.

I have more time than most I guess being currently disabled, But with respect to convenience, At least anyone who's curious getting closer to the draft won't have to look around much as they're all in one place....lol. Also, it's not bad to have a variety of talented prospects for consideration, and for the purpose of comparative analysis....lol. That, And I didn't want to have multiple repeating posts too.

Lastly, I have much respect for many posters on here as I just personally think that this platform has some really keen basketball minds, and I value the feedback that I may get on their perspectives in terms of fit on our team, ad well as their perspectives on potential, talent and skillsets.

I agree, and I think it's great you provide so much input on draft prospects, but have mentioned, even in PMs that maybe you should focus on one prospect and one video per post every couple of days. When people see a long post with 7 videos, I imagine few, if any, take the time to look at them all.

It's more for your benefit (and others) that more people will read and take in the valuable content you provide.

I agree man. And definitely, There's room for improvement in that regard....lol. But you're of course right. And I'll have to remember and apply your sound advice accordingly. And if by chance you check out any of the prospects listed in your downtime, or whatever, I'd love to hear your thoughts on potential fit with respect to our current roster. As I know that you have a keen eye for possible hidden talent with college prospects.

Post #60 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:06 am

Wilber85 wrote:
Desertfox wrote:Which prospect looks closest to Brandon Clarke? Cause that's exactly what we need.

So where would we be right now if we drafted Brandon Clarke?

Probably 20-2

Who do you prefer of the following prospects?