yoyoboy wrote:Hyperbole much? Toronto was only the 5th ranked defense on the year. The 2015, 2017, and 2018 Warriors, 2007 and 2016 Spurs, 2012 Celtics, 2012 Bulls, 2012 Heat, 2009 Magic, 2008 Celtics, and 2006 Pistons all very arguably had superior defenses.
Im talking during the playoffs , they had 2 DPoys and another fantastic defender on IBaka.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/team-stats?season=2018&category=DEFENSE&group=1&sort=1&time=2&pos=0&team=1&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0In conjunction to the opponents they played and ther games played they had insane defense
No he wasn’t just naturally triple teamed. The Raptors just set up a wall of defenders in the paint because 1) they didn’t trust his passing game enough once he got into the paint to make them pay for that kind of coverage (and it worked) and 2) they were fine backing off him and letting him shoot from the perimeter where he would get guarded by basically nobody. That defensive scheme was just as much about exploiting Giannis’ weaknesses as it was trying to combat his strengths.
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What does this even mean naturally triple teamed, he was triple and quadruple teamed in the area where he is doing damage the most and it was in the paint, why would anyone triple team a guy outside. They waited for him to drive and close his options at the paint and closed into him.
He was guarded by Kawhi in perimeter in fact Giannis was one of the best shooters of the team from 3 point line in the series.
22.7 ppg on 51.8% TS is pretty crap scoring. That’s over 4% below league average efficiency. It’s especially bad when you consider the fact he was an MVP who averaged 5 more ppg on 12.6% higher scoring efficiency during the regular season in 6 less minutes per game.
His TS% was low due to his Fts and not general scoring, he was guarded heavily while the team shot 28% from the floor and gave him no spacing
5.5 apg would be nice...until you consider the fact that it came alongside 4.2 topg. That’s very inefficient passing. So it’s fair to say his playmaking deficiencies were definitely taken advantage of by Toronto and he didn’t put on a passing display reminiscent of “Magic Johnson” as your username compares him to. For reference, his supporting cast posted 18.7 apg to 8.0 topg for the series.
Again context, he had so many turnovers because our main PG disappeared ( bledsoe) brogdon isnt good at it and our only backup is Hill. Giannis was literally trying to do everything on both ends. Bucks had no second option to help Giannis in that department.
Sure he rebounded well and played good defense against Siakam but it’s not like Siakam was exactly the scoring threat he’s developed into this year. Furthermore, he probably should’ve taken up the assignment of trying to guard Kawhi at some point - the dude who burned them for 30 ppg on 57.4% TS in the series.
Have you even watched the series? Again, Raptors had multiple scoring options during the series, Giannis did switch into Kawhi at some point and Raptors changed their plan to abuse our slower defense in the paint or use their guards to destroy us form the perimeter with their shooting, especially with Van Vleet.
Also Siakam was far more efficient than this year and had much lower volume compared to this year and it is explained because Kawhi left but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good then during playoffs as he is now, Giannis always plays great defense vs him as we saw this years game as well.
Draymond, Embiid, Horford, and Tucker were clearly better.
No nt even close, Daymond was terrible , Horford got destroyed by Giannis, Tucker

and Embiid wasnt remotely as good.
Nothing’s been debunked. Giannis was awful in that a series against Toronto by MVP standards. If you can’t admit that, then you really hurt your credibility as someone who can look at things objectively and make an honest and logical argument rather than giving unwavering love and support to the guy you stan.
No he wasn't, the only awful was his FTs but if you actually watched the series and how terribly Bucks were playing you would know that there is no way Bucks couldve won those series, he whad our shooters terribly shooting,Bledsoe disappearing,Mirotic non excistent and so on.
Giannis alone had 31 potential assists from wide open 3s alone..
So yeah, you're promoting a false narrative that not only diminishes how good the Raptors were especially on defense which every analytics talked about ( weirdly you're the only missing that) but you also promote that Giannis played awful when he didnt under the circumstances and then you talk about objectivity....
I mean the fact you think Draymond and Horford and Tucker were good defenders during playoffs proves my point exactly.Just by looking at their defensive metrics a lot and their DTRG they were HORRIBLE to say at least.