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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1261 » by blazza18 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:36 pm

crkone wrote:I'm not sure what role he would fill to be honest. Korver's minutes?


If he's got anything left he'd take minutes from anyone.
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Post#1262 » by emunney » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:59 pm

Can't see Andre coming back north if he can help it. When he left the midwest it was for good.
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Post#1263 » by Bucksfan28 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:01 pm

emunney wrote:Can't see Andre coming back north if he can help it. When he left the midwest it was for good.


Yep, dude's in the SV finale, he's a lifetime (west) coastie now.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1264 » by Chuck Diesel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:05 pm

Mirotic is the better overall player but I think Bertans would be a much better fit in the role Mirotic was in than Niko.
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Post#1266 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:17 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Mirotic is the better overall player but I think Bertans would be a much better fit in the role Mirotic was in than Niko.


Problem with Bertans is he's a career 33% shooter in the playoffs, including 29% from 3. We can't take a chance on a player like that, especially with Bledsoe still on the roster.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1267 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:37 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Some of the lineup data your using for Giannis/Ersan includes Robin Lopez.

Yeah my bad, those 2 minutes really taint the data.

And of course I use Giannis as the barometer. The team is literally built around him.
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Post#1268 » by JayMKE » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:45 pm

Iguodala would be interesting but I'm pretty happy with this roster and don't really want to give guys up or take away young guys time. It was a mistake trading for Mirotic last year, it would have been better to just roll with DJ.
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Post#1269 » by jschligs » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:46 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Mirotic is the better overall player but I think Bertans would be a much better fit in the role Mirotic was in than Niko.


Problem with Bertans is he's a career 33% shooter in the playoffs, including 29% from 3. We can't take a chance on a player like that, especially with Bledsoe still on the roster.


I get where you're coming from but his sample size was not big in the playoffs.

2016-2017 - 13 games - 8/20 - 40%
2017-2018 - 5 games - 3/16 - 19%
2018-2019 - 5 games - 3/11 - 27%

I'm confident in the Bucks offense he would be wide open and would hit 35%+ easy in the playoffs.
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Post#1270 » by drone3 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:50 am

JayMKE wrote:Iguodala would be interesting but I'm pretty happy with this roster and don't really want to give guys up or take away young guys time. It was a mistake trading for Mirotic last year, it would have been better to just roll with DJ.
A mistake in retrospect, we were all pumped for that trade. Niko could have been the piece that put us ahead, his shot just wasn't falling.
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Post#1271 » by DrWood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:53 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Mirotic is the better overall player but I think Bertans would be a much better fit in the role Mirotic was in than Niko.


Problem with Bertans is he's a career 33% shooter in the playoffs, including 29% from 3. We can't take a chance on a player like that, especially with Bledsoe still on the roster.

Please stop with inferences from small-sample playoff performance.
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Post#1272 » by Balls2TheWalls » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:07 am

I think the biggest problem with Bertans is that he will be one of the most sought after guys to add elite 3 point shooting to a playoff team around the deadline. The Wizards will have their fill of teams trying to add him on that 7M matched contract.
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Post#1273 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:38 am

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Post#1274 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:11 am

drone3 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Iguodala would be interesting but I'm pretty happy with this roster and don't really want to give guys up or take away young guys time. It was a mistake trading for Mirotic last year, it would have been better to just roll with DJ.
A mistake in retrospect, we were all pumped for that trade. Niko could have been the piece that put us ahead, his shot just wasn't falling.


I warned repeatedly that he was a bad fit. He isn't a good defender, and he couldn't attack closeouts. Buds system works when players attack closeouts.
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Post#1275 » by JayMKE » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:36 am

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drone3 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Iguodala would be interesting but I'm pretty happy with this roster and don't really want to give guys up or take away young guys time. It was a mistake trading for Mirotic last year, it would have been better to just roll with DJ.
A mistake in retrospect, we were all pumped for that trade. Niko could have been the piece that put us ahead, his shot just wasn't falling.


I warned repeatedly that he was a bad fit. He isn't a good defender, and he couldn't attack closeouts. Buds system works when players attack closeouts.


I got some heat for it at the time but I just never liked the idea of taking DJ's playing time away right after he started playing well, he's a more than adequate shooter and was clearly a superior defender which is what I felt we needed in the playoffs. Maybe he shoots like crap too but I doubt DJ would have been anywhere near as bad defensively.
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Post#1276 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:59 am

Davonte Graham is going to get a boat load of money from someone if he keeps playing like this, Id give up that Pacers 1st and DJ for him
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Post#1277 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:15 am

At what point do we just trade Giannis for Davis Bertans?
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Post#1278 » by raferfenix » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:48 am

What do we think of Covington?

Hard to make the contracts work like with Redick. But he is on a long term deal, in contrast to Bertrans.

Take the Minnesota Timberwolves, for example. Playoff teams are monitoring the availability of Robert Covington, according to multiple league sources. Covington is one of the league’s better 3-and-D wings and could net a significant return that helps the Wolves build around Karl-Anthony Towns and their young core. You could make a case that Minnesota should keep Covington: He turns 29 in December, he’s on a team-friendly contract worth $11.7 million on average until the summer of 2022, and he’s a versatile defender who hits 3s at a good clip. Then again, because so few impact players are available, putting Covington on the block could generate a bidding war that returns better assets than would normally be available. And such a return could outweigh the risk of keeping him: Covington is a streaky shooter who doesn’t do much off the dribble, and he’s suffered numerous knee injuries, including one that required surgery in April. The Wolves could make a strong case to gamble on a trade package featuring worthwhile younger pieces to maximize the Towns era, rather than hold on to Covington.

The Houston Rockets have serious interest in Covington, league sources say. The Rockets are in the market for wings; with James Harden having another MVP-caliber season, they’re a team that should go all in no matter who the target is. They have the ammo to do so: Despite the pile of picks it sent Oklahoma City in the Chris Paul–for–Russell Westbrook blockbuster, Houston can still dangle its first-round picks in 2020 and 2022.


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Post#1279 » by old skool » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:52 am

The one role player that I think the Bucks need to keep is Ilyasova. If either Lopez brother goes down, Ersan is the only other big that can come close to banging with an Embiid or Horford or Gasol or Ibaka. Wilson is too light, Bender is unproven and Giannis doesn't need the extra exhaustion.

I hear multiple proposals to include Ersan in a trade for a wing, but unless there is a way to add a capable defensive big, I would keep him.

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Post#1280 » by emunney » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:53 am

Longtime fan of Covington but that dude is not what he used to be defensively. I still think the Wolves should trade KAT.
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