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Ian Kennedy called up 

Post#1 » by cmaff051 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:52 am

will start Saturday in place of Mussina.

this is according to ESPN.

no news on what happens to Moose, I assume he'll go on the DL.
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Post#2 » by Pharmcat » Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:56 am

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Post#3 » by ijag23 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:00 am

Nice. I have not seen Kennedy pitch before, should be interesting. He can't be any worse than Mussina has been lately.
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Post#4 » by nykgeneralmanager » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:02 am

They (minus Alan Horne) have all arrived. :clap:
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Post#5 » by cmaff051 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:03 am

nykgeneralmanager wrote:They (minus Alan Horne) have all arrived. :clap:


:cry: :cry: Brings a tear to my eye. Our youngins are growing up!!! :) :D
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Post#6 » by nykgeneralmanager » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:04 am

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:cry: :cry: Brings a tear to my eye. Our youngins are growing up!!! :) :D

It's funny because for just about every other single major league team, when their top 3 pitching prospects reach the majors they look around and say "Damn, now there is nobody to follow in the minors." But with us, there are another 10-15 legit pitching prospects to turn our attention to. Maybe not ace caliber pitchers like Hughes or Joba, but certainly future major leaguers comparable to Kennedy.
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Post#7 » by Pharmcat » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:13 am

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It's funny because for just about every other single major league team, when their top 3 pitching prospects reach the majors they look around and say "Damn, now there is nobody to follow in the minors." But with us, there are another 10-15 legit pitching prospects to turn our attention to. Maybe not ace caliber pitchers like Hughes or Joba, but certainly future major leaguers comparable to Kennedy.


who are the 10?

Humberto Sanchez
Christian Garcia
Mark Melancon
Andrew Brackman
cox
betances
horne
who else do you like? are guys like ohlendorf in that list?
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Post#8 » by cmaff051 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:24 am

The funny thing about this move is that I think that Ian Kennedy is pretty much the closest thing you'll find to a young Mike Mussina. It's quite odd, really. I've watched Kennedy many times and each and every time he reminds me of Moose. He doesn't have the blazing fastball Mike had in his Oriole days, but he has everything else. It's ironic that he is taking Moose's place in the rotation, even if it's temporary.
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Post#9 » by nykgeneralmanager » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:30 am

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who are the 10?

Humberto Sanchez
Christian Garcia
Mark Melancon
Andrew Brackman
cox
betances

who else do you like? are guys like ohlendorf in that list?

For the sake of conversation, I'll consider Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy major leaguers. In terms of just pitching prospects, I'd probably rank them the following:

1. Alan Horne
2. Delin Betances
3. Humberto Sanchez
4. Christian Garcia
5. Andrew Brackman
6. Ross Ohlendorf
7. Mark Melancon (can't wait until he gets back, he can climb this list very quickly)
8. Tyler Clippard
9. Danial McCutchen
10. Zach McAllister

I didn't even count guys like Marquez, Cox, Nova, etc.
From the draft class, Ryan Pope has been REALLY impressive. He was under the radar because he was a late bloomer from a low key school, but still managed to be a high draft pick which shows how good he is. I really like him a lot.

And one of the most intriguing prospects in our entire system to me is Jairo Heredia. There just aren't 17 year olds that can do what he has. If he continues to impress once he reaches long season ball, people around baseball will take notice of him VERY quickly. He can be our next "ace" prospect other than Betances.
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Post#10 » by Pharmcat » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:47 am

^^thanks

it looks like pitching wise the future looks good
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Post#11 » by moocow007 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:55 am

Here's what Kennedy's down this season (pretty good):

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Post#12 » by DakkaFromNyc » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:07 am

ijag23 wrote:Nice. I have not seen Kennedy pitch before, should be interesting. He can't be any worse than Mussina has been lately.


http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_wiret ... _saturday/

Looks like its gonna happen!
Lets c how this kid does

All those players that u guys mention in the minor league, our future in the organization is lookin so bright for us that i think im gonna need 2 put on sum shades.

2 tell u da truth i barely no those players
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Post#13 » by throwbackewing33 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:00 pm

Yea I dont see how he can pitch worse than moose has been. What do you think Moose is going to do over the winter? DO you think he might retire? He is such a perfection artist, he probably is more mad at himself than anyone else.
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Post#14 » by 34Celtic » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:18 pm

I wish you guys would get off the hype around Sanchez and Brackman until they come back and prove they can pitch after the surgery.
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Post#15 » by Pharmcat » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:30 pm

34Celtic wrote:I wish you guys would get off the hype around Sanchez and Brackman until they come back and prove they can pitch after the surgery.


93% sucess rate, i'll take it :D
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Post#16 » by earthmansurfer » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:46 pm

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93% sucess rate, i'll take it :D


Curious, with that 93% success rate, how many of those "successful" ones lost velocity? I heard some gain velocity, but any idea because this might affect certain pitchers more than others ie. Brackman is a velocity guy.
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Post#17 » by cmaff051 » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:44 pm

throwbackewing33 wrote:Yea I dont see how he can pitch worse than moose has been. What do you think Moose is going to do over the winter? DO you think he might retire? He is such a perfection artist, he probably is more mad at himself than anyone else.


Who knows, really. $11.5 guarenteed is a lot of money, even for a guy who has made a ton of it over his career.
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Post#18 » by 34Celtic » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:58 pm

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Curious, with that 93% success rate, how many of those "successful" ones lost velocity? I heard some gain velocity, but any idea because this might affect certain pitchers more than others ie. Brackman is a velocity guy.


There are some that do end up better, true. There are also some that can't find it again. That being said, these guys were prospects and we never knew how they would pan out in the beginning. At least let them prove themselves at AAA before you call them Major League Pitchers.
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Post#19 » by nykgeneralmanager » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:19 pm

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There are some that do end up better, true. There are also some that can't find it again. That being said, these guys were prospects and we never knew how they would pan out in the beginning. At least let them prove themselves at AAA before you call them Major League Pitchers.

That is the whole basis of a PROSPECT. You don't wait until they are in the majors to talk about whether or not they can make an impact on this level. We are supposed to sit here and discuss their ceiling and their potential, that is the whole reason we pay them ridiculous signing bonuses and such. Brackman was signed knowing he needed the surgery, and that can work out. The Orioles draft Bedard knowing he needed TJ Surgery, how is that working?
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Post#20 » by Yankee » Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:39 pm

I am going to saturday game. I am happy to see anybody that not name mussina
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