2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[Revived]

I’d give Jerome more time (not necessarily more minutes). Coaching staff loved Jerome over the summer.. let’s give him some time to get back into sync.

Yeah, I agree, but I'd still give Okobo some minutes too...maybe split duties a bit for backup, or alternate on b2bs.

I was hoping Okobo would show something yesterday during the last minute and half of garbage when he played. But he went on to get fouled and miss both FTs.

I agree, I would like to see him get some playing time in the rotation.

[Dual]

I really dont know where to put a team oriented article about the Suns, so I put it here.
To me, the best article of the season so far:
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2019/12/6/20993164/thoughts-on-the-first-1-4-of-the-season

[BobbieL]

What about this?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=r96arx7
Or this?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vtuvus3

Fill with rounds.

Just say no to Schroeder, guy's dumb.

The insane hatred Schroeders game would bring out on this board is almost worth trading for him just for entertainment purposes.

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Portis seems redundant with Saric

Schroeder - no thank you

[Fo-Real]

Would Marvin Williams make sense?

[Saberestar]

Would Marvin Williams make sense?

I like him. Shams said in his last article that teams are asking about him to the Hornets.

He has a trade market because he is an expiring ($15M) that can actually contribute to winning as a backup PF. He is solid...but not starter material anymore.

I think that we are set at PF/C with Ayton coming back, so I think Marvin would not get enough playing time.

Ayton/Saric/Baynes are obviously better than him and Kaminsky/Diallo are OK to play small roles, they know the system already and you know that chemistry is important.

Marvin just would be an insurance for injuries and stuff, but not much more than that.

[Fo-Real]

Would Marvin Williams make sense?

I like him. Shams said in his last article that teams are asking about him to the Hornets.

He has a trade market because he is an expiring ($15M) that can actually contribute to winning as a backup PF. He is solid...but not starter material anymore.

I think that we are set at PF/C with Ayton coming back, so I think Marvin would not get enough playing time.

Ayton/Saric/Baynes are obviously better than him and Kaminsky/Diallo are OK to play small roles, they know the system already and you know that chemistry is important.

Marvin just would be an insurance for injuries and stuff, but not much more than that.

Just trying to come up with something that makes sense as far as trading Tyler Johnson's contract. Is it better to have TJ on the bench as insurance or a big like Marvin? He would be redundant with shooting bigs we have in guys like Kaminsky and Cam at pf but he is a scorer and knock down shooter. No other small moves make sense, only a big one like Love.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Would Marvin Williams make sense?

I like him. Shams said in his last article that teams are asking about him to the Hornets.

He has a trade market because he is an expiring ($15M) that can actually contribute to winning as a backup PF. He is solid...but not starter material anymore.

I think that we are set at PF/C with Ayton coming back, so I think Marvin would not get enough playing time.

Ayton/Saric/Baynes are obviously better than him and Kaminsky/Diallo are OK to play small roles, they know the system already and you know that chemistry is important.

Marvin just would be an insurance for injuries and stuff, but not much more than that.

Just trying to come up with something that makes sense as far as trading Tyler Johnson's contract. Is it better to have TJ on the bench as insurance or a big like Marvin? He would be redundant with shooting bigs we have in guys like Kaminsky and Cam at pf but he is a scorer and knock down shooter. No other small moves make sense, only a big one like Love.

This doesn't make this thread fun but unless some great deal falls from the sky best course is to wait until the deadline and assess at that point.

An injury could hit and change needs quickly. Plus two months from now they will have a much better idea of if they are really a playoff team and it also gives them a chance to see what this team looks like with Ayton.

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[Saberestar]

I like him. Shams said in his last article that teams are asking about him to the Hornets.

He has a trade market because he is an expiring ($15M) that can actually contribute to winning as a backup PF. He is solid...but not starter material anymore.

I think that we are set at PF/C with Ayton coming back, so I think Marvin would not get enough playing time.

Ayton/Saric/Baynes are obviously better than him and Kaminsky/Diallo are OK to play small roles, they know the system already and you know that chemistry is important.

Marvin just would be an insurance for injuries and stuff, but not much more than that.

Just trying to come up with something that makes sense as far as trading Tyler Johnson's contract. Is it better to have TJ on the bench as insurance or a big like Marvin? He would be redundant with shooting bigs we have in guys like Kaminsky and Cam at pf but he is a scorer and knock down shooter. No other small moves make sense, only a big one like Love.

This doesn't make this thread fun but unless some great deal falls from the sky best course is to wait until the deadline and assess at that point.

An injury could hit and change needs quickly. Plus two months from now they will have a much better idea of if they are really a playoff team and it also gives them a chance to see what this team looks like with Ayton.

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This is absolutely the truth. We need to stay pat and see how our team works with Ayton.

And the risk of a big injury it's always there. Tyler's expiring and some pick can get you a decent replacement for any injured player on our roster.

[Saberestar]

Would Marvin Williams make sense?

I like him. Shams said in his last article that teams are asking about him to the Hornets.

He has a trade market because he is an expiring ($15M) that can actually contribute to winning as a backup PF. He is solid...but not starter material anymore.

I think that we are set at PF/C with Ayton coming back, so I think Marvin would not get enough playing time.

Ayton/Saric/Baynes are obviously better than him and Kaminsky/Diallo are OK to play small roles, they know the system already and you know that chemistry is important.

Marvin just would be an insurance for injuries and stuff, but not much more than that.

Just trying to come up with something that makes sense as far as trading Tyler Johnson's contract. Is it better to have TJ on the bench as insurance or a big like Marvin? He would be redundant with shooting bigs we have in guys like Kaminsky and Cam at pf but he is a scorer and knock down shooter. No other small moves make sense, only a big one like Love.

I would prefer to trade for Marvin Williams rather than for Kevin Love. In his last game the Cavs lost badly again and he was 3/12 from the field.

[LesGrossman]

Love doesnt play defense. He is a guy who specialized in chasing empty stats in Minnesota and it earned him a ring.

Towns does not play defense, acts entitled and is a huge crybaby and locker room cancer. Best to stay away from both. Fools gold.

[Blonde]

Towns does not play defense, acts entitled and is a huge crybaby and locker room cancer. Best to stay away from both. Fools gold.

Sounds like Gambo’s scouting report on Doncic. I’ll happily take the 24 year old all nba superstar and so would 30 NBA GMs. Not that the Wolves would be stupid enough to trade him to us...

[m1chal]

What about this?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=r96arx7
Or this?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vtuvus3

Fill with rounds.

Just say no to Schroeder, guy's dumb.

The insane hatred Schroeders game would bring out on this board is almost worth trading for him just for entertainment purposes.

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This is not "insane hatred", just my personal opinion. To me Schroeder's bball IQ is on par with Josh Jackson, Michael Beasley and Shannon Brown. I remember watching his play a couple of seasons ago: at the very end of regulation, with his team 3 points down Schroeder went for a layup. I don't want such PGs on the Suns.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Just say no to Schroeder, guy's dumb.

The insane hatred Schroeders game would bring out on this board is almost worth trading for him just for entertainment purposes.

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This is not "insane hatred", just my personal opinion. To me Schroeder's bball IQ is on par with Josh Jackson, Michael Beasley and Shannon Brown. I remember watching his play a couple of seasons ago: at the very end of regulation, with his team 3 points down Schroeder went for a layup. I don't want such PGs on the Suns.

Oh dude I'm right there with you on him being a stay away.

I was just making a joke about how much everyone here would hate him very quickly and the comedy factor of seeing the board melt down when he shoots a contested 3 with 20 seconds left on the shot clock.

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[Revived]

Towns does not play defense, acts entitled and is a huge crybaby and locker room cancer. Best to stay away from both. Fools gold.

Sounds like Gambo’s scouting report on Doncic. I’ll happily take the 24 year old all nba superstar and so would 30 NBA GMs. Not that the Wolves would be stupid enough to trade him to us...

“Locker room cancer” lmao

[El Hespiritu]

I bring a revolutionary strategical trade plan in three steps for this and next season:


Step 1)

Extend at least one year more everybody extendable in the roster. Depending on the case by paying a bunch more of money, the same or even significantly less (put name by yourselves to each case).


Step 2)

If you succed at step 1), bring no one along the nex two FA.
(If you can't deal some of the extensions at a fair prize, bring someone fit to fill the void).


Step 3)

Deal all of our next Draft picks in exchange for unprotected first rounds two or more years ahead.





In summary: Stick this team together whenever possible to bet for chemistry, growing together and focusing on your younglings development in a stable environment.


Yeah, I know it won't happen.

That's why I call it revolutionary ,

[bwgood77]

I bring a revolutionary strategical trade plan in three steps for this and next season:


Step 1)

Extend at least one year more everybody extendable in the roster. Depending on the case by paying a bunch more of money, the same or even significantly less (put name by yourselves to each case).


Step 2)

If you succed at step 1), bring no one along the nex two FA.
(If you can't deal some of the extensions at a fair prize, bring someone fit to fill the void).


Step 3)

Deal all of our next Draft picks in exchange for unprotected first rounds two or more years ahead.





In summary: Stick this team together whenever possible to bet for chemistry, growing together and focusing on your younglings development in a stable environment.


Yeah, I know it won't happen.

That's why I call it revolutionary ,

They will probably have like the 12th-17th pick or so and take Paul Reed, out of Depaul, who is the only guy on tankathon's big board who is a junior (no seniors) and is 26th on their big board and 25th on their mock draft.

However, he has a lot of strengths and few weaknesses, and with a few years experience, probably more ready to play. Seems kind of like the guy they are looking for. Great defender, great at blocking shots, hits the 3 at 33%.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/paul-reed

[Qwigglez]

Trade deadline deal

Suns trade:
Tyler Johnson
Frank Kaminsky
Jevon Carter
2020 1st round pick

Spurs trade:
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marco Belinelli

This should occur if we are several games above .500. We should be making the playoffs as long as we have no injuries, but we want to make sure we are a playoff team, and potentially more. Two savvy veterans where Marco expires this summer and Aldridge expires next year. I think LMA could teach a lot to Ayton, and I think Beli could teach a lot to our young guys too. These are the kind of players I could see James Jones going after, both aren't fancy names but they are quality veterans. We trade our pick, but it should be in the low 20's.

Love's contract is definitely a turn-off when it comes to his injury concern. I'm not certain I make a trade for him unless we feel we aren't going to do anything this summer or the next. Griffin cost too much, and has the same injury concern. If Serge Ibaka became available for some reason I'd go after him before the deadline.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I bring a revolutionary strategical trade plan in three steps for this and next season:


Step 1)

Extend at least one year more everybody extendable in the roster. Depending on the case by paying a bunch more of money, the same or even significantly less (put name by yourselves to each case).


Step 2)

If you succed at step 1), bring no one along the nex two FA.
(If you can't deal some of the extensions at a fair prize, bring someone fit to fill the void).


Step 3)

Deal all of our next Draft picks in exchange for unprotected first rounds two or more years ahead.





In summary: Stick this team together whenever possible to bet for chemistry, growing together and focusing on your younglings development in a stable environment.


Yeah, I know it won't happen.

That's why I call it revolutionary ,

They will probably have like the 12th-17th pick or so and take Paul Reed, out of Depaul, who is the only guy on tankathon's big board who is a junior (no seniors) and is 26th on their big board and 25th on their mock draft.

However, he has a lot of strengths and few weaknesses, and with a few years experience, probably more ready to play. Seems kind of like the guy they are looking for. Great defender, great at blocking shots, hits the 3 at 33%.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/paul-reed

Once again with a very nice find from Bgood. He definitely looks very promising and solid overall. I really like his fluidity,
speed, explosiveness and good overall fundamentals.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/paul-reed-5.html

Watch on YouTube

Now IF we don't somehow falter and are out of the range of Okungwu, or Stewart near the 10-14 range of the lottery, Then we should absolutely strongly consider him for our selection in the mid to late teens. Reed or Sylla definitely depending upon who's there. Good find Bgood.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Trade deadline deal

Suns trade:
Tyler Johnson
Frank Kaminsky
Jevon Carter
2020 1st round pick

Spurs trade:
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marco Belinelli

This should occur if we are several games above .500. We should be making the playoffs as long as we have no injuries, but we want to make sure we are a playoff team, and potentially more. Two savvy veterans where Marco expires this summer and Aldridge expires next year. I think LMA could teach a lot to Ayton, and I think Beli could teach a lot to our young guys too. These are the kind of players I could see James Jones going after, both aren't fancy names but they are quality veterans. We trade our pick, but it should be in the low 20's.

Love's contract is definitely a turn-off when it comes to his injury concern. I'm not certain I make a trade for him unless we feel we aren't going to do anything this summer or the next. Griffin cost too much, and has the same injury concern. If Serge Ibaka became available for some reason I'd go after him before the deadline.

Add lottery protection maybe say top 12 to the pick or make it a future lottery protected first, And I can definitely be on board with the trade. Would be pretty solid.

[bwgood77]

Trade deadline deal

Suns trade:
Tyler Johnson
Frank Kaminsky
Jevon Carter
2020 1st round pick

Spurs trade:
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marco Belinelli

This should occur if we are several games above .500. We should be making the playoffs as long as we have no injuries, but we want to make sure we are a playoff team, and potentially more. Two savvy veterans where Marco expires this summer and Aldridge expires next year. I think LMA could teach a lot to Ayton, and I think Beli could teach a lot to our young guys too. These are the kind of players I could see James Jones going after, both aren't fancy names but they are quality veterans. We trade our pick, but it should be in the low 20's.

Love's contract is definitely a turn-off when it comes to his injury concern. I'm not certain I make a trade for him unless we feel we aren't going to do anything this summer or the next. Griffin cost too much, and has the same injury concern. If Serge Ibaka became available for some reason I'd go after him before the deadline.

I think they really are high on Saric so I don't really expect any deal. Maybe Tyler Johnson gets thrown into a deal but I am not sure they would want to take on big salary. I guess they could do something like this IF they discuss with Saric's agent what kind of RFA deal he will be looking for and it is really high, though with matching rights and the fact I don't know that many teams have cap space and will pay him a lot, I kind of still doubt they would want to let him go or make him a backup.