Wiggins: "There's not 100 players better than me"

[Jedzz]

Would also be funny that we drafted a tall SG/SF to attempt to mold into a PG when we already had exactly that in Wiggins.

I don't think the team ever said that they were trying to mold Culver into a PG.

No? Well then maybe it was just the usual suspects here only saying it. Who were they again? I think it all started right around draft time in the Future of PG Topic, then first page of Culver Topic where all the discussion was about the choice of him over White when they missed on Garland. Though I think the team has already shown what there first plan for him was this season.

So, now that he's not showing an assisting creator machine aptitude from day 1, it's alright to see him as a SG/SF again? That's cool, tear up all the wasted internet paper from this summer.

[Dewey]

Would also be funny that we drafted a tall SG/SF to attempt to mold into a PG when we already had exactly that in Wiggins.

I don't think the team ever said that they were trying to mold Culver into a PG.

No? Well then maybe it was just the usual suspects here only saying it. Who were they again? I think it all started right around draft time in the Future of PG Topic, then first page of Culver Topic where all the discussion was about the choice of him over White when they missed on Garland. Though I think the team has already shown what there first plan for him was this season.

So, now that he's not showing an assisting creator machine aptitude from day 1, it's alright to see him as a SG/SF again? That's cool, tear up all the wasted internet paper from this summer.

Wtf?

[DaKid]

I don't think the team ever said that they were trying to mold Culver into a PG.

No? Well then maybe it was just the usual suspects here only saying it. Who were they again? I think it all started right around draft time in the Future of PG Topic, then first page of Culver Topic where all the discussion was about the choice of him over White when they missed on Garland. Though I think the team has already shown what there first plan for him was this season.

So, now that he's not showing an assisting creator machine aptitude from day 1, it's alright to see him as a SG/SF again? That's cool, tear up all the wasted internet paper from this summer.

Wtf?

Look out, he might put you on ignore as well.

[Jedzz]

I don't think the team ever said that they were trying to mold Culver into a PG.

No? Well then maybe it was just the usual suspects here only saying it. Who were they again? I think it all started right around draft time in the Future of PG Topic, then first page of Culver Topic where all the discussion was about the choice of him over White when they missed on Garland. Though I think the team has already shown what there first plan for him was this season.

So, now that he's not showing an assisting creator machine aptitude from day 1, it's alright to see him as a SG/SF again? That's cool, tear up all the wasted internet paper from this summer.

Wtf?

What don't you undestand exactly, Dewey?

[Varejao17]

Wiggins anyone?

[DaKid]

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2019/11/27/andrew-wiggins-minnesota-timberwolves-revival?__twitter_impression=true

Good read

[Jedzz]

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2019/11/27/andrew-wiggins-minnesota-timberwolves-revival?__twitter_impression=true

Good read

On Monday, there was more. For weeks, the ‘Wolves had noticed a trend: When Wiggins was on the floor as the primary playmaker, the offense thrived.

Awesome. So let's stop trying to find a new PG to play alongside him and focus on getting/playing other Wings that can shoot 3s.

Also in there, that little comparison to Harden's beginnings. The difference being Harden started as a 6th man, and played his way into what he is. He didn't start out as a 35 mpg Starting SF/SG for "development".

So I like that comparison, but to show a difference in how you develop a player.
Harden Starts
Year One - ZERO (22 mpg)
Year Two - 5 (26 mpg)
Year Three- 2 (31 mpg)
Year Four - full time starter (38 mpg)

The Wolves could learn from that while dealing with Culver and other picks.

[Klomp]

Also in there, that little comparison to Harden's beginnings. The difference being Harden started as a 6th man, and played his way into what he is. He didn't start out as a 35 mpg Starting SF/SG for "development".

So I like that comparison, but to show a difference in how you develop a player.
Harden Starts
Year One - ZERO (22 mpg)
Year Two - 5 (26 mpg)
Year Three- 2 (31 mpg)
Year Four - full time starter (38 mpg)

The Wolves could learn from that while dealing with Culver and other picks.

Culver is averaging 23 mpg. Last year, Okogie averaged 23 mpg. You're really complaining that they're playing them one minute per game too many?

[DaKid]

Also in there, that little comparison to Harden's beginnings. The difference being Harden started as a 6th man, and played his way into what he is. He didn't start out as a 35 mpg Starting SF/SG for "development".

So I like that comparison, but to show a difference in how you develop a player.
Harden Starts
Year One - ZERO (22 mpg)
Year Two - 5 (26 mpg)
Year Three- 2 (31 mpg)
Year Four - full time starter (38 mpg)

The Wolves could learn from that while dealing with Culver and other picks.

Culver is averaging 23 mpg. Last year, Okogie averaged 23 mpg. You're really complaining that they're playing them one minute per game too many?

My guess is the complaint about him starting. The difference is that harden had Durant and Westbrook on his team and he doesn't play defense. OKC preferred to start a defensive player that doesn't need the ball in his hands to make a difference. Exactly the reason why I prefer that they don't bring in a guy like dlo

[TheProdigy]

Also in there, that little comparison to Harden's beginnings. The difference being Harden started as a 6th man, and played his way into what he is. He didn't start out as a 35 mpg Starting SF/SG for "development".

So I like that comparison, but to show a difference in how you develop a player.
Harden Starts
Year One - ZERO (22 mpg)
Year Two - 5 (26 mpg)
Year Three- 2 (31 mpg)
Year Four - full time starter (38 mpg)

The Wolves could learn from that while dealing with Culver and other picks.

Culver is averaging 23 mpg. Last year, Okogie averaged 23 mpg. You're really complaining that they're playing them one minute per game too many?

The difference is that Harden was being brought off the bench to play primarily against other bench players. We're throwing Culver into the fire immediately by playing him against starters. I would be fine with that if we were actively tanking, but not when we're in a battle for a playoff spot. It probably wouldn't be a terrible idea to start him off with less minutes and gradually increase as the season progresses.

[Klomp]

We're throwing Culver into the fire immediately by playing him against starters. I would be fine with that if we were actively tanking, but not when we're in a battle for a playoff spot.

We're 4-4 with him in the starting lineup, and most of the starts were out of necessity. But yeah, since we're a playoff contender we really should've been starting Jordan McLaughlin in those games instead.

[TheProdigy]

We're throwing Culver into the fire immediately by playing him against starters. I would be fine with that if we were actively tanking, but not when we're in a battle for a playoff spot.

We're 4-4 with him in the starting lineup, and most of the starts were out of necessity. But yeah, since we're a playoff contender we really should've been starting Jordan McLaughlin in those games instead.

Strawman much? I would have suggested Okogie, KBD, Layman or others starting before McLaughlin.

[KGdaBom]

We're throwing Culver into the fire immediately by playing him against starters. I would be fine with that if we were actively tanking, but not when we're in a battle for a playoff spot.

We're 4-4 with him in the starting lineup, and most of the starts were out of necessity. But yeah, since we're a playoff contender we really should've been starting Jordan McLaughlin in those games instead.

Strawman much? I would have suggested Okogie, KBD, Layman or others starting before McLaughlin.

None of those are ballhandlers. We would be very lacking in ballhandling if Wiggins was the only one.

[Jedzz]

Also in there, that little comparison to Harden's beginnings. The difference being Harden started as a 6th man, and played his way into what he is. He didn't start out as a 35 mpg Starting SF/SG for "development".

So I like that comparison, but to show a difference in how you develop a player.
Harden Starts
Year One - ZERO (22 mpg)
Year Two - 5 (26 mpg)
Year Three- 2 (31 mpg)
Year Four - full time starter (38 mpg)

The Wolves could learn from that while dealing with Culver and other picks.

Culver is averaging 23 mpg. Last year, Okogie averaged 23 mpg. You're really complaining that they're playing them one minute per game too many?

You would love for that to be this simple, and this is how you typically try to wash things away. Being a starter, starting the game, and coming back out with the starters after the half, yeah that's a huge difference than just counting minutes. It means they are getting the meat of their minutes against opponent's starters.

Care to agree yet?

[Jedzz]

We're throwing Culver into the fire immediately by playing him against starters. I would be fine with that if we were actively tanking, but not when we're in a battle for a playoff spot.

We're 4-4 with him in the starting lineup, and most of the starts were out of necessity. But yeah, since we're a playoff contender we really should've been starting Jordan McLaughlin in those games instead.

Strawman much? I would have suggested Okogie, KBD, Layman or others starting before McLaughlin.

Half their quick responses are strawman and other fallacy attempts. A few of these guys love to point out some illegitimate angle or irrelevant point instead of talking honestly. It gets old real fast. Sometimes I would swear we are just talking to AI bots setup with base logical fallacies in their arsenal.

[Klomp]

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I was about to give up on this guy. But he has been playing well, not perfect but well. I like his new playing style a lot.

[DaKid]

Watch on YouTube

I was about to give up on this guy. But he has been playing well, not perfect but well. I like his new playing style a lot.

They need to give him the keys and let towns play off of him. Both will be better because of it

[Jedzz]

We're 4-4 with him in the starting lineup, and most of the starts were out of necessity. But yeah, since we're a playoff contender we really should've been starting Jordan McLaughlin in those games instead.

Strawman much? I would have suggested Okogie, KBD, Layman or others starting before McLaughlin.

None of those are ballhandlers. We would be very lacking in ballhandling if Wiggins was the only one.

Actually think it would be ideal for Wiggins to be the only one or at least on focus.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I don't think he's a full time pg, we just need to find a middle ground.

He doesnt need the ball in his hands all the time, but he does need touches and get some possessions initiating the offense.

We just cant have him being that floor spacer waiting for kick outs.