Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch

[djFan71]

Yah im here too— next years draft is loaded and a ton if teams are going to tank. Would just prefer the asset now.

Honestly, I waffle. 7-10 this year sounds great, and sure, I'd take it, so I get it. But, we have enough really good / all-star level players. We need a superstar. With the smoothed odds, even if they land 10 pre-lotto next year, that's a 16.9% chance at getting top 4 for a shot at one. Ultimately, I'd prefer to roll those dice.

My goal is to trade up for Wiseman. He fits us perfectly.

What do you think we could add to pick 7-10 range to get up to grab him? Mavs paid another top 10 pick to move up from 5 to 3. I'm not sure we have the kind of assets to be able to move up for Wiseman. Does something like 7, Langford, 25, 29 get it done??? I don't think it does.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Honestly, I waffle. 7-10 this year sounds great, and sure, I'd take it, so I get it. But, we have enough really good / all-star level players. We need a superstar. With the smoothed odds, even if they land 10 pre-lotto next year, that's a 16.9% chance at getting top 4 for a shot at one. Ultimately, I'd prefer to roll those dice.

My goal is to trade up for Wiseman. He fits us perfectly.

What do you think we could add to pick 7-10 range to get up to grab him? Mavs paid another top 10 pick to move up from 5 to 3. I'm not sure we have the kind of assets to be able to move up for Wiseman. Does something like 7, Langford, 25, 29 get it done??? I don't think it does.

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

[djFan71]

My goal is to trade up for Wiseman. He fits us perfectly.

What do you think we could add to pick 7-10 range to get up to grab him? Mavs paid another top 10 pick to move up from 5 to 3. I'm not sure we have the kind of assets to be able to move up for Wiseman. Does something like 7, Langford, 25, 29 get it done??? I don't think it does.

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

[SmartWentCrazy]

What do you think we could add to pick 7-10 range to get up to grab him? Mavs paid another top 10 pick to move up from 5 to 3. I'm not sure we have the kind of assets to be able to move up for Wiseman. Does something like 7, Langford, 25, 29 get it done??? I don't think it does.

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

[sully00]

What do you think we could add to pick 7-10 range to get up to grab him? Mavs paid another top 10 pick to move up from 5 to 3. I'm not sure we have the kind of assets to be able to move up for Wiseman. Does something like 7, Langford, 25, 29 get it done??? I don't think it does.

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

Unless Wiseman somehow injures himself he is not going to slide in this draft. I guess a team that doesn't need a big and could fall in love with Anthony Edwards at #1 but seriously. I do think this is going to be an eye of the beholder draft. It is very early in the season but so much value is being put on International guys (as many as 7 in the top 15) and guys who aren't going to play college ball. I think you are going to be able to put yourself in a position to get "your guy" if your wlling to pay the price. Ironically it could be one of those drafts were being at the back end of the 1st round is really attractive as you are picking over more of the proven commodities as well as some of the boom or bust International guys.

[djFan71]

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

All good, I'd just prefer the other gamble - that MEM is more on the ATL trajectory than the SAC one and delivers that unprotected #1 in 2021. But, I'll gladly take either.

[Darth Celtic]

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

All good, I'd just prefer the other gamble - that MEM is more on the ATL trajectory than the SAC one and delivers that unprotected #1 in 2021. But, I'll gladly take either.

I'd still rather bet on the griz being young and not having legit impact free agents sign with them this offseason (not really any to sign) and a gamblers chance at 1 next year and most likely the 9th pick than the 7th pick this year.

[reload141]

This draft is not the same as the 18 draft.

It also depends on how much he falls— my assumption os that Wiseman goes in the 4-6 range behind Edwards, Ball and Anthony. Is Langford and 7 really that much of a stretch to jump up to 5?

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

Obviously with the suspension and my severe lack of time to follow him, what is he projected to be in your eyes?

[baldur]

i think it is either 7th or 8th or next year top 10. whom else would memphis be surpassing next year apart from new orleans, oklahoma and and maybe san antonio? memphis are not gonna make the playoffs next year so next year it is highly likely that it will be a lottery pick.

[Fencer reregistered]

i think it is either 7th or 8th or next year top 10. whom else would memphis be surpassing next year apart from new orleans, oklahoma and and maybe san antonio? memphis are not gonna make the playoffs next year so next year it is highly unlikely that it will be a lottery pick.

I presume that what I highlighted is a typo for the opposite?

[baldur]

i think it is either 7th or 8th or next year top 10. whom else would memphis be surpassing next year apart from new orleans, oklahoma and and maybe san antonio? memphis are not gonna make the playoffs next year so next year it is highly unlikely that it will be a lottery pick.

I presume that what I highlighted is a typo for the opposite?

Yes thanks. I will edit it.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Lot of best case scenarios built into that, but it could happen. Need MEM to get 7, Langford to play and impress, Wiseman to fall to that range, whoever has the pick to like someone at 7 and Langford, not need a big, etc.

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

Obviously with the suspension and my severe lack of time to follow him, what is he projected to be in your eyes?

Elite defensive C with strong rim running. Much better version of Capela.

[Homerclease]

From what I’ve read, this is a draft to trade down in. KOC and a few others have already been advocating for it. Think it’ll present us with an interesting opportunity.

Its a gamble, but I’m willing to throw the dice.

Obviously with the suspension and my severe lack of time to follow him, what is he projected to be in your eyes?

Elite defensive C with strong rim running. Much better version of Capela.

He’s exactly what they need. However I don’t think there’s a chance in hell he falls out of the top 3. Should be the number one overall pick

[SmartWentCrazy]

Obviously with the suspension and my severe lack of time to follow him, what is he projected to be in your eyes?

Elite defensive C with strong rim running. Much better version of Capela.

He’s exactly what they need. However I don’t think there’s a chance in hell he falls out of the top 3. Should be the number one overall pick

Cant see a defense first center going top 3. Edwards will go 1 and the allure of Ball and Anthony will push them to that level too, IMO

[SmartWentCrazy]

Elite defensive C with strong rim running. Much better version of Capela.

He’s exactly what they need. However I don’t think there’s a chance in hell he falls out of the top 3. Should be the number one overall pick

Cant see a defense first center going top 3. Edwards will go 1 and the allure of Ball and Anthony will push them to that level too, IMO

I’m wrong— GS is targeting him and he’ll be gone before we pick.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Prob time to start anticipating this pick converting this year— Morant is a stud.

Gotta start watching film on Obi Toppin.

[Homerclease]

He’s exactly what they need. However I don’t think there’s a chance in hell he falls out of the top 3. Should be the number one overall pick

Cant see a defense first center going top 3. Edwards will go 1 and the allure of Ball and Anthony will push them to that level too, IMO

I’m wrong— GS is targeting him and he’ll be gone before we pick.

Bingo. Only chance is to trade up and jump ahead of them but I don’t think the cost to do it is one that we are willing to pay. Evan Mobley is the guy to look at the following year

[GoGreen]

Don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell we get Wiseman. Gotta look at some other bigs.

[Mtowngrizz]

Bottom of the west isn't very good while Ja is already playing like a vet and he's second behind only Kawhi in 4th quarter scoring. Jaren struggled in the new system the first couple of weeks but since then he's averaging like 20 per game. Our two Canadians Dillion Brooks and Branon Clarke are also playing well while being so young. We are getting good leadership from our vets Kyle Anderson, Jonas Valanciunas, and Jae Crowder. We could easily get that 8th spot if not we will barely miss the playoffs so yall looking at pick 11-14.

[Floody100]

Bottom of the west isn't very good while Ja is already playing like a vet and he's second behind only Kawhi in 4th quarter scoring. Jaren struggled in the new system the first couple of weeks but since then he's averaging like 20 per game. Our two Canadians Dillion Brooks and Branon Clarke are also playing well while being so young. We are getting good leadership from our vets Kyle Anderson, Jonas Valanciunas, and Jae Crowder. We could easily get that 8th spot if not we will barely miss the playoffs so yall looking at pick 11-14.

Oh please you guys aren’t finishing ahead of 12th in the west.
What a really silly thing to say