2020 Draft Thread

[Mylie10]

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This is the only game he's made more than one 3 this season. Based on that shooting motion, I'm not at all sure he's someone that can make a high% on more attempts. He's also a poor ball handler and a marginal finisher in traffic or against legit bigs. He's long but he's skinny and appears to get knocked off balance easily when finishing.

His most NBA ready ability is as a help shot blocker. His length and ball hunting instincts look legit and he has a nose for rebounds and the length the grab them out of his zone.

I disagree with much of what you're saying. I agree he's a great help shot blocker.

His body says he's a small forward and his most ready NBA skill is the ability to defend all over the floor. He's a fantastic finisher. I don't care if he struggles against big bodies because he's going to be a SF or hybrid. I'm not projecting him as a big pal.

His jump shot looks fine. It's not his strength by any means, but it's also not a problem. He kicks his feet towards the basket when he shoots from range. That's actually a good thing and he squares up really well on those shots.

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

[GQ Hot Dog]

This one is a little better. Shows more range from him.

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This is the only game he's made more than one 3 this season. Based on that shooting motion, I'm not at all sure he's someone that can make a high% on more attempts. He's also a poor ball handler and a marginal finisher in traffic or against legit bigs. He's long but he's skinny and appears to get knocked off balance easily when finishing.

His most NBA ready ability is as a help shot blocker. His length and ball hunting instincts look legit and he has a nose for rebounds and the length to grab them out of his zone.

I disagree with much of what you're saying. I agree he's a great help shot blocker.

His body says he's a small forward and his most ready NBA skill is the ability to defend all over the floor. He's a fantastic finisher. I don't care if he struggles against big bodies because he's going to be a SF or hybrid. I'm not projecting him as a big pal.

His jump shot looks fine. It's not his strength by any means, but it's also not a problem. He kicks his feet towards the basket when he shoots from range. That's actually a good thing and he squares up really well on those shots.

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Didn't mean to call your "track record" into question.

He's a dynamic open court finisher, that's obvious from highlight vids, but finishing over and around legit bigs requires core strength that he doesn't yet have and it's only going to get more difficult at the next level. It may be he'll continue to fill out and improve in that regard. But long forwards that are slashers and finishers should ideally be able to finish in traffic among NBA bigs.

His jump shot is odd with how low his release is and I'm not the only one to point that out. It's working on low volume at this level but what about when he's routinely getting closed out by other forwards with similar length? Maybe he can be taught to shoot from above his head?

I'm not hating on anyone, just giving an opinion on his strengths and weaknesses, I'm sure you'd agree he has both..."pal"

[GQ Hot Dog]

I'm intrigued by Obi Toppin of Dayton. He's got a legit NBA body, has both toughness inside and range from 3. Looks like a fiery competitor and leader too.

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[killmongrel]

I'm pretty convinced, if we don't land a chance to get Wiseman or Edwards, we need to see if we can bundle the TPE with the 1st round pick to get a player from another team who can contribute now along with a mid draft pick. There are so many players on the same level of potential or busts that can be had around that area that it doesn't matter. We'd basically be giving away our rights to maybe draft the next DLo, while already having DLo.

[Mylie10]

This is the only game he's made more than one 3 this season. Based on that shooting motion, I'm not at all sure he's someone that can make a high% on more attempts. He's also a poor ball handler and a marginal finisher in traffic or against legit bigs. He's long but he's skinny and appears to get knocked off balance easily when finishing.

His most NBA ready ability is as a help shot blocker. His length and ball hunting instincts look legit and he has a nose for rebounds and the length to grab them out of his zone.

I disagree with much of what you're saying. I agree he's a great help shot blocker.

His body says he's a small forward and his most ready NBA skill is the ability to defend all over the floor. He's a fantastic finisher. I don't care if he struggles against big bodies because he's going to be a SF or hybrid. I'm not projecting him as a big pal.

His jump shot looks fine. It's not his strength by any means, but it's also not a problem. He kicks his feet towards the basket when he shoots from range. That's actually a good thing and he squares up really well on those shots.

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Didn't mean to call your "track record" into question.

He's a dynamic open court finisher, that's obvious from highlight vids, but finishing over and around legit bigs requires core strength that he doesn't yet have and it's only going to get more difficult at the next level. It may be he'll continue to fill out and improve in that regard. But long forwards that are slashers and finishers should ideally be able to finish in traffic among NBA bigs.

His jump shot is odd with how low his release is and I'm not the only one to point that out. It's working on low volume at this level but what about when he's routinely getting closed out by other forwards with similar length? Maybe he can be taught to shoot from above his head?

I'm not hating on anyone, just giving an opinion on his strengths and weaknesses, I'm sure you'd agree he has both..."pal"

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

[BballIntellect]

I disagree with much of what you're saying. I agree he's a great help shot blocker.

His body says he's a small forward and his most ready NBA skill is the ability to defend all over the floor. He's a fantastic finisher. I don't care if he struggles against big bodies because he's going to be a SF or hybrid. I'm not projecting him as a big pal.

His jump shot looks fine. It's not his strength by any means, but it's also not a problem. He kicks his feet towards the basket when he shoots from range. That's actually a good thing and he squares up really well on those shots.

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Didn't mean to call your "track record" into question.

He's a dynamic open court finisher, that's obvious from highlight vids, but finishing over and around legit bigs requires core strength that he doesn't yet have and it's only going to get more difficult at the next level. It may be he'll continue to fill out and improve in that regard. But long forwards that are slashers and finishers should ideally be able to finish in traffic among NBA bigs.

His jump shot is odd with how low his release is and I'm not the only one to point that out. It's working on low volume at this level but what about when he's routinely getting closed out by other forwards with similar length? Maybe he can be taught to shoot from above his head?

I'm not hating on anyone, just giving an opinion on his strengths and weaknesses, I'm sure you'd agree he has both..."pal"

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

I mean it's nice to see you project him at small forward but dude is 6'9" 220 lbs and NBA scouts project him at power forward.

Not to mention Reed will have to significanly improve his shooting mecanics and shoot the three at higher volume if he doesn't want defenses to sag on him like they already do on Draymond.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Didn't mean to call your "track record" into question.

He's a dynamic open court finisher, that's obvious from highlight vids, but finishing over and around legit bigs requires core strength that he doesn't yet have and it's only going to get more difficult at the next level. It may be he'll continue to fill out and improve in that regard. But long forwards that are slashers and finishers should ideally be able to finish in traffic among NBA bigs.

His jump shot is odd with how low his release is and I'm not the only one to point that out. It's working on low volume at this level but what about when he's routinely getting closed out by other forwards with similar length? Maybe he can be taught to shoot from above his head?

I'm not hating on anyone, just giving an opinion on his strengths and weaknesses, I'm sure you'd agree he has both..."pal"

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

I mean it's nice to see you project him at small forward but dude is 6'9" 220 lbs and NBA scouts project him at power forward.

Not to mention Reed will have to significanly improve his shooting mecanics and shoot the three at higher volume if he doesn't want defenses to sag on him like they already do on Draymond.

NTM, Siakam is not a SF. In today's NBA he's a PF and considering he starts alongside OG, FVV and Lowry it's pretty obvious he's a PF. And Siakam's an excellent finisher who finishes with authority over and around bigs and shot-blockers.

[BballIntellect]

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

I mean it's nice to see you project him at small forward but dude is 6'9" 220 lbs and NBA scouts project him at power forward.

Not to mention Reed will have to significanly improve his shooting mecanics and shoot the three at higher volume if he doesn't want defenses to sag on him like they already do on Draymond.

NTM, Siakam is not a SF. In today's NBA he's a PF and considering he starts alongside OG, FVV and Lowry it's pretty obvious he's a PF. And Siakam's an excellent finisher who finishes with authority over and around bigs and shot-blockers.

That's what I'm saying.

[BongBoyKlay]

I disagree with much of what you're saying. I agree he's a great help shot blocker.

His body says he's a small forward and his most ready NBA skill is the ability to defend all over the floor. He's a fantastic finisher. I don't care if he struggles against big bodies because he's going to be a SF or hybrid. I'm not projecting him as a big pal.

His jump shot looks fine. It's not his strength by any means, but it's also not a problem. He kicks his feet towards the basket when he shoots from range. That's actually a good thing and he squares up really well on those shots.

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Didn't mean to call your "track record" into question.

He's a dynamic open court finisher, that's obvious from highlight vids, but finishing over and around legit bigs requires core strength that he doesn't yet have and it's only going to get more difficult at the next level. It may be he'll continue to fill out and improve in that regard. But long forwards that are slashers and finishers should ideally be able to finish in traffic among NBA bigs.

His jump shot is odd with how low his release is and I'm not the only one to point that out. It's working on low volume at this level but what about when he's routinely getting closed out by other forwards with similar length? Maybe he can be taught to shoot from above his head?

I'm not hating on anyone, just giving an opinion on his strengths and weaknesses, I'm sure you'd agree he has both..."pal"

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

At this point, he seems closer to a small ball 5 than a 3 at the next level. His great shot blocking instincts also wouldn't be utilized as much if he spends most of his time on the perimeter instead of closer to the basket guarding bigs. Like I said earlier, if his development on offense progresses like Siakam's did, then sure he can play sf like Siakam sometimes. But, Siakam's improvements have been off the charts so at this points its just wishful thinking to expect him to develop at the same rate.

Reed really hasn't shown much ability to create on offense from the perimeter, so if you're not worried about him struggling to finish against bigs, then you should be really worried about him trying to score against NBA wings.

[Onus]

Reed does seem very intriguing especially defensively. Problem is that this is the type of player Masai drafts ... so we may have to somehow get in front of the raptors in the late 1st

[Mylie10]

I mean it's nice to see you project him at small forward but dude is 6'9" 220 lbs and NBA scouts project him at power forward.

Not to mention Reed will have to significanly improve his shooting mecanics and shoot the three at higher volume if he doesn't want defenses to sag on him like they already do on Draymond.

NTM, Siakam is not a SF. In today's NBA he's a PF and considering he starts alongside OG, FVV and Lowry it's pretty obvious he's a PF. And Siakam's an excellent finisher who finishes with authority over and around bigs and shot-blockers.

That's what I'm saying.

But Siakam plays both positions throughout the game. Depends on if they're playing Gasol Ibaka and Siakam at the same time. But even so Reed is a lengthy defender that guards every position except big centers. He's long athletic and a superior defender. Defense translates I the NBA.

And when talking about finishing against bigger players, you have to acknowledge that Siakam is quite a bit older so of course his body has matured when comparing the 2.

I'm not sure if either of you have actually watched full games, but he controls much of the game when he's in there on defense. Much like Draymond does. But he also has the ability to be a good offensive player as well.

[Mylie10]

Paul Reed and DePaul on FS1 today at 2 pm Pacific standard time.

Those interested should watch the whole game.

[The-Power]

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

You seem awfully and unnecessarily combative today.

But Siakam plays both positions throughout the game. Depends on if they're playing Gasol Ibaka and Siakam at the same time.

These three guys have played at total of 51 minutes together since the beginning of last (!) year, regular season and playoffs. 10 minutes this year. That's 1.5% and 1.3% of Siakam's total minutes played, respectively.

[Mylie10]

He's ready to play right now. But you can hate if you want, my track record speaks for itself.

Lol at core strength. Like you have any clue on a guys core strength.

Anyhow, I suggest you watch a full game of his to see his overall impact.

And again, I'm projecting him as a small forward in the mold of Siakam. So enough with the so called struggle to finish against bigs lol.

You seem awfully and unnecessarily combative today.

But Siakam plays both positions throughout the game. Depends on if they're playing Gasol Ibaka and Siakam at the same time.

These three guys have played at total of 51 minutes together since the beginning of last (!) year, regular season and playoffs. 10 minutes this year. That's 1.5% and 1.3% of Siakam's total minutes played, respectively.

Lol, you're probably right.

I have to point out that when a guy goes to core strength, I know he's full of ess.

And Siakam came in as a SF/PF hybrid. So is Reed in the NBA. Siakam is more mature physically and his game has gone to new levels. I'm not predicting Reed will have a similar offensive transition that Siakam has, one can only hope. However defensively he's every bit there, and possibly better. And his offense is ahead of where Siakam was way back. Against, I'm not saying he's Siakam, but similar type player, and the exact type of long wing we need.

[ILOVEIT]

I'm intrigued by Obi Toppin of Dayton. He's got a legit NBA body, has both toughness inside and range from 3. Looks like a fiery competitor and leader too.

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This guy looks for real. His 3 point shot is an easy effortless shot. He's smooth with a natural game.

IMO the Warriors need to get a athletic scoring SF ASAP to complete the starting lineup. This guy looks like a fit.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I'm intrigued by Obi Toppin of Dayton. He's got a legit NBA body, has both toughness inside and range from 3. Looks like a fiery competitor and leader too.

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This guy looks for real. His 3 point shot is an easy effortless shot. He's smooth with a natural game.

IMO the Warriors need to get a athletic scoring SF ASAP to complete the starting lineup. This guy looks like a fit.

Another guy I'm interested in is Naji Marshall from Xavier. 6'8 220 with a good handle and finishes inside through contact. He can shoot and has an array of ways to score in the midrange. Tenacious defender, uses his quickness on the perimeter and his length inside.

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[Coxy]

I'm intrigued by Obi Toppin of Dayton. He's got a legit NBA body, has both toughness inside and range from 3. Looks like a fiery competitor and leader too.

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This guy looks for real. His 3 point shot is an easy effortless shot. He's smooth with a natural game.

IMO the Warriors need to get a athletic scoring SF ASAP to complete the starting lineup. This guy looks like a fit.

This guy looks good. How smooth and calm is this kids jumper? Looks NBA ready.

[whatisacenter]

Paul Reed and DePaul on FS1 today at 2 pm Pacific standard time.

Those interested should watch the whole game.

I watched him play today and came away thinking he is more of a stretch 4 than a SF. He looked a little stiff at times guarding perimeter players but I still like him. Moore is a good looking PG for DePaul.

[Mylie10]

Paul Reed and DePaul on FS1 today at 2 pm Pacific standard time.

Those interested should watch the whole game.

I watched him play today and came away thinking he is more of a stretch 4 than a SF. He looked a little stiff at times guarding perimeter players but I still like him. Moore is a good looking PG for DePaul.

I didn't see the first half today, but I agree he looked a bit off today. He wasn't all over the floor like normal. I wonder if he's nursing something.

He still came away with 16 points and 12 rebounds on 7-12 shooting, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block. So good numbers even though.

[GswStorm3]

I like these film breakdowns. Get a chance to pick their brain.

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