The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

Revived · Post #1761 » by **Revived** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:15 pm

Brown was recently quoted as saying he wants Ben to start shooting at least 1 three a game.

Ben obviously hasn’t held up that commitment.

cool93 · Post #1762 » by **cool93** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:11 pm

Revived wrote:Brown was recently quoted as saying he wants Ben to start shooting at least 1 three a game.

Ben obviously hasn’t held up that commitment.

Simmons doesn't give a **** about Brown, and Brown just swallows that

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Post #1763 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:33 pm

(Simmons-Horford line-ups are great, Horford not playing affected those line-ups, KOQ is basically Amir)

phillynative · Post #1764 » by **phillynative** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:45 pm

cool93 wrote:
Revived wrote:Brown was recently quoted as saying he wants Ben to start shooting at least 1 three a game.

Ben obviously hasn’t held up that commitment.
Simmons doesn't give a **** about Brown, and Brown just swallows that

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He doesnt like to feel uncomfortable. But thats only way he will grow as a player. He was adament about being the PG before he even played for the team. Brett should of been adament about him shooting the ball from the beggining. Brett dropped the ball there.

Filthadelphia · Post #1765 » by **Filthadelphia** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:52 pm

phillynative wrote:
cool93 wrote:
Revived wrote:Brown was recently quoted as saying he wants Ben to start shooting at least 1 three a game.

Ben obviously hasn’t held up that commitment.
Simmons doesn't give a **** about Brown, and Brown just swallows that

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He doesnt like to feel uncomfortable. But thats only way he will grow as a player. He was adament about being the PG before he even played for the team. Brett should of been adament about him shooting the ball from the beggining. Brett dropped the ball there.

I keep hearing this but can someone find me a quote where Simmons actually demanded to be Point?

He is a point guard and it was a good move by Brown but I just want to know

eyeatoma · Post #1766 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:37 pm

Filthadelphia wrote:
phillynative wrote:
cool93 wrote:Simmons doesn't give a **** about Brown, and Brown just swallows that

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He doesnt like to feel uncomfortable. But thats only way he will grow as a player. He was adament about being the PG before he even played for the team. Brett should of been adament about him shooting the ball from the beggining. Brett dropped the ball there.

I keep hearing this but can someone find me a quote where Simmons actually demanded to be Point?

He is a point guard and it was a good move by Brown but I just want to know

I believe I heard it first year and when Fultz was drafted. I'm an interview he said he's the point guard.

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Post #1767 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:38 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Filthadelphia wrote:
phillynative wrote:
He doesnt like to feel uncomfortable. But thats only way he will grow as a player. He was adament about being the PG before he even played for the team. Brett should of been adament about him shooting the ball from the beggining. Brett dropped the ball there.

I keep hearing this but can someone find me a quote where Simmons actually demanded to be Point?

He is a point guard and it was a good move by Brown but I just want to know
I believe I heard it first year and when Fultz was drafted. I'm an interview he said he's the point guard.

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He tweeted an * and that he was the pg on a Sixers lineup listing Fultz at the position.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1768 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:41 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

I love DLO, but we'd lose out on a lot of small things if we traded Ben for him. The 3-point attempts/shooting are great, but Ben has him beat everywhere else.

Maybe DLO for Tobias? That's also tough given how well Tobias has been playing lately. It's something to consider in the offseason if things don't pan out in the playoffs.

eyeatoma · Post #1769 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:06 am

No one is being traded when we have the 4th best record in the NBA. Maybe we get something on the buyout or maybe a play for Bogdan or Bertans.

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M2J · Post #1770 » by **M2J** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:49 am

eyeatoma wrote:No one is being traded when we have the 4th best record in the NBA. Maybe we get something on the buyout or maybe a play for Bogdan or Bertans.

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Easier to trade him when his contract kicks in too.

When he disappears in the playoffs again because he refuses to even try to shoot the ball when he's made every legit attempt he's taken this year. Trading him will be a legit option.

Though Ben really would look like a super stud surrounded by shooting and the main interior option.

76ciology · Post #1771 » by **76ciology** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:23 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

I love DLO, but we'd lose out on a lot of small things if we traded Ben for him. The 3-point attempts/shooting are great, but Ben has him beat everywhere else.

Maybe DLO for Tobias? That's also tough given how well Tobias has been playing lately. It's something to consider in the offseason if things don't pan out in the playoffs.

If anything, if we go after DLo, the guy to trade is JRich. That way we can have 3 allstar caliber guys with Biid, Tobi and DLo. Ben can then settle to being the connector between these 3 scorers.

Simmons25 · Post #1772 » by **Simmons25** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:14 am

M2J wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:No one is being traded when we have the 4th best record in the NBA. Maybe we get something on the buyout or maybe a play for Bogdan or Bertans.

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Easier to trade him when his contract kicks in too.

When he disappears in the playoffs again because he refuses to even try to shoot the ball when he's made every legit attempt he's taken this year. Trading him will be a legit option.

Though Ben really would look like a super stud surrounded by shooting and the main interior option.

That's what I believe. He won't be traded until we lose a series due to him refusing to shoot from outside.... and if that happens this year then I think the 76ers will be looking in the off-season to trade him.

Post #1773 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:16 am

76ciology wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

I love DLO, but we'd lose out on a lot of small things if we traded Ben for him. The 3-point attempts/shooting are great, but Ben has him beat everywhere else.

Maybe DLO for Tobias? That's also tough given how well Tobias has been playing lately. It's something to consider in the offseason if things don't pan out in the playoffs.

If anything, if we go after DLo, the guy to trade is JRich. That way we can have 3 allstar caliber guys with Biid, Tobi and DLo. Ben can then settle to being the connector between these 3 scorers.

Why downgrade Richardson ?

76ciology · Post #1774 » by **76ciology** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:21 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
76ciology wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
I love DLO, but we'd lose out on a lot of small things if we traded Ben for him. The 3-point attempts/shooting are great, but Ben has him beat everywhere else.

Maybe DLO for Tobias? That's also tough given how well Tobias has been playing lately. It's something to consider in the offseason if things don't pan out in the playoffs.

If anything, if we go after DLo, the guy to trade is JRich. That way we can have 3 allstar caliber guys with Biid, Tobi and DLo. Ben can then settle to being the connector between these 3 scorers.

Why downgrade Richardson ?

Downgrade based on what metric? 2K rating system?

No-Man · Post #1775 » by **No-Man** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:57 pm

With the sheer amount of candidates (East is loaded with guys) if Philadelphia let's say can only get 2 All Stars, who has had the better year and/or is the better player, Simmons or Harris?

It's a tough one

Ukphillyfan76 · Post #1776 » by **Ukphillyfan76** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:58 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

I love DLO, but we'd lose out on a lot of small things if we traded Ben for him. The 3-point attempts/shooting are great, but Ben has him beat everywhere else.
Maybe DLO for Tobias? That's also tough given how well Tobias has been playing lately. It's something to consider in the offseason if things don't pan out in the playoffs.

For me Tobias is the one untouchable player right now!! Been playing so consistently, would be a scandal for him not to make the all star team. Giving up Jrich for Dlo? More scoring from perimeter but very little D. Would Dlo & Ben back court ever work?

Ukphillyfan76 · Post #1777 » by **Ukphillyfan76** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:03 pm

Fischella wrote:With the sheer amount of candidates (East is loaded with guys) if Philadelphia let's say can only get 2 All Stars, who has had the better year and/or is the better player, Simmons or Harris?

It's a tough one

I would hope both make the team, both great players with their respective faults but for me personally Tobias has been far more consistent this season. Deserves the recognition.

Post #1778 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:40 pm

76ciology wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
76ciology wrote:
If anything, if we go after DLo, the guy to trade is JRich. That way we can have 3 allstar caliber guys with Biid, Tobi and DLo. Ben can then settle to being the connector between these 3 scorers.

Why downgrade Richardson ?

Downgrade based on what metric? 2K rating system?

Contribution to winning basketball.

Post #1779 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:48 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
76ciology wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Why downgrade Richardson ?

Downgrade based on what metric? 2K rating system?

Contribution to winning basketball.

Defense is clearly head and shoulders to Richardson.

And when it comes to offense, this season Richardson is the more efficient scorer as well, both by TS%, 3point percentage. And that isn't abnormal. Richardson had a beter TS% las year as well, and on his career (and on his career is a better 3 point shooter).

The category that Russell wins at is using up offensive possessions inefficiently. Which is not winning.

Which you see in composite ratings like RPM:
10 Josh Richardson PHI 19 30.7 0.81 1.74 2.55
71 D'Angelo Russell GS 15 31.2 2.03 -2.72 -0.69

Last year it wasn't so horrific, but even with Russell's awful defense downplayed by rpm, Richardson sill had him:
6 Josh Richardson MIA 73 34.8 1.50 0.35 1.85
9 D'Angelo Russell BKN 81 30.2 2.10 -0.57 1.53

So yeah, by actually real metrics. I cannot answer if it is true in 2K as you clowned.

No-Man · Post #1780 » by **No-Man** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:12 pm

Ukphillyfan76 wrote:
Fischella wrote:With the sheer amount of candidates (East is loaded with guys) if Philadelphia let's say can only get 2 All Stars, who has had the better year and/or is the better player, Simmons or Harris?

It's a tough one

I would hope both make the team, both great players with their respective faults but for me personally Tobias has been far more consistent this season. Deserves the recognition.

I really don't see Philadelphia getting 3 All Stars