Official Liverpool FC Thread

[Cactus Jack]

Welcome to Minamino by the way. I haven't watched him play in the Austrian League, but he deffo looked like a star in the making in the Champions League. Bargain for 7,5m pounds.

Great signing.

[aggerrard]

Well, back to the lackluster performances again. Watford could easily have taking a point today - but it also shows the class in the team. Somehow we tend to play to the level of our opponents - but at the end the results have been the same so far this season, three points (besides utd game ofc).

[HIF]

Well, back to the lackluster performances again. Watford could easily have taking a point today - but it also shows the class in the team. Somehow we tend to play to the level of our opponents - but at the end the results have been the same so far this season, three points (besides utd game ofc).

I thought Watford were at least good for the draw but there is the difference between Liverpool and Leicester - you got all 3 points and we didn't.

[danfantastk32]

Grinding out wins. Two and three years ago, we were grinding out draws. IMO the VVD signing was the difference. Allison came around same time, and he's been pretty huge too...but having a ROCK back on D has turned this team into something special.

There were other things of course. I do think Klopp adjusted a bit. We aren't so tenacious about our pressing the last few seasons, and I think that has saved some players gas.

In any event....it's been working well. This was a huge weekend for Liverpool's title chance. It makes me incredibly nervous to say, and I'm not ready to claim anything yet....but if we keep churning teams like this, nobody will catch us.

[danfantastk32]

The wonderful news is that our next EPL game is in 12 days.

We have a couple dopey games, that I'd REALLY rather not see starters in....and even if Klopp plays most of our starters (I know he's gonna...who am I kidding???) there will be 8 days after that. So some rest here in the midst of this gauntlet.

And that game happens to be a huge one. Followed by 2 more games within a week. Chance to really solidify what most would consider an insurmountable lead. So WHY DON"T WE JUST SKIP THOSE TWO MEANINGLESS GAMES KLOPP?!?!!

[Cactus Jack]

The wonderful news is that our next EPL game is in 12 days.

Boxing Day- Leicester

A Win would go a long way.

[HIF]

The wonderful news is that our next EPL game is in 12 days.

Boxing Day- Leicester

A Win would go a long way.

Well we just got a draw with the second bottom team in the league at home, so I'd say your chances were good. I was hoping for a victory over Norwich with a draw at Man City before beating Liverpool. Now I'm just hoping for a top four finish.

[danfantastk32]

The wonderful news is that our next EPL game is in 12 days.

Boxing Day- Leicester

A Win would go a long way.

Yup....I don't want to jinx it, but a W would be huge. Still would have half a season, and a couple injuries could ruin the whole thing. No getting complacent. But yes....a W really puts us in the drivers seat.

Would still like to see us get a defender this window....just in case =0)

[danfantastk32]

Well we just got a draw with the second bottom team in the league at home, so I'd say your chances were good. I was hoping for a victory over Norwich with a draw at Man City before beating Liverpool. Now I'm just hoping for a top four finish.

Luckily your 10 points above Chelsea, who are not clicking well at all. For what it's worth, you gained a point on them this weekend. The rest of the pack is too far behind to challenge you guys at this point (barring miracles).

Your game today is def a cautionary tale. These teams can give you fits. I wanted Klopp gone a couple seasons back, as I don't think he was taking the bottom half serious, and it would result in 8-9-10 draws a season which just killed us. You gotta take all these games for reals. Things are looking golden for Liverpool right now, but there's still over half the season left. Plenty of time for a couple losses, and a handful of teams to catch you being complacent, and ruining it all. Nevermind injuries.

[danfantastk32]

Good thing the front office doesn't read my posts, and listen to me =0)

As I mentioned....VVD was an absolutely massive signing, and plugged what I thought was our biggest hole perfectly (VVD, Allison, and several guys "grew" into solid defenders) ...but I do think Klopp should get some credit for adjustments as well. Our style is not what it was a couple seasons back. He also takes those bottom teams serious. I remember Klopp making some statement about how "it was just...." insert lower team, a few years ago. If I remember, we drew with them. And if I remember...that was like our 6th or 7th draw that season. I was furious with the guy, and that was probably the point where I truly wanted Klopp GONE. Like outa here.

The last couple seasons have not been that way, and we're doing much better at that. Klopp def deserves credit. I was wrong on him. I didn't think he'd be able to adjust to EPL, and take those lower teams serious.

[aggerrard]

Good thing the front office doesn't read my posts, and listen to me =0)

As I mentioned....VVD was an absolutely massive signing, and plugged what I thought was our biggest hole perfectly (VVD, Allison, and several guys "grew" into solid defenders) ...but I do think Klopp should get some credit for adjustments as well. Our style is not what it was a couple seasons back. He also takes those bottom teams serious. I remember Klopp making some statement about how "it was just...." insert lower team, a few years ago. If I remember, we drew with them. And if I remember...that was like our 6th or 7th draw that season. I was furious with the guy, and that was probably the point where I truly wanted Klopp GONE. Like outa here.

The last couple seasons have not been that way, and we're doing much better at that. Klopp def deserves credit. I was wrong on him. I didn't think he'd be able to adjust to EPL, and take those lower teams serious.

Klopp should get ALL (almost, team behind him aswell) the credit.

If we rate the Klopp signings currently in the club:

Grujic - ? - have to wait and see, extended his contract, seems like Klopp believes in him
Grabara - ? - young
Mané - 10, one of the best players in the world
Matip - 10, free transfer
Wijnaldum - 9, could argue for a 10.
Salah - 10, like Mané. One of the best payers in the word
Robertson - 10, BARGAIN
Ox - 8, could've easily been a 9 or 10 if he didn't get injured
Virgil - 10, best defender in the world
Keita - 5, can't give him higher at the moment. But if he stays fit i could easily see him being a 8-10 at the end of the season
Fabinho - 10, IMO one of the best DMs in the world
Shaqiri - 7, cheap and decent performances. Injuries ruined most of 2019 for him
Alisson - 10, world class
Van den Berg - ?, have to wait and see
Elliott - ?, same ^
Adrian, 8 - decent backup as a free agent

Starting 11 of Klopp signings - let's include Trent, since Klopp moved him up from the youth.

Alisson
Trent - Matip - Virgil - Robbo
Fabinho
Gini - Keita/Ox
Mané - Salah - Shaq/Ox

I mean, the fact he have signed this group of players are insane. And the fact that no one were seen as world class players when they signed. Now it's almost a starting 11 of world domination.

And i gotta say - i know, everyone can say so now, i always supported Klopp. We took a HUGE step in the the first full season, from mediocrity under Rodgers in the end till a 4th place and a Euro League final. Then another 4th place and a Champions League final. Then an unheard of 97 point as a 2nd place in the league last season and a 6th Champions League triumph. And now we have won 25 of the last 26 Premier League games - the greatest streak of all time in the best english league.

If we, no jinx, win this damn Premier League titel after a 30 year drought, Klopp should get a statue next to Shankly - not kidding. Huge respect to the owners aswell, believing in him and wants to evolve the club. Expanding Anfield once and now looking to do it once again, going from just over 45000 to 54000 and hopefully 61000 when they expand Anfield road stand aswell. A new training ground aswell in Kirkby. FSG took over the club on the verge of bankruptcy and have transformed the club along with Rodgers and especially Klopp.

Happy times as a Liverpool fan. Almost tears of joy just thinking about the journey from Hodgson and near bankruptcy till now.

[Cactus Jack]

Good thing the front office doesn't read my posts, and listen to me =0)

As I mentioned....VVD was an absolutely massive signing, and plugged what I thought was our biggest hole perfectly (VVD, Allison, and several guys "grew" into solid defenders) ...but I do think Klopp should get some credit for adjustments as well. Our style is not what it was a couple seasons back. He also takes those bottom teams serious. I remember Klopp making some statement about how "it was just...." insert lower team, a few years ago. If I remember, we drew with them. And if I remember...that was like our 6th or 7th draw that season. I was furious with the guy, and that was probably the point where I truly wanted Klopp GONE. Like outa here.

The last couple seasons have not been that way, and we're doing much better at that. Klopp def deserves credit. I was wrong on him. I didn't think he'd be able to adjust to EPL, and take those lower teams serious.

Klopp should get ALL (almost, team behind him aswell) the credit.

If we rate the Klopp signings currently in the club:

Grujic - ? - have to wait and see, extended his contract, seems like Klopp believes in him
Grabara - ? - young
Mané - 10, one of the best players in the world
Matip - 10, free transfer
Wijnaldum - 9, could argue for a 10.
Salah - 10, like Mané. One of the best payers in the word
Robertson - 10, BARGAIN
Ox - 8, could've easily been a 9 or 10 if he didn't get injured
Virgil - 10, best defender in the world
Keita - 5, can't give him higher at the moment. But if he stays fit i could easily see him being a 8-10 at the end of the season
Fabinho - 10, IMO one of the best DMs in the world
Shaqiri - 7, cheap and decent performances. Injuries ruined most of 2019 for him
Alisson - 10, world class
Van den Berg - ?, have to wait and see
Elliott - ?, same ^
Adrian, 8 - decent backup as a free agent

Starting 11 of Klopp signings - let's include Trent, since Klopp moved him up from the youth.

Alisson
Trent - Matip - Virgil - Robbo
Fabinho
Gini - Keita/Ox
Mané - Salah - Shaq/Ox

I mean, the fact he have signed this group of players are insane. And the fact that no one were seen as world class players when they signed. Now it's almost a starting 11 of world domination.

And i gotta say - i know, everyone can say so now, i always supported Klopp. We took a HUGE step in the the first full season, from mediocrity under Rodgers in the end till a 4th place and a Euro League final. Then another 4th place and a Champions League final. Then an unheard of 97 point as a 2nd place in the league last season and a 6th Champions League triumph. And now we have won 25 of the last 26 Premier League games - the greatest streak of all time in the best english league.

If we, no jinx, win this damn Premier League titel after a 30 year drought, Klopp should get a statue next to Shankly - not kidding. Huge respect to the owners aswell, believing in him and wants to evolve the club. Expanding Anfield once and now looking to do it once again, going from just over 45000 to 54000 and hopefully 61000 when they expand Anfield road stand aswell. A new training ground aswell in Kirkby. FSG took over the club on the verge of bankruptcy and have transformed the club along with Rodgers and especially Klopp.

Happy times as a Liverpool fan. Almost tears of joy just thinking about the journey from Hodgson and near bankruptcy till now.

The only legit knock against klopp was the Karius signing. Which he realized was a failure & addressed it with Alisson.

I think we have to give Michael Edwards a lot of credit as well for the signings.

Brendo would have succeeded here I believe had they adequately replaced Suarez. Our recruitment is obviously night & day different.

[aggerrard]

Good thing the front office doesn't read my posts, and listen to me =0)

As I mentioned....VVD was an absolutely massive signing, and plugged what I thought was our biggest hole perfectly (VVD, Allison, and several guys "grew" into solid defenders) ...but I do think Klopp should get some credit for adjustments as well. Our style is not what it was a couple seasons back. He also takes those bottom teams serious. I remember Klopp making some statement about how "it was just...." insert lower team, a few years ago. If I remember, we drew with them. And if I remember...that was like our 6th or 7th draw that season. I was furious with the guy, and that was probably the point where I truly wanted Klopp GONE. Like outa here.

The last couple seasons have not been that way, and we're doing much better at that. Klopp def deserves credit. I was wrong on him. I didn't think he'd be able to adjust to EPL, and take those lower teams serious.

Klopp should get ALL (almost, team behind him aswell) the credit.

If we rate the Klopp signings currently in the club:

Grujic - ? - have to wait and see, extended his contract, seems like Klopp believes in him
Grabara - ? - young
Mané - 10, one of the best players in the world
Matip - 10, free transfer
Wijnaldum - 9, could argue for a 10.
Salah - 10, like Mané. One of the best payers in the word
Robertson - 10, BARGAIN
Ox - 8, could've easily been a 9 or 10 if he didn't get injured
Virgil - 10, best defender in the world
Keita - 5, can't give him higher at the moment. But if he stays fit i could easily see him being a 8-10 at the end of the season
Fabinho - 10, IMO one of the best DMs in the world
Shaqiri - 7, cheap and decent performances. Injuries ruined most of 2019 for him
Alisson - 10, world class
Van den Berg - ?, have to wait and see
Elliott - ?, same ^
Adrian, 8 - decent backup as a free agent

Starting 11 of Klopp signings - let's include Trent, since Klopp moved him up from the youth.

Alisson
Trent - Matip - Virgil - Robbo
Fabinho
Gini - Keita/Ox
Mané - Salah - Shaq/Ox

I mean, the fact he have signed this group of players are insane. And the fact that no one were seen as world class players when they signed. Now it's almost a starting 11 of world domination.

And i gotta say - i know, everyone can say so now, i always supported Klopp. We took a HUGE step in the the first full season, from mediocrity under Rodgers in the end till a 4th place and a Euro League final. Then another 4th place and a Champions League final. Then an unheard of 97 point as a 2nd place in the league last season and a 6th Champions League triumph. And now we have won 25 of the last 26 Premier League games - the greatest streak of all time in the best english league.

If we, no jinx, win this damn Premier League titel after a 30 year drought, Klopp should get a statue next to Shankly - not kidding. Huge respect to the owners aswell, believing in him and wants to evolve the club. Expanding Anfield once and now looking to do it once again, going from just over 45000 to 54000 and hopefully 61000 when they expand Anfield road stand aswell. A new training ground aswell in Kirkby. FSG took over the club on the verge of bankruptcy and have transformed the club along with Rodgers and especially Klopp.

Happy times as a Liverpool fan. Almost tears of joy just thinking about the journey from Hodgson and near bankruptcy till now.

The only legit knock against klopp was the Karius signing. Which he realized was a failure & addressed it with Alisson.

I think we have to give Michael Edwards a lot of credit as well for the signings.

Brendo would have succeeded here I believe had they adequately replaced Suarez. Our recruitment is obviously night & day different.

Edwards have done an amazing job, no doubt.

I doubt Rodgers could've done the same job as Klopp though - but okay, he didn't have the same saying as Klopp does when it came to signings. And i don't think Rodgers can/could attract the same players as Klopp, and the Rodgers project were running dead since we sold Suarez.

[Cactus Jack]

Edwards have done an amazing job, no doubt.

I doubt Rodgers could've done the same job as Klopp though - but okay, he didn't have the same saying as Klopp does when it came to signings. And i don't think Rodgers can/could attract the same players as Klopp, and the Rodgers project were running dead since we sold Suarez.

I'm not saying Klopp isn't a better manager. Just that Rodgers came close & then everything spiraled out of control. I blame that more on player recruitment & lack of talent.

It took Klopp 2-3 years to bring in the right players & the right squad.

[danfantastk32]

The only legit knock against klopp was the Karius signing. Which he realized was a failure & addressed it with Alisson.

Yeah, thank god he corrected that, cause that was a brutal signing. Getting Alisson was a great recovery. I wonder what he saw in Karius, as his signings are usually A+

My two fave signings are VVD and Mane. Plenty of other good signings....but those are my standouts.

[HIF]

Considering Liverpool's incredible prem record over the last 2 seasons and the fact they won the CL last year, I think it's fair to say Liverpool are the best team in the world at the moment.

[danfantastk32]

Considering Liverpool's incredible prem record over the last 2 seasons and the fact they won the CL last year, I think it's fair to say Liverpool are the best team in the world at the moment.

I haven't really thought about that...but you might be right. I don't pay too much attention to non-EPL stuff. Barca and Real seem like they are both kind of in slumps from former glory (still great...just not their usual powerhouse level). I don't hear much from any German teams this season. It's funny....cause Liverpool just don't seem all that 'great' to me. Couple of real high-level players, and some real solid B+ guys out there. I'd call VVD "world-class" Firmino is more important than he gets credit for, but I'm not sure he's in that "elite" discussion. Maybe Mane?? You could argue both sides of that, I suppose. But when I look back at some of those older squads with Alonzo, Gerrard, Torres, Mascherino, Suarez, etc....this squad seems lackluster. Hardly what you'd think could make a case for being "best in show". Klopp certainly has them running like a precision engine. That helps. It does feel like the usual powerhouse teams are all off their A-game this season. You know....maybe I'm too pessimistic, and hard on my guys?? Could be.

All that's nice...but we need to win the Prem. We haven't done squat till we win that, as far as I'm concerned.

[KG Leonard]

Gerrard was world class, top 5 midfielder in the world in his prime, Suarez, Torres(short peak), Alonso too but that is only 4 world class level and many avreage players around them. Few very good like Mascherano.

This current squad is much higher quality overall they go from Alisson, VVD, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Fabinho who are among the best in the world but then majority of the others are very good, great players who would be stars in other top 4, la liga, seria a teams.

Trent is flawed defending, positional but he and Robertson there are few fullbacks like Alaba that I would rate ahead of them. Players like ,Gomez, Matip, Shaqiri, Ox, Keita, Milner, Henderson, is great for many other teams. Klopp just gave them confidence, great system

Lovren, Lalalana, Origi(uneven but skilled) is the only players who don't have the ability to play for Pool, Barca, Bayern level imo. Milner had that ability when he was younger in City.

Mane, Salah, VVD I would rate in top 10 players in the world right now. VVD top 3 ,Mane top 5 and Allison the best keeper. So this team have more players in close to the level under Messi and many very strong star level players. Ox was getting big before the injury and Keita will be starter soon etc

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[danfantastk32]

Sounds like the kids are gonna represent tmrw. Hope they do well.

The main squad plays Wed.

Hope to see the young guys....haven't really paid much attention to them. We'll see if I get the game.

[aggerrard]

Sounds like the kids are gonna represent tmrw. Hope they do well.

The main squad plays Wed.

Hope to see the young guys....haven't really paid much attention to them. We'll see if I get the game.

Yea, kinda exited for the game today.

Villa is ofc a massive favorite, we're playing the u19 team basically.

I placed a bet on the boys just for fun, 50 Danish kroner, like 8 dollars for them to win 4-2 at odds 100. So i'll get back 5000 Dkk, like 800 dollars if they somehow, highly unlikely, pulls a 4-2 win.