ATL Week 15

[th87]

49ers lose to Falcons. Vikings are the only NFC team with a chance to make the Super Bowl if you follow this board's logic.

Didnt ya know that good NFL teams never lose to bad ones? NFC is just full of frauds left n right

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Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

49ers lose to Falcons. Vikings are the only NFC team with a chance to make the Super Bowl if you follow this board's logic.

Didnt ya know that good NFL teams never lose to bad ones? NFC is just full of frauds left n right

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Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

So if the pack do lose their first playoff game it's not going to prove ****, will just be a loss to a good team.
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[Mags FTW]

Didnt ya know that good NFL teams never lose to bad ones? NFC is just full of frauds left n right

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Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

I wouldn't dismiss the Cowboys. Especially when they get crap talked about them all week leading up to their playoff game.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

I wouldn't dismiss the Cowboys. Especially when they get crap talked about them all week leading up to their playoff game.

Oh yeah they have talent and will be playing a home game. Even with that I think the 5 seed has the best draw of 3-6.

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[RRyder823]

Didnt ya know that good NFL teams never lose to bad ones? NFC is just full of frauds left n right

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Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

So if the pack do lose their first playoff game it's not going to prove ****, will just be a loss to a good team.
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Ding Ding Ding

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[th87]

Hilarious fun now, but we'll see how well this shtick ages in the next few weeks.

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

So if the pack do lose their first playoff game it's not going to prove ****, will just be a loss to a good team.
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Ding Ding Ding

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If they lose with Rodgers ignoring open receivers and taking sacks and/or turtling up the offense too early, that will mean something.

"How" matters.

[WeekapaugGroove]

This year's NFC playoffs is as even and wide open as I ever remember. Other than the cowboys every team that makes will be legitimately good and not a surprise when they win.

So if the pack do lose their first playoff game it's not going to prove ****, will just be a loss to a good team.
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Ding Ding Ding

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If they lose with Rodgers ignoring open receivers and taking sacks and/or turtling up the offense too early, that will mean something.

"How" matters.

So are you suggesting they move on from Rodgers or fire MLF?

Honestly I'm kind of lost on what's even debated at this point. We have 14 weeks of evidence of what this team is, they can look good at times and they can bog down and not look good at others. Nobody thinks this is some juggernaut or the SB favorite but they are 11-3 which puts them right in a group of 5 NFC teams all within a game of each other and all with strengths and weakness, good wins and bad losses. The playoffs should be interesting because the NFC looks pretty level, probably comes down to injuries and matchups. One example of how flat this conference is, if the season ended today the 4-6 seeds would all have a better point differential than 1-3

Also it's fair to say this team has already exceeded preseason expectations.

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[Treebeard]

Also it's fair to say this team has already exceeded preseason expectations.

For all of my bitching about the roster gaps and the inconsistency of play - I absolutely agree with that thought. The Pack is a much more competitive and watchable team than this time in the last couple of years.

[HaroldinGMinor]

At this point, I'm ok with the defense. They are what they are - very good on the edge, up and down in the backfield, meh up the middle (with the exception of Clark who has taken it up a notch the last three weeks or so).

The offense is frustrating because it seems a lot is self-inflicted or just not paying attention to detail. Rodgers and the receivers are not on the same page at least once a game, they burn timeouts trying to get too cute drawing the defense offsides or failing to get organized at the line of scrimmage, they have a bunch of pre-snap penalties (39 that's 7th worst in the NFL), poor clock management, etc. If it was just personnel issues I would just live with it but all the stuff mentioned above is totally correctable and has been going on all season long. That is what frustrates me. I love having 11 wins, a legit shot at the division, and a home playoff game. Totally psyched. But that doesn't mean I can't be frustrated by seeing the same issues week in and week out.

[Turk Nowitzki]

How many chances is this guy going to get?

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[humanrefutation]

How many chances is this guy going to get?

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I feel terrible for Gordon. He must know he isn't going to be back anytime soon, if ever again.

I personally don't care if he gets more chances - he hasn't hurt anyone, nor are his actions a moral failing as much as they are a psychological one (addiction is a bitch), so I don't think there's any reason to deny him an opportunity for gainful employment in the future if he regains sobriety. Teams who want to take that risk should be able to do so. It's a low-risk move for most of them.

[chuckleslove]

It's sad because the addiction issue is one we fail on for everyone as a country. We treat it as a criminal issue, we ostracize people, we shame them.

These people need legit mental help in most issues and we would be better off if we treated it as a medical issue.

I've seen it firsthand with family members addiction is absolutely a bitch and I hope he gets the help he needs.

[th87]

Ding Ding Ding

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If they lose with Rodgers ignoring open receivers and taking sacks and/or turtling up the offense too early, that will mean something.

"How" matters.

So are you suggesting they move on from Rodgers or fire MLF?

Honestly I'm kind of lost on what's even debated at this point. We have 14 weeks of evidence of what this team is, they can look good at times and they can bog down and not look good at others. Nobody thinks this is some juggernaut or the SB favorite but they are 11-3 which puts them right in a group of 5 NFC teams all within a game of each other and all with strengths and weakness, good wins and bad losses. The playoffs should be interesting because the NFC looks pretty level, probably comes down to injuries and matchups. One example of how flat this conference is, if the season ended today the 4-6 seeds would all have a better point differential than 1-3

Also it's fair to say this team has already exceeded preseason expectations.

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I'm saying that it's wrong to sarcastically dismiss legitimate concerns, particularly by attributing strawmen to them. There's a group here that does it every year, and every year it's those exact concerns that end up being our demise. You'd think they'd learn by now. For example, in years past, people would say that TT blew the drafts, and it's necessary to dabble in FA'cy to address a shallow talent pool. The opposing group would dismiss that concern by asserting that all teams have weaknesses (true; but real contenders' weaknesses are not so glaring), and then apply a position that these concerned people want to splurge on Day 1 free agents a'la the Redskins, and then argue against that position (which was never the argument). But lo and behold, the Packers finally decided to take the FA'cy approach that the concerned always wanted, and the results are far superior.

Today, my concern is that this team could be a legitimate contender/favorite/juggernaut, only if someone can figure out what is up with Rodgers mentally. You look at games from 2014, and he's setting his feet, stepping up in the pocket, sliding around and then re-setting in the pocket. Blitzing him was suicide, he'd call the right protections, and he'd anticipate receivers coming open. Now he rarely steps up in the pocket and bails out and rolls out early, holds the ball, takes unnecessary sacks, and often misses optimal timing windows. It's a mystery. Physically, he looks okay (maybe deep and short accuracy isn't what it once was, but still good). If we lose in the playoffs, I predict that this will be what does us in. And then we'll need to discuss whether it's time to find his successor.

[MoMM]

I believe Aaron's problem is that he wants to be the best TD/INT ratio ever, so he is afraid to get intercepted, but QBs should take this kind of risk.

[Kerb Hohl]

It's so beautiful.

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