Mo Bamba & Expectations for Season 2

[Blue_and_Whte]

I remember playing Cleveland and Dwight ran down down as fast as he could, and probably got up 13' to barely get his finger tips to block a Lebron jump shot.

Bamba has more potential to give you a slight edge like that in the playoffs and I think the Magic realize that.

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Howard was propably better player at 17 than Bamba is at 21. Dwight Howard led us to play offs when he was Mo age.
I am sry but comparing Dwight to Mo is really inappriopriate

I'm comparing his freak qualities which is totally appropriate.



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They're completely different players, and its has more to do than physical traits. Dwight had defensive instinct, a motor, he was quick and fast. Mo is literally has none of those qualities. What a terrible comparison. Fraizer has freaking long arms too is he contributing more in the PO's than Fournier.

[pepe1991]

At age of 21, playing his 3rd year, Howard was nba allstar.
Can we never ever compare them again?

[NBlue]

Lets just call it like it is, Mo can be a serviceable big at this point. He still has bad hands. At one point last night JI defended Holiday perfectly all the way to the rim, as the rebound came down right into Mos hands its almost as if he tried to grab it with his wrists. I had to rewind that play 4 times in disbelief. He's super awkward and uncoordinated. Hes probably more of a deterrent than an actual shot blocker at this point, but if he can hit a three, be present, and play active then its a massive step in the right direction from being non existent.

Spot on. I think actually the funny thing is we are actually thinking of who he is all wrong. The comparisons here are to Dwight. He's not Dwight. If you want to give a comparison, its Dirk Nowitski. Now, obviously, Mo ain't Dirk. But in his second hear in the league Dirk shot 37.9% from 3. Mo's percentage so far this year? 38.8 from 3. Better than every Magic player save Evan Fournier (who, I must note, is having a career year).

Yes, on D he is all arms and seems to have no idea what on earth he is doing. But on O he can shoot the damn rock. That seems to be clear. Let's let him do that. We've been crying out for a floor spacer all year and I see no reason why not to allow him to be exactly that. I mean either he is going to show us that he is not really a 39% shooter from 3 or he is gonna really help us on the offensive end. Either way - we will know.

[axl_c_cool]

Everyone knew and knows Mo was going to be a 4 year minimum project so why are we surprised by his growing pains, the key is he's still growing. The coaching staff and Steve Clifford are still happy with him, he is shooting the ball well, he is having better moments and improving. The Vucevic contract seems to show the Magic's opinion on how long it will take to develop him, by the 21-22 season is when he should really start to challenge Vucevic for minutes, he should be physically developed, got up to speed with the NBA game, improved his skill, and have a better understanding.

Patience is the key with Bamba, he isn't Dwight or any other center from the past, he is unique, and it could pay off extremely well and we get an elite center or worst case we get a starting center. Let the kid grow and develop, it's going to take time

[BadMofoPimp]

Everyone knew and knows Mo was going to be a 4 year minimum project so why are we surprised by his growing pains, the key is he's still growing. The coaching staff and Steve Clifford are still happy with him, he is shooting the ball well, he is having better moments and improving. The Vucevic contract seems to show the Magic's opinion on how long it will take to develop him, by the 21-22 season is when he should really start to challenge Vucevic for minutes, he should be physically developed, got up to speed with the NBA game, improved his skill, and have a better understanding.

Patience is the key with Bamba, he isn't Dwight or any other center from the past, he is unique, and it could pay off extremely well and we get an elite center or worst case we get a starting center. Let the kid grow and develop, it's going to take time

I remember Pistons fans here on RealGM circa 2005 saying the exact same thing about Darko . . .

[Optimus_Steel]

I was one of the most vocal critics at the beginning of the season. I thought he looked bad in pretty much every aspect of the game and seemed to lack effort on a nightly basis. Maybe he was playing his way back into form/shape after the injury, but regardless, I’ve been very encouraged by what I’ve seen from him the last 3 weeks or so.

If he can continue this level of play and continue to build off of it the rest of the season we definitely have something here. The biggest positive to me is the clear improvement defensively. He’s still not great, but he is much better this season and isn’t a complete turnstile at the rim. He’s learning to use his length without fouling.

I’m excited to see what he looks like in 40 more games and especially by the start of next season.

I pretty much 2nd this, I was really down on him because let's be honest, he had a terrible start to the year on numerous levels. He has turned it around and been effective last 2-3 weeks. He was effective again in NO despite Vuc returning. Let's hope we get this type of bench production from him forward, at the least he is starting to redeem himself.

[axl_c_cool]

Everyone knew and knows Mo was going to be a 4 year minimum project so why are we surprised by his growing pains, the key is he's still growing. The coaching staff and Steve Clifford are still happy with him, he is shooting the ball well, he is having better moments and improving. The Vucevic contract seems to show the Magic's opinion on how long it will take to develop him, by the 21-22 season is when he should really start to challenge Vucevic for minutes, he should be physically developed, got up to speed with the NBA game, improved his skill, and have a better understanding.

Patience is the key with Bamba, he isn't Dwight or any other center from the past, he is unique, and it could pay off extremely well and we get an elite center or worst case we get a starting center. Let the kid grow and develop, it's going to take time

I remember Pistons fans here on RealGM circa 2005 saying the exact same thing about Darko . . .

Maybe they did, did they know Dario wasn’t taking basketball serious? Since retiring from the NBA Darko has admired he’s the reason he never developed. As always it’s up to the player how much they improve, it’s easy to forget this is the most he’s played, he was out petty much all of last season.

[pepe1991]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He also got drafted by team that won championship during his rookie year.
By the time he got to Orlando he was 8 ppg, 5 rpg , 1,1 apg backup for Howard. Not bad.

Guy was just complete moron off court.

Bamba is literally too long for his own good. Just like Porzingis is too tall for his own health.

He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Despite "positionless" basketball, there still are "perfect" and "less perfect" measurments for players, depending on positions they play. For istance having 6'11 SG isn't really helpful because it's too taxting on his body to chase guards off screens .

[Raider_MXD]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Marjanovic actually is a bad example, he is even taller and has a longer winspan (8’2¼), but he is reasonably coordinated and skilled despite that.

[pepe1991]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Marjanovic actually is a bad example, he is even taller and has a longer winspan (8’2¼), but he is reasonably coordinated and skilled despite that.

Most of his "wingspan" is just giant fist that allows him to palm ball EASLY ,therfore he isn't that sloppy with it. he picks ball like it's tennis ball



i saw him in person, he is sight to be seen.



I mean, Boban suffers from gigantism, his both parents are "normal" size, but there is myth that his great-grandfather was HUGE, matter of fact so huge that he couldn't wear shoes.

[tiderulz]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He also got drafted by team that won championship during his rookie year.
By the time he got to Orlando he was 8 ppg, 5 rpg , 1,1 apg backup for Howard. Not bad.

Guy was just complete moron off court.

Bamba is literally too long for his own good. Just like Porzingis is too tall for his own health.

He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Despite "positionless" basketball, there still are "perfect" and "less perfect" measurments for players, depending on positions they play. For istance having 6'11 SG isn't really helpful because it's too taxting on his body to chase guards off screens .

plenty of players with very long wing spans have coordination. Plenty of tall players have coordination. Yes, he doesnt seem very agile or coordinated, but A + B != C as an axiom. And Porzingis being tall, there have been players as tall or taller that were fine. Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, RAlph Sampson, Sabonis, Bradley. what exactly do you mean too tall for his own health?

[basketballRob]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He also got drafted by team that won championship during his rookie year.
By the time he got to Orlando he was 8 ppg, 5 rpg , 1,1 apg backup for Howard. Not bad.

Guy was just complete moron off court.

Bamba is literally too long for his own good. Just like Porzingis is too tall for his own health.

He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Despite "positionless" basketball, there still are "perfect" and "less perfect" measurments for players, depending on positions they play. For istance having 6'11 SG isn't really helpful because it's too taxting on his body to chase guards off screens .

plenty of players with very long wing spans have coordination. Plenty of tall players have coordination. Yes, he doesnt seem very agile or coordinated, but A + B != C as an axiom. And Porzingis being tall, there have been players as tall or taller that were fine. Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, RAlph Sampson, Sabonis, Bradley. what exactly do you mean too tall for his own health?

Mo seems very agile to me. Some fans really like Vuc and like to magnify any mistakes he makes.

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[pepe1991]

Darko was 18 when he was drafted.
He also got drafted by team that won championship during his rookie year.
By the time he got to Orlando he was 8 ppg, 5 rpg , 1,1 apg backup for Howard. Not bad.

Guy was just complete moron off court.

Bamba is literally too long for his own good. Just like Porzingis is too tall for his own health.

He lacks any coordination but is it really that suprising for player that has 8 feet long wingspan? It's like blaming Taco Fall and Marjanovic for being slow.

Despite "positionless" basketball, there still are "perfect" and "less perfect" measurments for players, depending on positions they play. For istance having 6'11 SG isn't really helpful because it's too taxting on his body to chase guards off screens .

plenty of players with very long wing spans have coordination. Plenty of tall players have coordination. Yes, he doesnt seem very agile or coordinated, but A + B != C as an axiom. And Porzingis being tall, there have been players as tall or taller that were fine. Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, RAlph Sampson, Sabonis, Bradley. what exactly do you mean too tall for his own health?

Porzingis already has lot of health issues.
Oden's carer has been shot because of lower body injuries.
Same with Bynum.
Yao Ming is another example of too tall to last long player.
You can easly add guys like Ralph Sampson to this list.

When you look landscape of their injuries, bigs tend to recover longer and A LOT of careers of bigs ended with injuries of leg or foot.
Most of tall people lack coordination, in nba,however only best athletes get to that level. However if you are making "clumsiest " nba players list it's almost all -centers club with McGee, Ashik, Thabeet, Biyombo, Perkins... and they all have same problem in common - poor hands and complete inability to control or even catch a damn ball.
McGee got better over time but guy was laughing stock for years.