Game 28: Los Angeles Clippers (20-7) @ Chicago Bulls (9-18) - 8:00 PM ET

[Yogatti]

Speaking of adjustments, Nick Nurse is great at that since the Raptors were down every series during their playoff run, except for the Finals. That's why I consider him an elite head coach because his coaching and adjustments he makes, something Doc Rivers is incapable as shown by his numerous choke jobs in the playoffs

[50CalClips]

I mean, I think you’re right but … you may not be looking at the big picture. Look, two of our top three usage guys were out. So was our (ostensible) PG and primary backcourt defender. In crunch time—and Lou, Bev, and Kawhi should/will be out there at crunch time—that’s losing that bulk of player touches. What adjustments do you make on offense? Who is setting picks and moving without the ball the most? Who is the primary/secondary ball handler? How are plays different? Roles become totally different.

Fatigue, lack of familiarity (no Kawhi, Bev, Lou, Sham’s first game in over a month), and typical confusion as a result of specific player loss type. Tie those three things together.

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[PREFACE: My expectations are Championship or bust. At the elite level, all of the small things make the difference.]

TBH, it hasn't happened this whole time, though, even with Kawhi and Lou (and JaMychal/Shamet). And the point remains either way... the options have to be there AND they have to be exploited!

Whenever they're on the court Shamet/Bev/Patterson/JaMychal should be a CONSTANT three-point threat (which is their role after all) at the very least, not to mention the other players (when Kawhi is initiating, PG and Lou should be anticipating the pass, and vice versa).

Fatigue?! If George is "fatigued," then the more reason to drive (feint a drive) and kick! Let other people get in some work. He shouldn't be driving into double and triple-teams. Honestly, this is basic basketball. I'm not looking to criticizing just to criticize. We have the weapons, we need to deploy them! (and even if we're missing a few, the protocol has to be in place, has to be ingrained)

no offense but this reads like someone who's never played organised basketball trying to tell people how to play basketball.

The fact you want everything so quick and players further suggests that. Again give it time. If you want a new coach the new coach is going to have growing pains too.

You remind me of one of those types of people who are bad parents, that can't take good advice about their kids from anyone... and continue to parent badly. Take offense or don't.

[NippySudz]

[PREFACE: My expectations are Championship or bust. At the elite level, all of the small things make the difference.]

TBH, it hasn't happened this whole time, though, even with Kawhi and Lou (and JaMychal/Shamet). And the point remains either way... the options have to be there AND they have to be exploited!

Whenever they're on the court Shamet/Bev/Patterson/JaMychal should be a CONSTANT three-point threat (which is their role after all) at the very least, not to mention the other players (when Kawhi is initiating, PG and Lou should be anticipating the pass, and vice versa).

Fatigue?! If George is "fatigued," then the more reason to drive (feint a drive) and kick! Let other people get in some work. He shouldn't be driving into double and triple-teams. Honestly, this is basic basketball. I'm not looking to criticizing just to criticize. We have the weapons, we need to deploy them! (and even if we're missing a few, the protocol has to be in place, has to be ingrained)

no offense but this reads like someone who's never played organised basketball trying to tell people how to play basketball.

The fact you want everything so quick and players further suggests that. Again give it time. If you want a new coach the new coach is going to have growing pains too.

You remind me of one of those types of people who are bad parents, that can't take good advice about their kids from anyone... and continue to parent badly. Take offense or don't.

No offense taken. I wouldn't be an a hard nose parent. That creates rebellious children. I wouldn't expect my children to just know how to behave. I'll raise them and understand there will be growing pains.


You want instant oatmeal instead of a cake. You expect everyone to gel immediately because they are professionals. Not everyone can do that. Are you at the peak performance on the first few months of your job? Of course not. So why do you expect that in others?

There's things like chemistry, familiarity, playbook, execution and so many other nuances that are in the game. It's not black and white.


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[50CalClips]

no offense but this reads like someone who's never played organised basketball trying to tell people how to play basketball.

The fact you want everything so quick and players further suggests that. Again give it time. If you want a new coach the new coach is going to have growing pains too.

You remind me of one of those types of people who are bad parents, that can't take good advice about their kids from anyone... and continue to parent badly. Take offense or don't.

No offense taken. I wouldn't be an a hard nose parent. That creates rebellious children

You want instant oatmeal instead of a cake. You expect everyone to gel immediately because they are professionals. Not everyone can do that. Are you at the peak performance on the first few months of your job? Of course not. So why do you expect that in others?

It's not that at all. I understand it takes time to fully mesh, to reach their optimal level as a team... but these little things, these simple things, that they seem to be whiffing on, it's concerning.

The play is for Paul George to drive... okay, if you're Shamet make yourself available to be the 2nd option, or maybe he's the decoy... well then Patterson needs to be primed and ready, etc.

It could be Coaching or it could be lapses by the players, idk. But that shht's not going to fly when it's Playoff time.

WHY go into a play giving yourself just ONE OPTION!?!? Even if you are Paul George, and even if you are missing 2 or 3 other weapons.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COUNTS.

[50CalClips]

... they're not f&cken rookies.

[NippySudz]

You remind me of one of those types of people who are bad parents, that can't take good advice about their kids from anyone... and continue to parent badly. Take offense or don't.

No offense taken. I wouldn't be an a hard nose parent. That creates rebellious children

You want instant oatmeal instead of a cake. You expect everyone to gel immediately because they are professionals. Not everyone can do that. Are you at the peak performance on the first few months of your job? Of course not. So why do you expect that in others?

It's not that at all. I understand it takes time to fully mesh, to reach their optimal level as a team... but these little things, these simple things, that they seem to be whiffing on, it's concerning.

The play if for Paul George to drive... okay, if you're Shamet make yourself available to be the 2nd option, or maybe he's the decoy... well then Patterson needs to be primed and ready, etc.

It could be Coaching or it could be lapses by the players, idk. But that shht's not going to fly when it's Playoff time.

WHY go into a play giving yourself just ONE OPTION!?!? Even if you are Paul George, and even if you are missing 2 or 3 other weapons.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COUNTS.

Maybe it's a broken play and he's force to improvise. That happened the Chicago game when Derrick walton jr had the ball and dribbled into single digits seconds . Sieman made a comment on it and billups brought up how it's a broken play.

You're going to have those moments in December.

PG is a new a player to doc system. He has to learn all the options the same way derrick has to. That comes with time.

Of course it's not going to fly in the playoffs. That's what the regular season is for. To practice this stuff.

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[nickhx2]

yeah, these are the kinds of things i'm not gonna be too concerned about this early in the season with our limited spate of games.

but i totally understand that they're things OF concern, at some point. i'm confident we'll get lots of the little things smoothed out.

[NippySudz]

... they're not f&cken rookies.

So what. Again, it goes back to my work example. You could be a veteran of a police force but if you leave your county and go work for another county, the culture may be different. The way you answer calls, protocol etc.

That's no different here. They're not optimal yet. They have very few practices and I see people blaming doc for this but that's incorrect. It's the NBA schedule. There's not a lot of days in-between games to practice.

But back to the point, they have to put that culture and philosophy in practice and guys may not know where to go or where to pass the basketball should they be available because they don't fully know their spots on the floor. They're gelling still. Some things are not automatic. What may have happened in Billy donavans system may not happen in docs, etc

I get you about creating championship habits and they should but I don't expect shamet to just "get open" and for PG to "know" where's he's at when's he's never played with him before and he's still new to doc's system too. Not every player have hot spots all over the floor. They have spots where they like the ball. That's chemistry. That's time.

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[Max Headrom]

Where did the new batch of whiners come from?? This is getting annoying as hell...