Jaylen Brown: “It wasn’t Kyrie’s fault. It was on the coaches and FO.”

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Re: Jaylen Brown: “It wasn’t Kyrie’s fault. It was on the coaches and FO.” 

Post#81 » by LascelleL » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:08 pm

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Especially the ones who just threw $115M at you...



I'm sorry is that supposed to give them Power over Brown? does that take away his autonomy? No. He did them a favour accepting their deal because he could have gotten the same if not more on the open market.


Not really, but Stevens and the FO have a lot more leverage here than Jaylen Brown does. He doesnt have a NTC (I dont think) and he's not some untouchable guy. Dumb comment about a player (kyrie) who will self sabotage everywhere he goes. Unless Brown wants out the comment just makes zero sense whatsoever.




Jaylen Brown is a smart, articulate defense-first young Player who is on the upside and continues to excel in every category across the board. He has shown a willingness to step up in big moments and to also take a step back for the sake of The Team.

You think the Celtics would easily trade him? No. He has all the leverage. They can trade him but both parties know it would probably favour Jaylen because he'll get more touches and will accelerate his growth. He's hold his organization accountable while also mimicking what they themselves had said.
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Post#82 » by PD28 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:11 pm

One of the biggest What-if scenario's lol

What could've happened if they all bought in last year?

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Post#83 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:43 pm

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rockmanslim wrote:"It wasn’t his fault that certain guys couldn’t take a step back."

Who is Jaylen referring to here?


Probably Hayward. Brown and Rozier appeared upset with their reduced roles last season once Kyrie and Gordon returned to the regular lineup.

It was a hard situation for everyone, and you get why some of the guys might buck at the Stevens/Hayward situation given the Butler relationship and perceived favoritism, but Brown really needs to look in the mirror here. At no point in his career has he ever been remotely close to Hayward as an on-ball guy and playmaker. He should focus on becoming a consistent option rather than throwing his coach and front office under the bus.


I have a hard time believing it's Hayward because I don't think JB would take subliminal shots at a current teammate like that. Or would he? Do he and Hayward have a thing?


Well, in one interpretation Hayward was doing as he was told, but told the wrong things to do.
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Post#84 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:57 pm

It’s crazy that the Celtics were a supposed huge disappointment for winning 49 games with one all star and no superstar.


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Post#85 » by WHITE_HOT_HEAT » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:06 pm

Appreciate his guts and frank statements. Ainge, the coach and certain characters like Rozier deserve as much blame as Kyrie. Ainge more so for a colossal **** show last season. Terry was and will continue to be an ass.

Not defending anyone since I'm neutral and actually find Kyrie to be overrated due to his baggage. However, blame is on multiple parties and no matter what Boston Media says, people know the truth.
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Post#86 » by SichtingLives » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:30 pm

Ainge bungled it. That it is on certain players or the coaching staff is all secondary to him freezing hard on the AD chase even once it was glaringly sideways and the clubhouse was poisoned. He should've dumped Morris and Rozier for a million obvious reasons last year but he didn't, he caught tunnel vision on AD and couldn't budge from his outdated plans. Ainge copped to his failures this year. No idea why Brown is still dishing this but my guess is the never-ending ****-stoking media. It's all so very boring now. Move on.
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Post#87 » by The_Hater » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:44 pm

And with Jaylen Brown’s remarks, he ironically and inadvertently becomes the new Kyrie Irving on the Celtics.

And who says Kyrie didn’t teach the young players anything?
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Post#88 » by ballup » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:24 am

amcoolio wrote:Lot of Rozier blaming in this thread yet he's been great taking a back seat to emerging star Devonte Graham in Charlotte

Also when Terry got a new contract weren't Tatum and Brown first to congratulate and support him?
Rozier's problem wasn't that he had a better player along side him. It was that he was a dribble heavy ball hog as a backup when what was needed from him was a defensive first shot maker. He logged the most time with the ball in his hands after Kyrie. Combine that with his bad playmaking and inability to make shots besides step back 3s and the whoever he plays with gets freezed out. In an ecosystem where shots and touches are hard to balance already, Rozier threw a cocktail molotov at it.

Rozier is much more acceptable where it doesn't matter if he takes a lot of possessions like the situation he is in now or when Kyrie went down. The rant where he said he said he sacrificed the most was bullcrap though as he was the worst offender of guys who didn't buy in



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Post#89 » by monopoman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:33 am

Jaylen Brown eager to be on another team now, I'm sure the Celtics would love to re-sign this dude after he trashes the FO and the coaches.
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Post#91 » by ITYSL » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:38 am

Prediction: A global pandemic is about to start. Millions will die. There will be an effective vaccine available within a year, but Kyrie will refuse to take it despite a mandate by the city of New York. This will put his playing time with the Nets at risk in the 2021-22 season.

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Post#92 » by KIRAG » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:40 am

Obviously, Kyrie is a unique individual. He has his own beliefs and what-not. He may have said some things to the media that obviously did not sit well with Celtics fans (the "so what" comment during the playoffs) throwing his young teammates under the bus earlier in the season, (which he admitted later on, that he was at fault and that Jaylen was right) and throwing away the playoffs series against the bucks. For that, of course the fans will not be happy about it.

But I will believe Jaylen, Jayson and Smart what they all said that Kyrie was not the one to blame (or solely to blame) for the team's meltdown last year. Rozier and Mook were obviously not happy about their reduced role on a contract year. I think what Jaylen is trying to point out here is these things would not have happened if the coaching staff and FO were able to control the situation.

I would not be surprised either if Jaylen has a little grudge over how he was utilized by Brad since his rookie year. Everything he got right now, he had to earn it. He was not like Tatum who was given the starting role right away as a rookie. Although you can argue that Jaylen came in to a different celtics team than Jayson did.
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Post#93 » by Jables » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:21 am

Why do the players that are supposedly smart always say the dumbest things? And I believe him for what it's worth, but some people just love the sound of their own voice.
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Post#94 » by cl2117 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:11 am

The_Hater wrote:And with Jaylen Brown’s remarks, he ironically and inadvertently becomes the new Kyrie Irving on the Celtics.

And who says Kyrie didn’t teach the young players anything?

What? The two are nothing alike and this is nothing like the BS Kyrie kept spouting.
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Post#95 » by The_Hater » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:12 pm

cl2117 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:And with Jaylen Brown’s remarks, he ironically and inadvertently becomes the new Kyrie Irving on the Celtics.

And who says Kyrie didn’t teach the young players anything?

What? The two are nothing alike and this is nothing like the BS Kyrie kept spouting.


So Jaylen didn’t say anything awkward here throwing his coaching staff and FO under the bus? Just normal stuff we hear from players all the time?

I’m willing bet you spent all of last season defending Kyrie’s BS just like you’re doing right now.
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Post#96 » by Gooner » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:05 pm

The_Hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:And with Jaylen Brown’s remarks, he ironically and inadvertently becomes the new Kyrie Irving on the Celtics.

And who says Kyrie didn’t teach the young players anything?

What? The two are nothing alike and this is nothing like the BS Kyrie kept spouting.


So Jaylen didn’t say anything awkward here throwing his coaching staff and FO under the bus? Just normal stuff we hear from players all the time?

I’m willing bet you spent all of last season defending Kyrie’s BS just like you’re doing right now.


Brown wouldn't mind being traded at all. That's what this comes down to.
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Post#97 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:12 pm

Ainge really should have traded Rozier and Morris, especially the latter considering he asked for a trade before the season began. I get why he kept Rozier though, since he was insurance in case Kyrie left. What Ainge didn't anticipate though, was just how bad Rozier was going to be last season. I'm still shocked Charlotte gave him that contract. Hindsight says we should have dealt him to Phoenix for that 1st rounder, but Ainge got greedy and wanted less protection than what the Suns were offering at the time.
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Post#98 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:41 pm

The_Hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:And with Jaylen Brown’s remarks, he ironically and inadvertently becomes the new Kyrie Irving on the Celtics.

And who says Kyrie didn’t teach the young players anything?

What? The two are nothing alike and this is nothing like the BS Kyrie kept spouting.


So Jaylen didn’t say anything awkward here throwing his coaching staff and FO under the bus? Just normal stuff we hear from players all the time?

I’m willing bet you spent all of last season defending Kyrie’s BS just like you’re doing right now.


He awkwardly fumbled through the company line:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/11/26/danny-ainge-points-finger-at-himself-for-last-years-celtics-failure/

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/09/brad-stevens-accepts-blame-for-celtics-failure-i-did-a-bad-job/

Its pretty clear the organizational philosophy has been to blame the FO and the coaches and not any single player. Players obviously get coached on PR stuff and the organization smartly said to blame the FO and coaching staff rather than a player.

This is really a giant nothing burger.
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Post#99 » by The_Hater » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:51 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:What? The two are nothing alike and this is nothing like the BS Kyrie kept spouting.


So Jaylen didn’t say anything awkward here throwing his coaching staff and FO under the bus? Just normal stuff we hear from players all the time?

I’m willing bet you spent all of last season defending Kyrie’s BS just like you’re doing right now.


He awkwardly fumbled through the company line:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/11/26/danny-ainge-points-finger-at-himself-for-last-years-celtics-failure/

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/09/brad-stevens-accepts-blame-for-celtics-failure-i-did-a-bad-job/

Its pretty clear the organizational philosophy has been to blame the FO and the coaches and not any single player. Players obviously get coached on PR stuff and the organization smartly said to blame the FO and coaching staff rather than a player.

This is really a giant nothing burger.


Kyrie and Jaylen are both responsible for the words that come out of their own mouths.

Kyrie said many distracting things last season and this is just more of the same from Jaylen. The players would be much better served to just STFU at this point.
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Post#100 » by I_Like_Dirt » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:59 pm

The_Hater wrote:The players would be much better served to just STFU at this point.


The league mandates that these guys do interviews. Players can't completely do as you ask. That's not how it works.
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