Knicks Hire David Blatt as Basketball Ops Consultant

[Jimmit79]

I wish I was Steve Mills friend get hired make easy money early vacation so many benefits.

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[Triple C]

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[Chanel Bomber]

Ok so first of all David Blatt is a former coach whose mandate throughout his basketball career was to win games. Not to manage assets, not to evaluate talent, but to win games. I'm not saying he can't adjust, but I'm really afraid that with that coaching background he's going to push for the Knicks to become competitive asap and mismanage our assets for short-term results. How many successful front office people had a coaching background? There's a clash of interests philosophically speaking.

Was he that great of a basketball mind anyway? Ty Lue was a more progressive head coach than Blatt, and he gets clowned on the regular while Blatt (wonder why) gets widely praised for his coaching acumen despite failing on several fronts with the Cavs. I have just never been impressed with him as a head coach (not saying he was bad either).

We're once again moving further away from analytics with this hire. This is the biggest problem with this organization. It's old-school. Everything is old-school. The decision-makers are old-school. The vision is old-school.

And of course this reeks of nepotism. This is bad all-around.

Guys and their coaching career get judged on more than their NBA track record. I mean, if your analogy stands, than Mike Miller hasn't done sh*t, as he's coached 6 NBA games and other than that kicked around the NCAA and G-League, where he did well at times and other times didn't exactly light things on fire.

Blatt's a basketball lifer. It MIGHT matter, brain wise - depends on his role. Then again, Perry was and is a basketball lifer and he hasn't been that great. So obviously, the answer might be to get guys who have a lot of success early but are like 7 years in - a fast riser, a mustang.

But I'm not judging Blatt based on a 1 year stint with prime diva LeBron.

This could be a bad idea for a number of reasons around Mills, but what ability Blatt might have for the role not necessarily it.

I'm not condemning Blatt based on his year with LeBron. I'm just saying he didn't impress me, and that for me his reputation doesn't match what we've seen from him in the NBA. Maybe he is this great basketball mind, my point was I would've needed to see a lot more from him to trust him.

But philosophically I don't think head coaches tend to make great GMs because they have to look at things from different perspectives which sometimes clash (eg win now vs slow rebuild, trading assets for vets vs accumulating assets). That was my bigger point.

I'm not getting hyped about Mike Miller either by the way. I need to see more from him before I proclaim him "a real coach" like some of us do.

[damedash09]

This moves seems like dolan and mills agreement.He doesnt trust Perry or mills and will allow blatt to help them in trades qtxthe deadline to move players and maybe get back something of use

In the end both get fired attche end if season and new president and gm will be here

[ChaosHamster]

Why?

I just like other guys better, Messina for example. Is much more accomplished, also went through Pop school in NBA. He would've been a much better choice.

I mean, it matters if they want to make Blatt either a coach or put him in some higher FO job. If he just stays as an consultant, it doesn't really matter.

None of what you said makes Blatt one of the worst guys from Europe.

You just liked Messina more, stick wit that.

One of the worst guys with some kind of resume. Thats what I wrote.

[DOT]

Ok so first of all David Blatt is a former coach whose mandate throughout his basketball career was to win games. Not to manage assets, not to evaluate talent, but to win games. I'm not saying he can't adjust, but I'm really afraid that with that coaching background he's going to push for the Knicks to become competitive asap and mismanage our assets for short-term results. How many successful front office people had a coaching background? There's a clash of interests philosophically speaking.

Was he that great of a basketball mind anyway? Ty Lue was a more progressive head coach than Blatt, and he gets clowned on the regular while Blatt (wonder why) gets widely praised for his coaching acumen despite failing on several fronts with the Cavs. I have just never been impressed with him as a head coach (not saying he was bad either).

We're once again moving further away from analytics with this hire. This is the biggest problem with this organization. It's old-school. Everything is old-school. The decision-makers are old-school. The vision is old-school.

And of course this reeks of nepotism. This is bad all-around.

Guys and their coaching career get judged on more than their NBA track record. I mean, if your analogy stands, than Mike Miller hasn't done sh*t, as he's coached 6 NBA games and other than that kicked around the NCAA and G-League, where he did well at times and other times didn't exactly light things on fire.

Blatt's a basketball lifer. It MIGHT matter, brain wise - depends on his role. Then again, Perry was and is a basketball lifer and he hasn't been that great. So obviously, the answer might be to get guys who have a lot of success early but are like 7 years in - a fast riser, a mustang.

But I'm not judging Blatt based on a 1 year stint with prime diva LeBron.

This could be a bad idea for a number of reasons around Mills, but what ability Blatt might have for the role not necessarily it.

I'm not condemning Blatt based on his year with LeBron. I'm just saying he didn't impress me, and that for me his reputation doesn't match what we've seen from him in the NBA. Maybe he is this great basketball mind, my point was I would've needed to see a lot more from him to trust him.

But philosophically I don't think head coaches tend to make great GMs because they have to look at things from different perspectives which sometimes clash (eg win now vs slow rebuild, trading assets for vets vs accumulating assets). That was my bigger point.

I'm not getting hyped about Mike Miller either by the way. I need to see more from him before I proclaim him "a real coach" like some of us do.

I honestly don't think we've seen enough of Blatt as an NBA coach to really judge him

The Cavs were all LeBron, and there's really nothing that says Blatt made them worse or that they would've lost the Finals with him instead of Lue

But he's not a coach, just a consultant. Like sham says, it's basically just Mills giving his friend a job with no real power. Plus, he has more connections than just Mills, so it might be a Houston move

I really don't think it deserves a ton of analysis either way

[Deeeez Knicks]

Maybe its not a huge deal, but the timing is strange and seems like there's a lot going on behind the scenes. Its hard to trust anything this team does.

[Jimmit79]

How can blatt help in trade unless they're looking at a euro who blatt has watched closely....

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[Jeff Van Gully]

to be fair, we don't know to what extent blatt is consulting. but word. big time mills garbage.

[JBreezeNY]

I just like other guys better, Messina for example. Is much more accomplished, also went through Pop school in NBA. He would've been a much better choice.

I mean, it matters if they want to make Blatt either a coach or put him in some higher FO job. If he just stays as an consultant, it doesn't really matter.

None of what you said makes Blatt one of the worst guys from Europe.

You just liked Messina more, stick wit that.

One of the worst guys with some kind of resume. Thats what I wrote.

I know what you wrote.....what makes him one of the worst?

[thebuzzardman]

Most teams use the G League for development. The Knicks use it as another layer of intrigue.

[YouthMovement]

Maybe its not a huge deal, but the timing is strange and seems like there's a lot going on behind the scenes. Its hard to trust anything this team does.

Seems very sketchy

[ChaosHamster]

None of what you said makes Blatt one of the worst guys from Europe.

You just liked Messina more, stick wit that.

One of the worst guys with some kind of resume. Thats what I wrote.

I know what you wrote.....what makes him one of the worst?

I wrote it in the first post.. Messina is more accomplished and with better NBA experience. Guy like Obradović won like 10 Euroleague championships and is far more accomplished.

But yeah, maybe I shouldn't even put Blatt next to thsoe guys.

[Chanel Bomber]

Guys and their coaching career get judged on more than their NBA track record. I mean, if your analogy stands, than Mike Miller hasn't done sh*t, as he's coached 6 NBA games and other than that kicked around the NCAA and G-League, where he did well at times and other times didn't exactly light things on fire.

Blatt's a basketball lifer. It MIGHT matter, brain wise - depends on his role. Then again, Perry was and is a basketball lifer and he hasn't been that great. So obviously, the answer might be to get guys who have a lot of success early but are like 7 years in - a fast riser, a mustang.

But I'm not judging Blatt based on a 1 year stint with prime diva LeBron.

This could be a bad idea for a number of reasons around Mills, but what ability Blatt might have for the role not necessarily it.

I'm not condemning Blatt based on his year with LeBron. I'm just saying he didn't impress me, and that for me his reputation doesn't match what we've seen from him in the NBA. Maybe he is this great basketball mind, my point was I would've needed to see a lot more from him to trust him.

But philosophically I don't think head coaches tend to make great GMs because they have to look at things from different perspectives which sometimes clash (eg win now vs slow rebuild, trading assets for vets vs accumulating assets). That was my bigger point.

I'm not getting hyped about Mike Miller either by the way. I need to see more from him before I proclaim him "a real coach" like some of us do.

I honestly don't think we've seen enough of Blatt as an NBA coach to really judge him

The Cavs were all LeBron, and there's really nothing that says Blatt made them worse or that they would've lost the Finals with him instead of Lue

But he's not a coach, just a consultant. Like sham says, it's basically just Mills giving his friend a job with no real power. Plus, he has more connections than just Mills, so it might be a Houston move

I really don't think it deserves a ton of analysis either way

If you thought I was not going to overthink this and go on a useless rant about a pointless hire, then you still don't understand me

Again I don't feel like I judged Blatt, Iet alone condemned him for his stint in Cleveland. I was merely saying that I wasn't impressed with him during his time with LeBron. He wasn't exactly revolutionizing the game is my point (and I'm not blaming him for that).

More importantly, the front office seems to be moving further away from analytics. Obviously - in a vacuum - I don't mind having a real basketball person (like Blatt) in there, but with Mills, Perry and Blatt, we don't seem to have a very forward-thinking front office to say the least. And this is where my impressions of Blatt as a HC in Cleveland (where he was rather conventional) reinforce that intuition.

I don't know, I'm tired.

[hatnlvr]

The hiring seems very strange and quite honestly this has Mills written all over it (they were teammates at Princeton and Blatt is his guy).

Mills needs to be shown the damn door! Allowing him to continue to bolster his staff is pointless and counterproductive

[cgmw]

to be fair, we don't know to what extent blatt is consulting. but word. big time mills garbage.

Dolan won’t sit idly by the rest of this season. He wants a major roster move, but realizes it’s a PR nightmare right now with Mills at the helm.

He heard “Princeton” and thinks it will rehabilitate Mills (read: Dolan) in the public eye when he makes Dolanesque roster moves later this season

Pure PR ploy meant to empower Dolan to make in-season trades without criticism.

Cue the Chris Paul (will recruit Giannis) rumors.

[Fat Kat]

The board trying to figure out how this move is relevant

[Marty McFly]

So, Mills isn’t going anywhere.

[Triple C]

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The belief here is that the addition of Blatt doesn't signify anything about Mills' status. It gives Blatt, who played with Mills and Robinson at Princeton, the opportunity to pursue a post-coaching career path. Blatt has a close relationship with Mills and Robinson, and is clearly respected by others in the organization based on how strongly he was considered for the past two coaching vacancies.

But it seems far-fetched to suggest the Blatt hire has any impact on the future of the front office.

[DaGawd]

How can blatt help in trade unless they're looking at a euro who blatt has watched closely....

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