Game 28: Detroit Pistons (11-16) vs. Toronto Raptors (18-8) - 7:00 PM ET

ducler · Post #1 » by **ducler** » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:48 pm

Manocad · Post #2 » by **Manocad** » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:29 pm

Something’s going on because the last I heard the line on this game was Toronto -2.

davidvolumes · Post #3 » by **davidvolumes** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:18 am

Not much good can happen when Andre initiates the offense 35 feet away from the basket I don't see much good happening when Andre dribbles 5 or 6 times in a possession I can't see many good things happening when Andre brings the ball up the court all these things are factors of coaching

Arp590 · Post #4 » by **Arp590** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:24 am

davidvolumes wrote:Not much good can happen when Andre initiates the offense 35 feet away from the basket I don't see much good happening when Andre dribbles 5 or 6 times in a possession I can't see many good things happening when Andre brings the ball up the court all these things are factors of coaching

We're shooting 52.1%, maybe a few too many turnovers, but defense is clearly the issue.
You're not going to win many games giving up 53.2% FG & 47.4% 3PT.

There was a game earlier in the season where Andre was bringing the ball up the court & a lot of goods things were happening as a result.

davidvolumes · Post #5 » by **davidvolumes** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:28 am

Andre handles ball too far away from the basket consistently that's not winning basketball his turnover to assist ratio confirms it the win-loss record confirms it

Arp590 · Post #6 » by **Arp590** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:39 am

davidvolumes wrote:Andre handles ball too far away from the basket consistently that's not winning basketball his turnover to assist ratio confirms it the win-loss record confirms it

Win-loss record does not confirm anything. Correlation does not equal causation.
We were the #1 3 point shooting team in the league just a few games ago & we are 7th in FG%.
We are ranked 8th in offensive efficiency.
DEFENSE IS THE PROBLEM.

davidvolumes · Post #7 » by **davidvolumes** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:41 am

I'm speaking specifically about Andres turnover ratio Andre is averaging more turnovers then assist is that a problem or not

sludgefoot · Post #8 » by **sludgefoot** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:43 am

This coach is ruining Kennard. When Luke gets to initiate the offense he make things happen and he scores and assists. Put Griffen on the floor and he becomes the initiator while Luke becomes a 4th option, if he's lucky. Our other initiator, pt. guard had 2 assists. Andre and Griffen force things down low that produce a lot of turnovers. Griffen does not make those around him better.

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jakebernat · Post #9 » by **jakebernat** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:53 am

Andre is a walking empty possession who gambles on defense 90% of the time. This is never going to change. I’ve been a die hard fan for as long as I can remember, but I just can’t take it anymore. This guy is just clueless as to what winning basketball is, and the worst part is that he could absolutely be a major asset to a team. his ego combined with his minimal b-ball IQ is just guaranteed mediocrity.