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This was a BS flag. Football has gone too far in protecting the QB. What’s Anderson supposed to do ?

It was as clean a sack as you can make, and it might have been the biggest play of the game. Anderson had a spectacular game. Too bad the rest of the defense was subpar.
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Definitely the type of guy that Dan would open the checkbook up for. If we could get rid of Bruce in the same transaction, it'd be a real positive off-season. Urban would be dumb to come here though.
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Post#1024 » by wermolwermol777 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:55 am

That last game was alright, i like that Haskins through injury or not looked like an NFL qb. Even if it was the Eagles, who if I am honest fooled me for 2.5 quarters in week1 that we might be good overall too.

Terry is just a beast though, He is the best WR we've had since at least Santana and i expect to wear his jersey for the decade at least. And if Steven Sims can develop hands - he kind of reminds of a prime antwaan randle el and I'd be quite ok with that as our slot option. Love his explosiveness in the return game too. Last game though I think he more reminded me of Kwame in the post

Harmon, i think Harmon is fine I hope we keep trying to see what he has. I hope we see him as he matures and as he gets to be a 3rd receiving option in a legit offense. Not sure he is ready to be a proper 2nd option yet. Having an actual TE (+Terry) I think could make him a lot better.


Also recent games aside - I might be in the minority but I'd not want us to get Chase Young even if we pick 2nd. And maybe especially then - I'd rather trade back and get one of the top corners or top O Line in Round 1 (or both depending on what we can get for our pick) and build from there. I love Chase Young and I think if he comes out this year he'll be immediately great for almost any team most likely, but we're not in a spot where this is what we need. I'd rather get a LT (or RT if there is a world where Twilliams plays sans Bruce) and the 4th or 5th best corner in the draft.
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Post#1025 » by wermolwermol777 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:57 am

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Definitely the type of guy that Dan would open the checkbook up for. If we could get rid of Bruce in the same transaction, it'd be a real positive off-season. Urban would be dumb to come here though.


Not a fan of that prospect. Not to say there isn't value in having a leader of men (or boys as the case may be) role in the locker room - college coaches rarely work out like this, but it looks like a splashy signing - so i am terrified it might be just what we're after.
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Post#1026 » by Ruzious » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:09 pm

wermolwermol777 wrote:That last game was alright, i like that Haskins through injury or not looked like an NFL qb. Even if it was the Eagles, who if I am honest fooled me for 2.5 quarters in week1 that we might be good overall too.

Terry is just a beast though, He is the best WR we've had since at least Santana and i expect to wear his jersey for the decade at least. And if Steven Sims can develop hands - he kind of reminds of a prime antwaan randle el and I'd be quite ok with that as our slot option. Love his explosiveness in the return game too. Last game though I think he more reminded me of Kwame in the post

Harmon, i think Harmon is fine I hope we keep trying to see what he has. I hope we see him as he matures and as he gets to be a 3rd receiving option in a legit offense. Not sure he is ready to be a proper 2nd option yet. Having an actual TE (+Terry) I think could make him a lot better.


Also recent games aside - I might be in the minority but I'd not want us to get Chase Young even if we pick 2nd. And maybe especially then - I'd rather trade back and get one of the top corners or top O Line in Round 1 (or both depending on what we can get for our pick) and build from there. I love Chase Young and I think if he comes out this year he'll be immediately great for almost any team most likely, but we're not in a spot where this is what we need. I'd rather get a LT (or RT if there is a world where Twilliams plays sans Bruce) and the 4th or 5th best corner in the draft.

The game really showed the difference at TE - the Eagles being probably the best in the NFL there and the Skins being the worst. Sprinkle's been a disaster, and our top 2 TE's are likely retiring. After OT, TE should be the number 1 priority in the offseason for the Skins.

Agreed on Young. We have a good shot at getting the number 2 pick, and I figure a QB is going 1st. There will be teams willing to pay a ransom for Young. Trade down a little and get a LT and extra picks. Christian's position should be RT, and he should be given the chance to beat out Moses - who commits too many penalties. If we can still get something in trade for Trent Williams, do it - they should have already done that. Maybe most importantly - fire Bruce Allen - Snyder's poisonous right hand.
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Post#1027 » by BearlyBallin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:51 pm

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I guess we’re holding DB tryouts. This is the first game I’ve honestly hoped for a loss.
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Post#1028 » by BearlyBallin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:56 pm

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So this is not a low hit by #44, but last weeks sack by Anderson was flagged as one? WTF!!
Oh well losing the game but winning in the draft. Lol still doesn’t feel right, but… Go Giants!
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Post#1029 » by BearlyBallin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:19 pm

Wow 99 yard drive by Skins to tie the game. 29 seconds left.
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Post#1030 » by DCZards » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:31 pm

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So this is not a low hit by #44, but last weeks sack by Anderson was flagged as one? WTF!!
Oh well losing the game but winning in the draft. Lol still doesn’t feel right, but… Go Giants!


I had the same thought. I’m sure the Skins will send both videos to the NFL pointing this out.
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Post#1031 » by Ruzious » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:37 pm

BearlyBallin wrote:Wow 99 yard drive by Skins to tie the game. 29 seconds left.

Other than Haskins getting hurt it was a perfect tank loss.
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Post#1033 » by popper » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:52 pm

So, if we lose to Dallas next week, should we select Chase Young or try to trade down? I’m torn but don’t think I could pass on him.
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Post#1034 » by queridiculo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:39 pm

popper wrote:So, if we lose to Dallas next week, should we select Chase Young or try to trade down? I’m torn but don’t think I could pass on him.


Trade/cut Kerrigan, draft Chase Young.

Also about time that Washington ditches their obsession with the 3-4.

I may suffer from nostalgia induced brain rot but I don't recall a single season since the Gregg Williams led 4-3 defenses that Washington ever fielded a unit that excelled since they have made that switch for god knows what reason.

The Slurs have a personnel group that's far better suited to play with four down lineman in their base formation, I have no idea why they keep sabotaging themselves year in and year out.
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Post#1035 » by Ruzious » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:13 pm

popper wrote:So, if we lose to Dallas next week, should we select Chase Young or try to trade down? I’m torn but don’t think I could pass on him.

It really depends on what offers they get, and they should get some good ones. We could definitely use Young, but... I think we're 7th in sacks this season with a "young" front 7, and we NEED an LT - not to mention a TE. I'm thinking we can get a pick around 12 plus a 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder.

I am no NFL draft expert, but this draft is reportedly loaded with tackles -with Andrew Thomas, Austin Jackson, Mekhi Becton, and Tristan Wirfs all being LT'S that have been mocked to go in the top half of the 1st round, so with the 12th pick we get a top LT prospect. With the 2nd rounder, we get maybe the top TE in the draft - Albert Okwuegunam. And next year, we have 2 1sts. If we get a good GM and a good head coach and a good DCoordinator… ok, that's a lot of ifs, lol. Point is - that 2nd pick is the biggest asset the Skins have had in a long time. They're likely gonna get some really nice offers for it. Gotta consider trading it.

Edit - the Skins are now 8th in the NFL in sacks with 43. Carolina is #1 with 52.
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Post#1036 » by LyricalRico » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:56 pm

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popper wrote:So, if we lose to Dallas next week, should we select Chase Young or try to trade down? I’m torn but don’t think I could pass on him.

It really depends on what offers they get, and they should get some good ones. We could definitely use Young, but... I think we're 7th in sacks this season with a "young" front 7, and we NEED an LT - not to mention a TE. I'm thinking we can get a pick around 12 plus a 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder.

I am no NFL draft expert, but this draft is reportedly loaded with tackles -with Andrew Thomas, Austin Jackson, Mekhi Becton, and Tristan Wirfs all being LT'S that have been mocked to go in the top half of the 1st round, so with the 12th pick we get a top LT prospect. With the 2nd rounder, we get maybe the top TE in the draft - Albert Okwuegunam. And next year, we have 2 1sts. If we get a good GM and a good head coach and a good DCoordinator… ok, that's a lot of ifs, lol. Point is - that 2nd pick is the biggest asset the Skins have had in a long time. They're likely gonna get some really nice offers for it. Gotta consider trading it.

Edit - the Skins are now 8th in the NFL in sacks with 43. Carolina is #1 with 52.


I'd actually say they need both LT and RT (never been a fan of Moses), plus a starting LG and competent backups across the board. You mentioned TE, but I'd also say RB since Peterson is aging and Guice can't stay healthy. They basically need an entire draft IMO just for that side of the ball. To me that's almost an argument FOR taking Young to complete their defensive front, and then using every other pick on offensive players. Especially if the draft is as loaded at OT as you're saying, they don't have to get one super high.

Then again, the potential haul for moving back just a few spots could be too much to pass up. And even with a formidable DL group, they still aren't a playoff team next year so acquiring more picks to cast a wider net would make sense. But are teams really offering a king's ransom to move up in the draft these days? Seems like teams have been more willing to trade first round picks for vets this year, so maybe that means the market is changing. Even so, they could dangle it, and if they don't get a big enough offer they can always just "settle" for Chase Young.
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Post#1037 » by LyricalRico » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:59 pm

queridiculo wrote:Also about time that Washington ditches their obsession with the 3-4.


Good point, the coaching search will also play a role in "to Chase Young, or not to Chase Young". Once they get the coach/scheme decided, we'll probably have a better idea of what direction they'll need to go in the draft. Count me in on going back to the 4-3.
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Post#1038 » by Wizardspride » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:59 pm

You DO NOT pass up Chase Young.

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Post#1039 » by Ruzious » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:15 pm

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popper wrote:So, if we lose to Dallas next week, should we select Chase Young or try to trade down? I’m torn but don’t think I could pass on him.

It really depends on what offers they get, and they should get some good ones. We could definitely use Young, but... I think we're 7th in sacks this season with a "young" front 7, and we NEED an LT - not to mention a TE. I'm thinking we can get a pick around 12 plus a 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder.

I am no NFL draft expert, but this draft is reportedly loaded with tackles -with Andrew Thomas, Austin Jackson, Mekhi Becton, and Tristan Wirfs all being LT'S that have been mocked to go in the top half of the 1st round, so with the 12th pick we get a top LT prospect. With the 2nd rounder, we get maybe the top TE in the draft - Albert Okwuegunam. And next year, we have 2 1sts. If we get a good GM and a good head coach and a good DCoordinator… ok, that's a lot of ifs, lol. Point is - that 2nd pick is the biggest asset the Skins have had in a long time. They're likely gonna get some really nice offers for it. Gotta consider trading it.

Edit - the Skins are now 8th in the NFL in sacks with 43. Carolina is #1 with 52.


I'd actually say they need both LT and RT (never been a fan of Moses), plus a starting LG and competent backups across the board. You mentioned TE, but I'd also say RB since Peterson is aging and Guice can't stay healthy. They basically need an entire draft IMO just for that side of the ball. To me that's almost an argument FOR taking Young to complete their defensive front, and then using every other pick on offensive players. Especially if the draft is as loaded at OT as you're saying, they don't have to get one super high.

Then again, the potential haul for moving back just a few spots could be too much to pass up. And even with a formidable DL group, they still aren't a playoff team next year so acquiring more picks to cast a wider net would make sense. But are teams really offering a king's ransom to move up in the draft these days? Seems like teams have been more willing to trade first round picks for vets this year, so maybe that means the market is changing. Even so, they could dangle it, and if they don't get a big enough offer they can always just "settle" for Chase Young.

I think Guice will be the man at RB. Remember, his injury this year was just a meniscus - usually a 3 weeks type injury. RB's will always be injury-prone to an extent. He's a stud. I wouldn't count on Bryce Love, but I would count on Guice. You can always find a good backup RB. At T, I don't think you want to go with 2 rookies. If they don't think the combo of Christian and Moses are good enough at RT, they should get a veteran RT. I do think they've given up on Christian at LT - but probably not at RT. I don't think they need a guard - the top 3 are very good - with Scherff, Martin showing real well - and they need to keep Flowers - who proved he's a very good guard and a very bad tackle. With LT being the most important position on the line and protecting the QB's blind side, they do need an elite one that can start as a rookie. And they don't have a 2nd round pick - that's a big problem if they don't acquire one. We got blind lucky with McLaurin in the 3rd round; that's not likely to happen again.
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Post#1040 » by Ruzious » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:17 pm

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Ruzious wrote:It really depends on what offers they get, and they should get some good ones. We could definitely use Young, but... I think we're 7th in sacks this season with a "young" front 7, and we NEED an LT - not to mention a TE. I'm thinking we can get a pick around 12 plus a 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder.

I am no NFL draft expert, but this draft is reportedly loaded with tackles -with Andrew Thomas, Austin Jackson, Mekhi Becton, and Tristan Wirfs all being LT'S that have been mocked to go in the top half of the 1st round, so with the 12th pick we get a top LT prospect. With the 2nd rounder, we get maybe the top TE in the draft - Albert Okwuegunam. And next year, we have 2 1sts. If we get a good GM and a good head coach and a good DCoordinator… ok, that's a lot of ifs, lol. Point is - that 2nd pick is the biggest asset the Skins have had in a long time. They're likely gonna get some really nice offers for it. Gotta consider trading it.

Edit - the Skins are now 8th in the NFL in sacks with 43. Carolina is #1 with 52.


I'd actually say they need both LT and RT (never been a fan of Moses), plus a starting LG and competent backups across the board. You mentioned TE, but I'd also say RB since Peterson is aging and Guice can't stay healthy. They basically need an entire draft IMO just for that side of the ball. To me that's almost an argument FOR taking Young to complete their defensive front, and then using every other pick on offensive players. Especially if the draft is as loaded at OT as you're saying, they don't have to get one super high.

Then again, the potential haul for moving back just a few spots could be too much to pass up. And even with a formidable DL group, they still aren't a playoff team next year so acquiring more picks to cast a wider net would make sense. But are teams really offering a king's ransom to move up in the draft these days? Seems like teams have been more willing to trade first round picks for vets this year, so maybe that means the market is changing. Even so, they could dangle it, and if they don't get a big enough offer they can always just "settle" for Chase Young.

I think Guice will be the man at RB. Remember, his injury this year was just a meniscus - usually a 3 weeks type injury. RB's will always be injury-prone to an extent. He's a stud. I wouldn't count on Bryce Love, but I would count on Guice. You can always find a good backup RB. It's time to stop going with Peterson - he's put up numbers, but that really hasn't helped the team develop. At T, I don't think you want to go with 2 rookies. If they don't think the combo of Christian and Moses are good enough at RT, they should get a veteran RT. I do think they've given up on Christian at LT - but probably not at RT. I don't think they need a guard - the top 3 are very good - with Scherff, Martin showing real well - and they need to keep Flowers - who proved he's a very good guard and a very bad tackle. With LT being the most important position on the line and protecting the QB's blind side, they do need an elite one that can start as a rookie. And they don't have a 2nd round pick - that's a big problem if they don't acquire one. We got blind lucky with McLaurin in the 3rd round; that's not likely to happen again.
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