Which current Warriors do you want to see back on the roster next season?

[Quazza]

I'm on the Chriss Train. Outside of that GR3 and Burks on deep bench rolls

[killmongrel]

Steph/Bowman
Klay
Paschall/Robinson
Green/Spellman/Chriss
Looney/Smailagic

These are all the people who have proven they have a place on the team. Doesn't mean the others won't.

[ChuckDurn]

Steph/Bowman
Klay
Paschall/Robinson
Green/Spellman/Chriss
Looney/Smailagic

These are all the people who have proven they have a place on the team. Doesn't mean the others won't.

I’d add Burks backing up Klay. Having an aggressive veteran scorer coming off the bench is always a good thing, in my opinion. I like the other guys listed, but they’re all very young, or a little too passive offensively (Robinson).

I think I’ve seen enough of Poole and Evans. Lee is a bit of a tough call.

Russell is sub-optimized here (his style of play offensively doesn’t fit with the Warriors’ scheme, and forces Klay to likewise be sub-optimized much of the time by playing the 3)..... he has value, but is better elsewhere.

[wco81]

Well guess what, the Evans is under contract next year and Poole is under contract the next 2-3 years.

Ideally they get very little minutes next year.

Unfortunate thing is that better players like Bowman, Robinson, Burks and Chris are all free agents. WCS has a player option.

Man Nunn would have been a good option.

[azwfan]

Well guess what, the Evans is under contract next year and Poole is under contract the next 2-3 years.

Ideally they get very little minutes next year.

Unfortunate thing is that better players like Bowman, Robinson, Burks and Chris are all free agents. WCS has a player option.

Man Nunn would have been a good option.

Presumably we won't be hard-capped next year, so if Evans continues on his current trajectory we can release him if (when) some random camp invitee takes his roster spot next year. Obviously we would still need to pay him, but the pressure to fill up the roster under the hard cap would be lifted.

[BballIntellect]

Well guess what, the Evans is under contract next year and Poole is under contract the next 2-3 years.

Ideally they get very little minutes next year.

Unfortunate thing is that better players like Bowman, Robinson, Burks and Chris are all free agents. WCS has a player option.

Man Nunn would have been a good option.

Presumably we won't be hard-capped next year, so if Evans continues on his current trajectory we can release him if (when) some random camp invitee takes his roster spot next year. Obviously we would still need to pay him, but the pressure to fill up the roster under the hard cap would be lifted.

Would we be able to release Poole too since his contract is still guaranteed next year and he might be the worst player in the NBA. Don't want to waste a roster spot on him if he can't contribute. We'll have more options next year. It won't be tryout season anymore.

[xdrta+]

Well guess what, the Evans is under contract next year and Poole is under contract the next 2-3 years.

Ideally they get very little minutes next year.

Unfortunate thing is that better players like Bowman, Robinson, Burks and Chris are all free agents. WCS has a player option.

Man Nunn would have been a good option.

Presumably we won't be hard-capped next year, so if Evans continues on his current trajectory we can release him if (when) some random camp invitee takes his roster spot next year. Obviously we would still need to pay him, but the pressure to fill up the roster under the hard cap would be lifted.

Would we be able to release Poole too since his contract is still guaranteed next year and he might be the worst player in the NBA. Don't want to waste a roster spot on him if he can't contribute. We'll have more options next year. It won't be tryout season anymore.

A guaranteed contract doesn't mean a guaranteed roster spot. You can release (waive) anybody, you just have to keep paying them if their contract is guaranteed.

[BballIntellect]

Presumably we won't be hard-capped next year, so if Evans continues on his current trajectory we can release him if (when) some random camp invitee takes his roster spot next year. Obviously we would still need to pay him, but the pressure to fill up the roster under the hard cap would be lifted.

Would we be able to release Poole too since his contract is still guaranteed next year and he might be the worst player in the NBA. Don't want to waste a roster spot on him if he can't contribute. We'll have more options next year. It won't be tryout season anymore.

A guaranteed contract doesn't mean a guaranteed roster spot. You can release (waive) anybody, you just have to keep paying them if their contract is guaranteed.

Well that's good news if we can just release a player so that he doesn't waste a roster spot. I thought you could only waive players who are on non guaranteed deals. Thanks for the answer.

[wco81]

But you won’t have as much cap space for their replacement.

[BballIntellect]

But you won’t have as much cap space for their replacement.

I'd rather not have any cap space than watch Jordan Poole play for the Golden State Warriors.

[xdrta+]

But you won’t have as much cap space for their replacement.

There will be no cap space next year no matter what.

[wco81]

Poole doesn’t have to get minutes but might as well give him a chance to develop a little. He’s 20 and Evans is 22. Not like they have a better prospect, unless they trade down for multiple picks and draft more 2s and 3s.

They don’t have cap space, can they go over the cap if they’re willing? Obviously they would make all kinds of changes if they get a shot at Giannis or AD.

But a far more likely scenario would be if they can get a talented 2/3 and they had to eat Evans contract next year?

[xdrta+]

Let's be clear about the cap. Projected cap is $116M. Steph, Klay, and Draymond add up to $100M--for 3 players. Trade Russell and take back even $20M, use the TE, sign a bunch of minimum players--it doesn't matter what they do, they're over the cap.

The projected tax level next year is $141M. It will be a struggle to stay under that and, personally, I don't think there's a chance in hell of it if they actually want to contend next year.

[TinoDubs]

Let's be clear about the cap. Projected cap is $116M. Steph, Klay, and Draymond add up to $100M--for 3 players. Trade Russell and take back even $20M, use the TE, sign a bunch of minimum players--it doesn't matter what they do, they're over the cap.

The projected tax level next year is $141M. It will be a struggle to stay under that and, personally, I don't think there's a chance in hell of it if they actually want to contend next year.

Thank you. We are not going to get any top tier players and Steph, Klay and Dray are still on a roster. I don't care whatever Jacob said and want. Jacob is not the only billionaire in the league. In fact, I don't think he is the top 10 richest owners in NBA. Steph should have taken 30m instead of 40m/yr. If he did that Klay might take a hometown discount last year. Steph made so much money from the shoe company. Will make more if his team is playing in the Finals every year.

At the current stage, I think if we're lucky if get Covington for Dlo. Then we can either keep Covington or trade him. Same to all the rental players this year, we can sign them for another year or sign for another, I don't think it will matter. IMO, I think it's all on Curry. If he can play the PG position like the pre-KD era, then we will be good. If he can't, it will be another long season.

[Mylie10]

Let's be clear about the cap. Projected cap is $116M. Steph, Klay, and Draymond add up to $100M--for 3 players. Trade Russell and take back even $20M, use the TE, sign a bunch of minimum players--it doesn't matter what they do, they're over the cap.

The projected tax level next year is $141M. It will be a struggle to stay under that and, personally, I don't think there's a chance in hell of it if they actually want to contend next year.

Right.....and I fully expect Lacob isn't going to let it stop him from what needs to be done.

[giberish]

Steph/Bowman
Klay/???
???/Paschall
Green/Spellman/Smailagic
Looney

Burks, GRIII, Chriss and WCS are all on effectively 1-year deals with UFA status and no Bird rights. To sign them again either means that they're still willing to take vet min money - so they're in low demand around the league and shouldn't be more then 3rd string - or by using MLE money, limiting what can be spend on others.

Evans and Poole are cheap, young, and currently bad. I wouldn't mind keeping one but having two 3rd string SG options seems like unwanted roster clutter.

IMO the team needs to add four significant players (and get the core guys healthy) to be in a good place next season. One high-quality SF (the toughest option to find), an extra rotation wing, a reserve combo guard, and a center to start or spit time with Looney. Add those 4 to the 8 listed above and it's 12 spots. Perhaps a 13th to Poole or Evans. Then two spots for a some combination of a min salary vet, a 2nd round pick, or open roster spot for midseason addition.

[xdrta+]

Steph/Bowman
Klay/???
???/Paschall
Green/Spellman/Smailagic
Looney

Burks, GRIII, Chriss and WCS are all on effectively 1-year deals with UFA status and no Bird rights. To sign them again either means that they're still willing to take vet min money - so they're in low demand around the league and shouldn't be more then 3rd string - or by using MLE money, limiting what can be spend on others.

Evans and Poole are cheap, young, and currently bad. I wouldn't mind keeping one but having two 3rd string SG options seems like unwanted roster clutter.

IMO the team needs to add four significant players (and get the core guys healthy) to be in a good place next season. One high-quality SF (the toughest option to find), an extra rotation wing, a reserve combo guard, and a center to start or spit time with Looney. Add those 4 to the 8 listed above and it's 12 spots. Perhaps a 13th to Poole or Evans. Then two spots for a some combination of a min salary vet, a 2nd round pick, or open roster spot for midseason addition.

Both GR3 and WCS have player options for next year ($2M+ each), so unless they're traded they'll be back if they want to be.

[wco81]

Steph/Bowman
Klay/???
???/Paschall
Green/Spellman/Smailagic
Looney

Burks, GRIII, Chriss and WCS are all on effectively 1-year deals with UFA status and no Bird rights. To sign them again either means that they're still willing to take vet min money - so they're in low demand around the league and shouldn't be more then 3rd string - or by using MLE money, limiting what can be spend on others.

Evans and Poole are cheap, young, and currently bad. I wouldn't mind keeping one but having two 3rd string SG options seems like unwanted roster clutter.

IMO the team needs to add four significant players (and get the core guys healthy) to be in a good place next season. One high-quality SF (the toughest option to find), an extra rotation wing, a reserve combo guard, and a center to start or spit time with Looney. Add those 4 to the 8 listed above and it's 12 spots. Perhaps a 13th to Poole or Evans. Then two spots for a some combination of a min salary vet, a 2nd round pick, or open roster spot for midseason addition.

The thing as with last year's team is that when you have 2 more more max or super max players, your roster is going to be top-heavy, rely on 3 or 4 all-stars and fill the rest with minimum players.

KD is gone but Klay got his super Max and Draymond got a big raise and for now, they have DLo. Even if they move DLo, they have an additional 20-29 million committed.

So which significant players are you going to add and at what level? MLE $5 million players? $10 million?

Lacob might have been willing to pay luxury taxes if KD stayed, because they would have been favorites to keep winning. But is he going to pay $50, $100 million or more in luxury taxes for this team?

[giberish]

Steph/Bowman
Klay/???
???/Paschall
Green/Spellman/Smailagic
Looney

Burks, GRIII, Chriss and WCS are all on effectively 1-year deals with UFA status and no Bird rights. To sign them again either means that they're still willing to take vet min money - so they're in low demand around the league and shouldn't be more then 3rd string - or by using MLE money, limiting what can be spend on others.

Evans and Poole are cheap, young, and currently bad. I wouldn't mind keeping one but having two 3rd string SG options seems like unwanted roster clutter.

IMO the team needs to add four significant players (and get the core guys healthy) to be in a good place next season. One high-quality SF (the toughest option to find), an extra rotation wing, a reserve combo guard, and a center to start or spit time with Looney. Add those 4 to the 8 listed above and it's 12 spots. Perhaps a 13th to Poole or Evans. Then two spots for a some combination of a min salary vet, a 2nd round pick, or open roster spot for midseason addition.

Both GR3 and WCS have player options for next year ($2M+ each), so unless they're traded they'll be back if they want to be.

I keep expecting WCS to be traded to clear up a bit of room against the hard cap (so the team can sign Bowman to a varsity contract and add a 15th guy for depth as guys keep getting injured). GRIII could easily opt out looking for more, or else be an acceptable option as a 13-15th man (or random trade filler).

[giberish]

Steph/Bowman
Klay/???
???/Paschall
Green/Spellman/Smailagic
Looney

Burks, GRIII, Chriss and WCS are all on effectively 1-year deals with UFA status and no Bird rights. To sign them again either means that they're still willing to take vet min money - so they're in low demand around the league and shouldn't be more then 3rd string - or by using MLE money, limiting what can be spend on others.

Evans and Poole are cheap, young, and currently bad. I wouldn't mind keeping one but having two 3rd string SG options seems like unwanted roster clutter.

IMO the team needs to add four significant players (and get the core guys healthy) to be in a good place next season. One high-quality SF (the toughest option to find), an extra rotation wing, a reserve combo guard, and a center to start or spit time with Looney. Add those 4 to the 8 listed above and it's 12 spots. Perhaps a 13th to Poole or Evans. Then two spots for a some combination of a min salary vet, a 2nd round pick, or open roster spot for midseason addition.

The thing as with last year's team is that when you have 2 more more max or super max players, your roster is going to be top-heavy, rely on 3 or 4 all-stars and fill the rest with minimum players.

KD is gone but Klay got his super Max and Draymond got a big raise and for now, they have DLo. Even if they move DLo, they have an additional 20-29 million committed.

So which significant players are you going to add and at what level? MLE $5 million players? $10 million?

Lacob might have been willing to pay luxury taxes if KD stayed, because they would have been favorites to keep winning. But is he going to pay $50, $100 million or more in luxury taxes for this team?

I'd guess that one is added with the 'no hard cap' MLE, so around $5M. One or two in the return of a Russell trade. Maybe someone with the TPE, maybe a 1st round pick (unless traded completely away in a deal). So probably Russell's salary plus $5-20M. Which definitely has the Warriors paying a bunch of luxury tax money - really no way around that while having a competitive team at this point.

It does raise the question of how much the team would ignore luxury tax issues vs being at least somewhat budget conscious. One reason why I think the Russell for Covington based deals are good for GS - they fill the hardest spot to fill (starting SF) with a quality player making $11M (or so). If the team does care about the luxury tax bill it gives more room to add other guys without hitting an internal budget limit (wherever that would be set).