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ChicagoStrong · Post #81 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:36 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:
FriedRise wrote:If it weren't for the Bulls, the Warriors would've been on a 13-game losing streak. They haven't won any game but against Chicago since Nov 19.

Without us, the Atlanta Hawks would be 4-24 and even worse than the Warriors. Of course that is counting the Warriors win against us. lol. Without the Bulls both the Warriors and the Hawks would be 4-24. They would both be challenging the 98 Nuggets who went 11-71 and are considered the worst team in history.

Modern history? Because the Sixers went 9-73 in 1973.

The Nets went 12-70 in 2010.

The Sixers went 10-72 in 2016.

Man, the Bulls have fell hard.

RakimAbdulJabar · Post #82 » by **RakimAbdulJabar** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:37 am

The Bucks are the first team I've seen all season that weren't really bothered with the Lakers length and didn't allow them to just throw countless lobs as bigs rolled to the basket. It wasn't just Giannis in there contesting, Brook Lopez did a good job and the rest of the team made a collective effort to clog the paint in the 1st half.

It's absolutely ridiculous how many whistles Davis gets, you can't go near that guy without the whistle blowing

Giannis 5-8 from 3 was huge and while he's definitely improved in that department I'm still not a fan of him taking that many in general over the course of the season as opposing defenses should be letting a 32% three point shooter just take them when you consider how effective he can be once he gets inside both for himself and finding others open for 3

I'm very surprised the Bucks are doing so well, I know Giannis has stepped up big time, but on paper I didn't see this roster playing so well.

Hill and Matthews looked great while Middleton to me is still a huge overpay and they may end up regretting it if they can't move him as I don't trust them to win a best of game 7 series in the finals but if I'm wrong then great, as long as the Lakers don't win I'm good.

I hope Howard and Dudley are out for the season soon, those 2 idiots are just out there looking to injure people honestly

ChicagoStrong · Post #83 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:24 am

Looking at Spencer Dinwiddie, just another player that GarPax squandered with poor talent evaluation

RakimAbdulJabar · Post #84 » by **RakimAbdulJabar** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:56 am

Clippers blew the game vs the Rockets. Really disappointing to see Leonard/George not step up to take the challenge of guarding Harden

ZOMG · Post #85 » by **ZOMG** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:50 pm

ChicagoStrong wrote:Looking at Spencer Dinwiddie, just another player that GarPax squandered with poor talent evaluation

Quiet now.... you're not supposed to mention his name around here. 8-)

Anyway, we're building around Coby White... he's our (non) point guard of the future.

MrSparkle · Post #86 » by **MrSparkle** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:23 pm

Lakers have a couple of challenges the rest of Dec.: Nuggets, Clippers, Blazers (eh).

Kind of interesting how everyone's... underwhelming a bit. I'm still waiting for LAL's inevitable slide.

dice · Post #87 » by **dice** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:16 pm

ChicagoStrong wrote:Looking at Spencer Dinwiddie, just another player that GarPax squandered with poor talent evaluation

along w/ every other team in the league, including the nets on prior occasions

dice · Post #88 » by **dice** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:28 pm

ChicagoStrong wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
FriedRise wrote:If it weren't for the Bulls, the Warriors would've been on a 13-game losing streak. They haven't won any game but against Chicago since Nov 19.

Without us, the Atlanta Hawks would be 4-24 and even worse than the Warriors. Of course that is counting the Warriors win against us. lol. Without the Bulls both the Warriors and the Hawks would be 4-24. They would both be challenging the 98 Nuggets who went 11-71 and are considered the worst team in history.

Modern history? Because the Sixers went 9-73 in 1973.

The Nets went 12-70 in 2010.

The Sixers went 10-72 in 2016.

Man, the Bulls have fell hard.

SRS:

-14.68 1993 mavs (11-71) (ten man rotation, all but 1 under age 26. injured rookie jim jackson, terry davis, derek harper (age 31), sean rooks, mike izzulino, walter bond, doug smith, randy white, brian howard, donald hodge - half those names don't even ring a bell)

-12.04 1971 cavs (15-67)
-11.74 1998 nuggets (eight man rotation: dean garrett, laphonso ellis, anthony goldwire, johnny newman, bobby jackson, danny fortson, eric washington, tony battie - two names I don't remember)
-11.50 1973 sixers
-11.13 1989 heat (15-67)
-11.12 1983 rockets (14-68)
-11.00 1987 clippers (12-70)

-9.92 2016 sixers
-9.23 2000 bulls (17-65)
-8.93 2010 nets (1 team worse that year)
-8.92 2016 lakers (17-65)

https://fansided.com/2018/06/18/every-nba-teams-worst-iteration-ever/6/

MrSparkle · Post #89 » by **MrSparkle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:25 am

A-B’ing the Grizz and Bulls rebuilds, I can’t help but cry/facepalm. Such a cleaner and more straight-forward rebuild. Besides the 3 (much) better draft prospects, I like their buy-low younger-sided vets, and they even did dino Marc Gasol a pretty classy favor by putting him in position to win that Raptors ring instead of tanking into retirement.

dice · Post #90 » by **dice** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:36 am

MrSparkle wrote:A-B’ing the Grizz and Bulls rebuilds, I can’t help but cry/facepalm. Such a cleaner and more straight-forward rebuild. Besides the 3 (much) better draft prospects, I like their buy-low younger-sided vets, and they even did dino Marc Gasol a pretty classy favor by putting him in position to win that Raptors ring instead of tanking into retirement.

eh, given age they probably upgraded trading gasol for valenciunas

Jcool0 · Post #91 » by **Jcool0** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:51 am

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MrSparkle · Post #92 » by **MrSparkle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:39 am

dice wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:A-B’ing the Grizz and Bulls rebuilds, I can’t help but cry/facepalm. Such a cleaner and more straight-forward rebuild. Besides the 3 (much) better draft prospects, I like their buy-low younger-sided vets, and they even did dino Marc Gasol a pretty classy favor by putting him in position to win that Raptors ring instead of tanking into retirement.

eh, given age they probably upgraded trading gasol for valenciunas

Well yes and no. For the 3 month rental , and that pretty crucial Embiid/Sixers series, I’d say Marc was 100% worth it for Toronto.

Minor major move for both sides imo.

Post #93 » by **Ice Man** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:15 am

The 2019-20 Miami Heat is crazy smart. This team has zero pedigree. The highest draft pick of anybody who plays is Justice Winslow, at #10. The starters are two very late lottery picks (#13 and #14), one late first rounder, and two undrafted players. The lead guy off the bench was a 2nd rounder.

And they have a better record (slightly) than The Process because all they do in the court is share, share, share. Tonight, they had 20 assists on their first 20 made baskets. Man.

Dan Z · Post #94 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:25 am

RakimAbdulJabar wrote:The Bucks are the first team I've seen all season that weren't really bothered with the Lakers length and didn't allow them to just throw countless lobs as bigs rolled to the basket. It wasn't just Giannis in there contesting, Brook Lopez did a good job and the rest of the team made a collective effort to clog the paint in the 1st half.

It's absolutely ridiculous how many whistles Davis gets, you can't go near that guy without the whistle blowing

Giannis 5-8 from 3 was huge and while he's definitely improved in that department I'm still not a fan of him taking that many in general over the course of the season as opposing defenses should be letting a 32% three point shooter just take them when you consider how effective he can be once he gets inside both for himself and finding others open for 3

I'm very surprised the Bucks are doing so well, I know Giannis has stepped up big time, but on paper I didn't see this roster playing so well.

Hill and Matthews looked great while Middleton to me is still a huge overpay and they may end up regretting it if they can't move him as I don't trust them to win a best of game 7 series in the finals but if I'm wrong then great, as long as the Lakers don't win I'm good.

I hope Howard and Dudley are out for the season soon, those 2 idiots are just out there looking to injure people honestly

Was this always the case? Or did it change once he got to LA?

TheGOATRises007 · Post #95 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:35 am

Dan Z wrote:
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:The Bucks are the first team I've seen all season that weren't really bothered with the Lakers length and didn't allow them to just throw countless lobs as bigs rolled to the basket. It wasn't just Giannis in there contesting, Brook Lopez did a good job and the rest of the team made a collective effort to clog the paint in the 1st half.

It's absolutely ridiculous how many whistles Davis gets, you can't go near that guy without the whistle blowing

Giannis 5-8 from 3 was huge and while he's definitely improved in that department I'm still not a fan of him taking that many in general over the course of the season as opposing defenses should be letting a 32% three point shooter just take them when you consider how effective he can be once he gets inside both for himself and finding others open for 3

I'm very surprised the Bucks are doing so well, I know Giannis has stepped up big time, but on paper I didn't see this roster playing so well.

Hill and Matthews looked great while Middleton to me is still a huge overpay and they may end up regretting it if they can't move him as I don't trust them to win a best of game 7 series in the finals but if I'm wrong then great, as long as the Lakers don't win I'm good.

I hope Howard and Dudley are out for the season soon, those 2 idiots are just out there looking to injure people honestly

Was this always the case? Or did it change once he got to LA?

2nd highest FTR of his career.

His highest was his sophomore season.

dumbell78 · Post #96 » by **dumbell78** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:39 am

I find myself envious of the 8 or so rotational players Dallas has. They are smart, tough, and play for each other. They have a great bench. Oh tell me again coaching doesn't matter, Rick is great! Took his team into Philly and Milwaukee without Luka and killed it.

ImSlower · Post #97 » by **ImSlower** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:22 am

Oh my gosh that Ja Morant near-dunk would have been possibly top 5 greatest dunks ever in-game. Ho Lee Cow

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dice · Post #98 » by **dice** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:38 am

ImSlower wrote:Oh my gosh that Ja Morant near-dunk would have been possibly top 5 greatest dunks ever in-game. Ho Lee Cow

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easily would've been the goat. i can't imagine that anyone has ever dunked over a guy planted outside the restricted area. particularly not a 6'8" player

so what IS the greatest in-game dunk? pippen's dunk over ewing, replete with trash talk of ewing and spike lee afterward, was his career peak moment in addition to being a nasty dunk, so i might go with that one

Post #99 » by **DuckIII** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:43 am

dice wrote:
ChicagoStrong wrote:Looking at Spencer Dinwiddie, just another player that GarPax squandered with poor talent evaluation

along w/ every other team in the league, including the nets on prior occasions

Also, for all their flaws, letting talented players go who end up developing into desirable players is not one of them. This only happens extremely rarely to the Bulls.

Their problem has been more in talent accumulation than in talent leakage.

Post #100 » by **DuckIII** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:46 am

Is anyone surprised that Ja does stuff like that? This was all predictable. He was an elite prospect. The only people who didn’t see that were being “competition” snobs. Same with Doncic.