Game 32: Los Angeles Clippers (22-9) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (14-14) - 7:00 PM ET

[esqtvd]

Blowout the Spurs, two pages. Clippers loss, 6 pages. I'm just gonna block all the Debbie Downers, ya'll aren't fans, ya'll just hate Doc Rivers and don't care if the team loses because ya'll can continue with this obsession with Doc. In short, fu+k off...

it's that they would rather be right than enjoy the Clippers winning

perverse

no way to go through life
miserable
make everyone else miserable
wtf

[TheNewEra]

Sorry, I made a typo, I meant to say that's something that is a whole team problem

Everyone needs to be held accountable . Coaching and players. Doc needs to call the time out when okc knocks ot down to 10 not when thry knock it down to 7 or 5 and the team need to execute.

Lou Brown left Wild Thing in the game. The coach can't program his players. Even a good college coach will let his players test their wings. Can't leave the training wheels on forever.

These Clippers need to learn to trust themselves and trust each other, not look over to their coach every time to tell them how to take a piss.

I'm not sure some of you guys get what it takes to coach the NBA in the 21st century. It's a players' game. Doc is letting them fail all on their own. Imagine if he'd given them detailed instructions, plans and maps and we still lost. Instead of looking to themselves they'd blame him.

PG sucked ass
that's why we lost

The argument does not add up when using zone defense put the team out of position and caused multiple defensive mistakes. The team was overpowered on the glass to close out and allowed shooters to get off good looks. The team will play to the system they are given

[TheNewEra]

That reversed call was a momentum killer. I really don’t like this review system- seems so arbitrary as to what gets overturned

But it was the right call

[TheNewEra]

PG disappeared in the 2nd half. Zu could've used some minutes to secure some rebounds. Its the small things with us. OKC wanted it more. But I will say that PG has to ball out when the guy we let go for him has a stellar game and wants it more.

Really started to rip Harrel up during the inside and out game late. Glad the clippers media has been acknowledging these close out units might need tweaking. Terrible performance from PG

[TheNewEra]

Should of got McGruder and Green in there more both guys know how to crash the glass strong for their size

McGruder and J-Myke were team-best plus+10 and plus+17 respectively
good eye

although I can only imagine this board if Doc had put McGruder in at crunchtime LOL

I'm not a fan of mcgruder.

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Has his moments and he’s the closest thing you can get to Beverly when Beverly is out. McGruder/Shamet/Green were the foundation really of the run.

For some reason just like the Bulls game when PG came in and later Lou in this one that lineup went to complete crap. Didn’t have the workhorse defenders in Green and McGruder to attack the boards or help cover Harrell size disadvantage. Shamet yet again went to playing a off ball roll getting limited touches and only attempted one shot when the game was already over.

Doc made a mistake even with his starters. I would of went with McGruder and Shamet next to the other three guys.

[Roscoe Sheed]

That reversed call was a momentum killer. I really don’t like this review system- seems so arbitrary as to what gets overturned

But it was the right call

Kind of. Harrell was going up for a shot- didn’t push off- most of the time that is not called- especially because Noel was moving towards him as well.

I think all reviews should be scrapped except for clock reasons and to check 3 point shots. All others are too subjective and take too much time

[MartinToVaught]

Why are the game threads when the Clippers are close or losing more active than when they win? You guys that only come out the woodwork when they are losing are a joke and I can't take any of you seriously.

Game threads are longer during losses because a certain poster starts doing damage control for every detail of Doc's coaching and arguing with everyone who criticizes him.

[clipperlover]

Blowout the Spurs, two pages. Clippers loss, 6 pages. I'm just gonna block all the Debbie Downers, ya'll aren't fans, ya'll just hate Doc Rivers and don't care if the team loses because ya'll can continue with this obsession with Doc. In short, fu+k off...

Or, it could be that people saw this play out with the Lob City team. There were noticeable deficiencies that were going to prevent getting to the NBA Finals, but people made excuses all season long. Then, when those deficiencies reared their ugly heads in the playoffs vs good teams, season over.

If Kawhi, Parker, Manu or Duncan were playing like garbage with the Spurs, Pop would have no problem pulling them from the game and letting them know. I just don't recall Doc holding his star players accountable. We know he didn't hold Silver Spoon accountable and it caused tension on those teams.

Questioning Doc does not mean that someone is not a fan. Doc's teams have blown 3-1 and 3-2 series leads and have blown large 4th quarter leads in closeout games. He can be expected to do better also.

[MartinToVaught]

I'll never understand all the excuses for Doc. Last I checked, Vinny got fired after three seasons for the same exact results that Doc's given us in six seasons. The only difference is that Vinny didn't have tons of excuses made for him after every loss.

What am I missing here that makes people think Doc's above criticism - other than one championship he won over a decade ago for a different franchise than the one he's coaching now?

[Roscoe Sheed]

Somehow Lance Stephenson was allowed to elbow Boban in the head and not get it reversed last season. That’s what I mean by the arbitrariness of the refs

[50CalClips]

Shamet is not "wide open" (most times), and thats because there is no impetus coming from Coaching/Gameplaning to even go to him. Shamet, and establishing the 3-Pt threat, has been ignored.

Shamet was like 1-6 in the Phoenix win, but Doc noted he was like plus+15 because he spaced the floor and D-ed up. Why people think they see what the 15-man coaching staff [plus video and analytics] misses continues to confound me.

Doc saw this point completely. Shamet still gets respect from defenses. Until he doesn't, his plus/minus will tell us more about his effect on the game than simple box score stats.

Landry's frankly been playing like dogspit. Until tonight when he scored 14 and finished even in plus/minus tonight in a 6-point loss. Doc invested 31 minutes in him tonight, plus brought back J-Myke [plus+17] after missing a few weeks, plus gave McGruder some burn [plus+10] also coming back from injury.

Does anybody here know the difference between strategy and tactics? Just askin'.

You're coming off as if you're suggesting that Coaches/staffs are infallible. You think the 29 other Coaches/staffs also don't "miss" stuff either? Coaches have egos, coaches can be myopic. Glen is not above that.

[Roach Clip]

Why are the game threads when the Clippers are close or losing more active than when they win? You guys that only come out the woodwork when they are losing are a joke and I can't take any of you seriously.

Game threads are longer during losses because a certain poster starts doing damage control for every detail of Doc's coaching and arguing with everyone who criticizes him.

and has tantrums and calls people "losers" and tells people to "empty their bladder" and other sketchy stuff and then has the gall to write "This is supposed to be fun" like he's all full of sweetness and light. It happened on Scout.com, too. Good point, MTV.

[esqtvd]

Shamet is not "wide open" (most times), and thats because there is no impetus coming from Coaching/Gameplaning to even go to him. Shamet, and establishing the 3-Pt threat, has been ignored.

Shamet was like 1-6 in the Phoenix win, but Doc noted he was like plus+15 because he spaced the floor and D-ed up. Why people think they see what the 15-man coaching staff [plus video and analytics] misses continues to confound me.

Doc saw this point completely. Shamet still gets respect from defenses. Until he doesn't, his plus/minus will tell us more about his effect on the game than simple box score stats.

Landry's frankly been playing like dogspit. Until tonight when he scored 14 and finished even in plus/minus tonight in a 6-point loss. Doc invested 31 minutes in him tonight, plus brought back J-Myke [plus+17] after missing a few weeks, plus gave McGruder some burn [plus+10] also coming back from injury.

Does anybody here know the difference between strategy and tactics? Just askin'.

You're coming off as if you're suggesting that Coaches/staffs are infallible. You think the 29 other Coaches/staffs also don't "miss" stuff either? Coaches have egos, coaches can be myopic. Glen is not above that.

I'm not sure this is responsive to my argument. Doc is not coaching every game like it's a Game Seven. Which he used to. I'm glad he's not anymore.

I think you need to let your players test their wings in December, discover new and good things and let them learn lessons from their bad things. It's a new century. It's a players' league.

You can't coach in the NBA putting training wheels on your team.

This did not come down to just one possession. You had a bunch of strangers out there, missing 2 of our crunchtime staples, and also our two best defenders. If we'd have had either one, we'd have won. No way Shai and Schroder go off for 60 points, or ever will again.

So people can panic if they want. Once again, this loss was indicative of nothing. Growing pains.

[esqtvd]

Why are the game threads when the Clippers are close or losing more active than when they win? You guys that only come out the woodwork when they are losing are a joke and I can't take any of you seriously.

Game threads are longer during losses because a certain poster starts doing damage control for every detail of Doc's coaching and arguing with everyone who criticizes him.

and has tantrums and calls people "losers" and tells people to "empty their bladder" and other sketchy stuff and then has the gall to write "This is supposed to be fun" like he's all full of sweetness and light. It happened on Scout.com, too. Good point, MTV.

lol sock puppet

scout.com turned into crap because all the negativity chased the worthwhile people away

the bad drives out the good

[esqtvd]

That reversed call was a momentum killer. I really don’t like this review system- seems so arbitrary as to what gets overturned

But it was the right call

Kind of. Harrell was going up for a shot- didn’t push off- most of the time that is not called- especially because Noel was moving towards him as well.

I think all reviews should be scrapped except for clock reasons and to check 3 point shots. All others are too subjective and take too much time

Couldn't agree more. Stepping out of bounds and other possession things. Not fouls.