Trade Ideas (Part III)

[Stillwater]

low key trade idea
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7258263
ny/min/cle
CLE takes back the expiring Teague for expiring delly and expiring knight and get 2 seconds: 2020 Wolves 2nd and ny 2022 2nd 31-35 protected. Which will open another roster spot for absorbing extra players in a potential Love Clarkson or TT trade.

NY gets ROCO wolves 2022 2nd and Knights expiring getting out from under Randle and DSJ

MIN get DSJ and Randle and Delly's expiring + rights to Ognjen Jaramaz from NY

[jbk1234]

low key trade idea
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7258263
ny/min/cle
CLE takes back the expiring Teague for expiring delly and expiring knight and get 2 seconds: 2020 Wolves 2nd and ny 2022 2nd 31-35 protected. Which will open another roster spot for absorbing extra players in a potential Love Clarkson or TT trade.

NY gets ROCO wolves 2022 2nd and Knights expiring getting out from under Randle and DSJ

MIN get DSJ and Randle and Delly's expiring + rights to Ognjen Jaramaz from NY

I think Randle has negative value. Just cut the Knicks out.

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[jbk1234]

Increasingly, I think it's time for the Cavs to move on from TT for what value they can get. I was initially reluctant to move him before Love, but I think Love could be here for a while.

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[JonFromVA]

Increasingly, I think it's time for the Cavs to move on from TT for what value they can get. I was initially reluctant to move him before Love, but I think Love could be here for a while.

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Try to keep Henson? Or flush all assets of value?

[jbk1234]

Increasingly, I think it's time for the Cavs to move on from TT for what value they can get. I was initially reluctant to move him before Love, but I think Love could be here for a while.

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Try to keep Henson? Or flush all assets of value?

It depends on the offers. I'm of the opinion that second round picks after 40 are practically worthless.

[JonFromVA]

Increasingly, I think it's time for the Cavs to move on from TT for what value they can get. I was initially reluctant to move him before Love, but I think Love could be here for a while.

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Try to keep Henson? Or flush all assets of value?

It depends on the offers. I'm of the opinion that second round picks after 40 are practically worthless.

To be fair we did trade 4 questionable second rounders for Porter Jr, but GMs should be willing to play chicken at the deadline to try to get the best return - and that could leave us holding the bag.

[jbk1234]

We just traded Clarkson for 2 2nds and Exum.

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[Stillwater]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

[Revenged25]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

Also saves around $4 mil in cap space... maybe preparation for another trade that has the Cavs bring in more cap than they send out while still staying under the luxury?

[gflem]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

Also saves around $4 mil in cap space... maybe preparation for another trade that has the Cavs bring in more cap than they send out while still staying under the luxury?

B Knight deal?

[babyjax13]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

Really hoping Dante can show something, but I think having any expectations that he'll even be playable is a bit much. Even when he was healthy, he was rarely good. He had a few 5-10 game stretches where you thought he was putting it together, and then he'd immediately get hurt. Don't know that 2 2nds is an underpay for Clarkson, but it might be an underpay for Clarkson and offloading Dante's contract.

[Stillwater]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

Also saves around $4 mil in cap space... maybe preparation for another trade that has the Cavs bring in more cap than they send out while still staying under the luxury?

B Knight deal?

Given he hasn't played until now I guess it's pretty unlikely he gets moved for picks of any value.i mean if this really was more about absorbing a bigger contract it would have to be a good player paid like a great one or a decent pick attached to a longer bad deal

[gflem]

Also saves around $4 mil in cap space... maybe preparation for another trade that has the Cavs bring in more cap than they send out while still staying under the luxury?

B Knight deal?

Given he hasn't played until now I guess it's pretty unlikely he gets moved for picks of any value.i mean if this really was more about absorbing a bigger contract it would have to be a good player paid like a great one or a decent pick attached to a longer bad deal

Depending on Exum's health issues Knight may be in line for more minutes. I don't expect much from Exum, he has never stayed healthy for any length of time, and while I don't watch the Jazz play, I've not even heard about him having any type of success other than a decent game here or there.

[Stillwater]

B Knight deal?

Given he hasn't played until now I guess it's pretty unlikely he gets moved for picks of any value.i mean if this really was more about absorbing a bigger contract it would have to be a good player paid like a great one or a decent pick attached to a longer bad deal

Depending on Exum's health issues Knight may be in line for more minutes. I don't expect much from Exum, he has never stayed healthy for any length of time, and while I don't watch the Jazz play, I've not even heard about him having any type of success other than a decent game here or there.

I think it was beginning of last season he had a really impressive game attacking the rim showing exceptional length and defensive tools.
He is Mr glass though

[JonFromVA]

well Exum is injury prone but offers some defense we lack if they even keep him .the 2nds are not until 22/23 and are spurs 22 and GSW 23
IDK I mean if Exum is valuable to them so be it, but 2 meh seconds is underpay for JC .

Must be confident in youth stepping into that role

Really hoping Dante can show something, but I think having any expectations that he'll even be playable is a bit much. Even when he was healthy, he was rarely good. He had a few 5-10 game stretches where you thought he was putting it together, and then he'd immediately get hurt. Don't know that 2 2nds is an underpay for Clarkson, but it might be an underpay for Clarkson and offloading Dante's contract.

Either something like Delly told them to get him, or more likely they just wanted to move Clarkson to open shots for Garland and Porter Jr and/or they're ready to move Sexton in to Clarkson's role. The key is how early the Cavs moved on this deal.

[jbk1234]

As far as Exum, I'd just send him down to the G League until he's in game shape and is comfortable playing real minutes.

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[Stillwater]

As far as Exum, I'd just send him down to the G League until he's in game shape and is comfortable playing real minutes.

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which means he probably never plays a single minute for the Cavs , which I am fine with given as soon as he does he will be injured again and impossible to trade. This guy is so injury prone it's a wonder there has not been some sort of negotiated buy out by now.

[jbk1234]

As far as Exum, I'd just send him down to the G League until he's in game shape and is comfortable playing real minutes.

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which means he probably never plays a single minute for the Cavs , which I am fine with given as soon as he does he will be injured again and impossible to trade. This guy is so injury prone it's a wonder there has not been some sort of negotiated buy out by now.

I mean when you watch his highlights from last year, he's exactly the type of player who would be a great fit next to Sexton. Taller, can defend really well, and can run an offense with solid court vision. He's more of a catch and shoot player than an off the dribble or around the pick shooter. He played well off the ball with Mitchell by just spotting up at the three point line and waiting for the ball to come back out. He's absolutely in Sean Livingston last chance land in terms of injuries though. He's got to stay healthy.

[Stillwater]

As far as Exum, I'd just send him down to the G League until he's in game shape and is comfortable playing real minutes.

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which means he probably never plays a single minute for the Cavs , which I am fine with given as soon as he does he will be injured again and impossible to trade. This guy is so injury prone it's a wonder there has not been some sort of negotiated buy out by now.

I mean when you watch his highlights from last year, he's exactly the type of player who would be a great fit next to Sexton. Taller, can defend really well, and can run an offense with solid court vision. He's more of a catch and shoot player than an off the dribble or around the pick shooter. He played well off the ball with Mitchell by just spotting up at the three point line and waiting for the ball to come back out. He's absolutely in Sean Livingston last chance land in terms of injuries though. He's got to stay healthy.

I guess I am just not going to stick my neck for this one... just seems like hes already past that last chance as soon as he got traded here. Maybe this season proves to be his reckoning but the odds are he just plays really well and gets hurt again like every season before now.

[316Hornets]

Thoughts on Kevin Love's trade value? Biggest concern for me would be his contract combined with injury history. Is he able to play an entire season for a contending team or is he someone you have to nurse until the playoffs?