MrMiyagi wrote:That was quite the diatribe. All I said is I disagree that it blows the original trilogy out of the water. I didn't say I hated it, or that you were wrong for having your opinion. I think the new trilogy okay, much like the prequels are okay (to me).SuperSunsFan wrote:MrMiyagi wrote:I disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The original was never popular because of its amazing story or characterization, it is only now that a star wars is being judged solely on its story and if it doesn't adhered to a very specific way hardcore fans wanted it to be exactly it gets trashed. how about enjoying for its amazing editing, photography, art direction, and the soundtrack? simple and basic functional story structure with light humors and likeable characters as a backdrop to showcase state of the art SFX has always been the way the original was designed. For Christ sake in episode 4 clearly by design there was a love triangle between all the principle characters, Lucas changed course in the second and forced onto us this leia is Luke's sister bs and somehow the original is now being treated as the pinnacle of story telling? give me a break. did we know anything about Han Solo besides him being a cynical outside but heroic inside space pirate who used to only look out for himself until he made friend with Luke and Leia and reluctantly join the resistance, but no all of a sudden new star wars films are being judged by these very unfair criteria. nostalgia has skewed the way people's perception on their favorite movies, when they used this indestructible skewed version to judge new entries of the franchise of course they were all garbage.
I really like the reverse hero arc of the trilogy that Kylo Ren had to complete his sith training by severing all his ties to the light side in the form seeking out his blood relatives and killing them one by one, that is an amazing idea and despite some hiccups it was most realized successfully. somehow the fans hated the last jedi because of the bold moves they took (Luke tempted by the dark side which causes Ben to fall, Kylo Ren join forces with Rey in the middle of trilogy to take down the supposedly end boss and became the end boss himself, Luke using his spirit form to fight Kylo Ren from afar) and hated it again for playing too safely this time around (the last arc is pretty much a conglomeration of all the best elements of recent disney successes in case you don't notice - rey's parentage - star lord, allies showing up to save the day - end game)
The thing that irks me about the new Star Wars movies (and I'm including Rogue One and Solo as well as 7, 8, and 9) is that they haven't really illicited any sort of emotional reaction from me when their characters succeed or fail, and I don't think it's because I'm just a heartless bastard now, I just don't think that the new movies do a good enough job of establishing their own characters, but instead keep thrusting nostalgia into my face, which is a shame because the cast of the new trilogy are all wonderful actors.
nothing personal, the tirade if that's how you perceived it was directed at the angry fans who are judging the new trilogy so reasonably harsh, may make a youtube video myself to rebuke all their unreasonable criticisms.