Who will be the BUST of the 2019 draft class?

[Ball4life32]

Sexton will get you 18 points on 16 shots, same amount of assists as turnovers and is really really bad defensively. Not a bust but he isn’t a winning player.

[King Ken]

not sure how we went from 19 to 18 where clearly Bamba,Knox and MPJ lead the pack for busts...so far anyway.
19 is another story yet to be written

I think it’s to early to write off Bamba since he was considered a project all along. But yes, he’s been pretty bad this season and that is cause for concern.

Knox was terrible last season but has improved quite a bit and is still only 20. He’s hitting 41% of his 3’s right now ans has shown improvement across the board.

And MPJ is coming off a major injury and has barely played. 72 career minutes at this point. How does that make him a bust? If he can stay healthy he’s going to be quite good but Denver always knew the risk and the patience involved with making this pick.

Anyways, you missed Jerome Robinson who is the worst of the lottery picks at this point but he was only the 13th pick. All in all, unless people are bailing early on Bamba the 2018 draft isn’t showing a clear bust at this point. And I’m not ready to bail on Bamba.

Year two is too early to call for a bust. Robinson shows flashes of being a rotational wing, he just needs to be more than a streaky shooter which will take time.

Knox and Sexton had awful rookie seasons but both have made improvements if you watch them play. I would not mark either as busts but I really have issues with Knox as more than an empty stats guy down the road. That's not a terrible thing, the Bulls are loaded with them but I don't know if it's a good thing either. We will see, development is key and they are both one and dones. It takes those guys time.

Bamba situation isn't ideal right now. Tough to say for him at this time. It was always going to take some time. He completely dominates lesser comp in year 2 so I am convinced it's just situation and still working on his body.

2019- I haven't seen any bust prospects yet. I know a lot of dumbasses who don't watch the Hawks will say Reddish but he is improving daily and has a very high pallet to work with. It will take time with him especially with his shooting and finishing flaws but he can be special sooner than later.

I am actually impressed with how polished 2019 is compared to 2018 overall. It doesn't have the Ayton, Luka, or Trae types but it has a lot of ready to go role players from both rounds.

2017 - Of the top 15 picks, The Jacksons look in trouble. Justin looks like he might be fighting to stay in the league and Josh sadly wasn't ready to work and went to a bad situation with a bad attitude and it killed what should have been a pretty good NBA career. Josh still has time to change his story but only time will tell.

[Stillwater]

Sexton will get you 18 points on 16 shots, same amount of assists as turnovers and is really really bad defensively. Not a bust but he isn’t a winning player.

if you're gonna critique a player at least get your story straight... he was bad defensively and is clearly much better after that being his main focus this off season
he is not chucking , he is not making errant passes ...he gets to the rack with speed, does well to take the right shot and is still learning how to play off ball and still he impactful. if you put the ball in his hands he could get you 25 a night at 50/40/90 or close to it ..without chucking. but that doesnt win games padding stats. they drafted garland to be the creator for others due to Sextons strength as a scorer and weaknesses as a distributor for sure.
Sexton is so far from his ceiling but has improved so much already im not sure how anyone paying attn could think he wont be an all nba player with the hunger this kid has far exceeding most athletes.

[Ball4life32]

Sexton will get you 18 points on 16 shots, same amount of assists as turnovers and is really really bad defensively. Not a bust but he isn’t a winning player.

if you're gonna critique a player at least get your story straight... he was bad defensively and is clearly much better after that being his main focus this off season
he is not chucking , he is not making errant passes ...he gets to the rack with speed, does well to take the right shot and is still learning how to play off ball and still he impactful. if you put the ball in his hands he could get you 25 a night at 50/40/90 or close to it ..without chucking. but that doesnt win games padding stats. they drafted garland to be the creator for others due to Sextons strength as a scorer and weaknesses as a distributor for sure.
Sexton is so far from his ceiling but has improved so much already im not sure how anyone paying attn could think he wont be an all nba player with the hunger this kid has far exceeding most athletes.

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

[Stillwater]

Sexton will get you 18 points on 16 shots, same amount of assists as turnovers and is really really bad defensively. Not a bust but he isn’t a winning player.

if you're gonna critique a player at least get your story straight... he was bad defensively and is clearly much better after that being his main focus this off season
he is not chucking , he is not making errant passes ...he gets to the rack with speed, does well to take the right shot and is still learning how to play off ball and still he impactful. if you put the ball in his hands he could get you 25 a night at 50/40/90 or close to it ..without chucking. but that doesnt win games padding stats. they drafted garland to be the creator for others due to Sextons strength as a scorer and weaknesses as a distributor for sure.
Sexton is so far from his ceiling but has improved so much already im not sure how anyone paying attn could think he wont be an all nba player with the hunger this kid has far exceeding most athletes.

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

[Ball4life32]

if you're gonna critique a player at least get your story straight... he was bad defensively and is clearly much better after that being his main focus this off season
he is not chucking , he is not making errant passes ...he gets to the rack with speed, does well to take the right shot and is still learning how to play off ball and still he impactful. if you put the ball in his hands he could get you 25 a night at 50/40/90 or close to it ..without chucking. but that doesnt win games padding stats. they drafted garland to be the creator for others due to Sextons strength as a scorer and weaknesses as a distributor for sure.
Sexton is so far from his ceiling but has improved so much already im not sure how anyone paying attn could think he wont be an all nba player with the hunger this kid has far exceeding most athletes.

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

I’d be absolutely shocked if he was. And I’ve been watching Sexton here in Georgia before he even blew up his Junior of HS. Those same concerns I had about him are coming to fruition. Will be a decent scorer on average efficiency & bad defense...ceiling is very good 6th man like Lou.

[Stillwater]

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

I’d be absolutely shocked if he was. And I’ve been watching Sexton here in Georgia before he even blew up his Junior of HS. Those same concerns I had about him are coming to fruition. Will be a decent scorer on average efficiency & bad defense...ceiling is very good 6th man like Lou.

your ceiling for him is his floor imo

[The_Hater]

if you're gonna critique a player at least get your story straight... he was bad defensively and is clearly much better after that being his main focus this off season
he is not chucking , he is not making errant passes ...he gets to the rack with speed, does well to take the right shot and is still learning how to play off ball and still he impactful. if you put the ball in his hands he could get you 25 a night at 50/40/90 or close to it ..without chucking. but that doesnt win games padding stats. they drafted garland to be the creator for others due to Sextons strength as a scorer and weaknesses as a distributor for sure.
Sexton is so far from his ceiling but has improved so much already im not sure how anyone paying attn could think he wont be an all nba player with the hunger this kid has far exceeding most athletes.

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

Why does his vision need to go beyond what he wrote? He stated his opinion and he backed it up with both reason and stats. Just because you have an opinion about him that is higher than that, and can’t be backed by current evidence, doesn’t make your opinion more correct.

You should realize that while you’re obviously all in on Sexton eventually becoming a great player, apparently you’re even guaranteeing it, he does have some obvious holes in his game right now that won’t be easy to fix. So you shouldn’t really be surprised when just about everyone else has a lower opinion on his future ceiling than you do. Have you even talked to more than 2 people on RGM who as high in Sexton as you?

[Stillwater]

Nothing I said was incorrect. He’s averaging 16.9 points on 14.8 shots a game for his career (43% FG) but somehow he’s a 25 a night guy on elite efficiency? In what world? He’s not a PG....that is correct and he can not guard SG’s. He’s improved but he’s still bad defensively and doesn’t create steals. And Garland supposed to be some distributor with a 3.3 assists / 2.2 turnover ratio in 28 mins a game.

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

Why does his vision need to go beyond what he wrote? He stated his opinion and he backed it up with both reason and stats. Just because you have an opinion about him that is higher than that, and can’t be backed by current evidence, doesn’t make your opinion more correct.

You should realize that while you’re obviously all in on Sexton eventually becoming a great player, apparently you’re even guaranteeing it, he does have some obvious holes in his game right now that won’t be easy to fix. So you shouldn’t really be surprised when just about everyone else has a lower opinion on his future ceiling than you do. Have you even talked to more than 2 people on RGM who as high in Sexton as you?

Then call it a hot take ...he will not fail he never quits the sky is the limit and that is the mantra of every successful athlete.

[The_Hater]

is that the limit of your vision?
just shut it down and watch who emerges from the pack. I guarantee you Sexton will be in the league 10 years from now and his name will be talked about as one of the most impressive slept on guards in league history.

Why does his vision need to go beyond what he wrote? He stated his opinion and he backed it up with both reason and stats. Just because you have an opinion about him that is higher than that, and can’t be backed by current evidence, doesn’t make your opinion more correct.

You should realize that while you’re obviously all in on Sexton eventually becoming a great player, apparently you’re even guaranteeing it, he does have some obvious holes in his game right now that won’t be easy to fix. So you shouldn’t really be surprised when just about everyone else has a lower opinion on his future ceiling than you do. Have you even talked to more than 2 people on RGM who as high in Sexton as you?

Then call it a hot take ...he will not fail he never quits the sky is the limit and that is the mantra of every successful athlete.

Hey, I’m not even saying that you’re going to be wrong about Sexton, we’ve seen enough NBA players exceed what most people think is a reasonable ceiling for that player. I’m a Raptor fan and have watching a bunch of guys exceed most people’s expectations the past 5-7 years.

Just realize that when your opinion on a players future is higher than everyone else, you’re not going to have many debates where you’re in full agreement with another opinion. And my personal opinion on Sexton is right in line with what I just read in this thread, I think he’s more Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford then Dame Lillard or Kyrie Irving. Prove me wrong Colin.

[Illmatic12]

Culver has been.. yikes . They traded up for him and the situation is not looking good
This clip is chilling, you can tell the announcer was trying not to say it but he couldn't hold back anymore

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[Curmudgeon]

Zion Williamson. Greg Oden 2.0.

[Marcus]

Culver has been.. yikes . They traded up for him and the situation is not looking good
This clip is chilling, you can tell the announcer was trying not to say it but he couldn't hold back anymore

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I've always liked that guy. doesn't hold back with his takes hardly ever homers unnecessarily.

[CalL]

I hate to say this, but both Bitadze and Doumbouya have been looking rather underwhelming so far. Especially for Doumbouya i had really high hopes ...

[Stillwater]

I hate to say this, but both Bitadze and Doumbouya have been looking rather underwhelming so far. Especially for Doumbouya i had really high hopes ...

sekou hasnt had much ops until just recently now that BG is on the lam... he will make a lot of mental mistakes against nba starters but his shooting stroke , athleticism and ability to learn on the fly are already showing why he was a highly regarded prospect

[clyde21]

I hate to say this, but both Bitadze and Doumbouya have been looking rather underwhelming so far. Especially for Doumbouya i had really high hopes ...

Doumbouya has been killing it lol

[GreatWhiteStiff]

speaking of (non)busts whens bolbol taking the league by storm clyde?

[The_Hater]

not sure how we went from 19 to 18 where clearly Bamba,Knox and MPJ lead the pack for busts...so far anyway.
19 is another story yet to be written

I think it’s to early to write off Bamba since he was considered a project all along. But yes, he’s been pretty bad this season and that is cause for concern.

Knox was terrible last season but has improved quite a bit and is still only 20. He’s hitting 41% of his 3’s right now ans has shown improvement across the board.

And MPJ is coming off a major injury and has barely played. 72 career minutes at this point. How does that make him a bust? If he can stay healthy he’s going to be quite good but Denver always knew the risk and the patience involved with making this pick.

Anyways, you missed Jerome Robinson who is the worst of the lottery picks at this point but he was only the 13th pick. All in all, unless people are bailing early on Bamba the 2018 draft isn’t showing a clear bust at this point. And I’m not ready to bail on Bamba.

Well 2 months later, the busts are becoming more clear. Knox has regressed back to his rookie numbers and looks like a bust. He’s pretty clueless imo. And Bamba hasn’t really shown he has what it takes either. He has some skill for a big man but also poor instincts and what looks like a poor BBall IQ. He’s got a very long way to go but I wouldn’t bet on him getting there.

At least Porter is showing signs of life down in Denver, hopefully he can still healthy.

[NotACat]

not sure how we went from 19 to 18 where clearly Bamba,Knox and MPJ lead the pack for busts...so far anyway.
19 is another story yet to be written

I think it’s to early to write off Bamba since he was considered a project all along. But yes, he’s been pretty bad this season and that is cause for concern.

Knox was terrible last season but has improved quite a bit and is still only 20. He’s hitting 41% of his 3’s right now ans has shown improvement across the board.

And MPJ is coming off a major injury and has barely played. 72 career minutes at this point. How does that make him a bust? If he can stay healthy he’s going to be quite good but Denver always knew the risk and the patience involved with making this pick.

Anyways, you missed Jerome Robinson who is the worst of the lottery picks at this point but he was only the 13th pick. All in all, unless people are bailing early on Bamba the 2018 draft isn’t showing a clear bust at this point. And I’m not ready to bail on Bamba.

Well 2 months later, the busts are becoming more clear. Knox has regressed back to his rookie numbers and looks like a bust. He’s pretty clueless imo. And Bamba hasn’t really shown he has what it takes either. He has some skill for a big man but also poor instincts and what looks like a poor BBall IQ. He’s got a very long way to go but I wouldn’t bet on him getting there.

At least Porter is showing signs of life down in Denver, hopefully he can still healthy.

Bamba has been a fine defender, but yea, his BBIQ is pretty poor. I think he'll still be a solid starter. I don't think he's being well utilized on offense right now.

Orlando has been using him as a screen and roll man, but he's a dreadful screener and isn't strong enough to body anyone in the paint. He's a below average 3pt shooter, but still spaces the floor out and has the ability to take other Cs off the dribble. I wish Orlando would use him as a popout player or have someone else set screens for him. At his current build, he's a perimeter player on offense.

They also regularly miss him on alley oop opportunities.

[clyde21]

Bamba for sure has been a disappointment especially for me since I was pretty big on the guy, I still have some hope he can get to where I thought he could but it's waning, the BBIQ is most def an issue right now for him

Knox was always bad tbh, Sexton isn't really any good either, at least not as a starter, Carter has been decent when he's played but there's always something wrong with him, Bridges bros both have been bad too tbh

i think the clear top 4 in the 18 class are Luka, JJJ, SGA and Trae, Ayton probably 5th