Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized

[youngcrev]

I wish Embiid would have shown some remorse by now. Not for offending KAT, but for his teammates and not being available these next 2 games. Every game matters this season. We should be aiming for home court in the Finals if we actually want to win while the league is wide open.

The team has doubled down on it as a team building thing. When your GM and coach back it, I think you just let it be. If anything I think he should apologize to KAT in private for some of the things he said.

2 games is nothing. Just think of it as part of his load management. He'll be at 76 minutes through 6 games of the season.

[spikeslovechild]

I am fine with what happened. Let Embiid be Embiid he's a modern Shaq he loves toying with guys on the court some laugh at it others take it personal but that is their problem.

The only thing I would be disappointed in if this kind of stuff happened in the playoffs but he's not dumb to the situation as we saw with Dudley and Siakam.

[76ciology]

Havent looked at the numbers. But embiid’s shooting and bullyball looks improved.

[Kobblehead]

The 16 footer has been automatic and is not something that he shot a lot last year. Embiid has unusually good touch but he's a poor three point shooter. So stepping inside the arc is a good move for him (Moreyball be damned).

[VDT]

I donnt think he is a bad shooter, even from the three point line. It is more like he has bad shot selection, he should stop shooting fadeaways or 3s when his feet are not set.

Still i am sceptical with him more perimeter oriented. It certainly helps with our spacing issues and makes his fit with Simmons and Horford a little bit better, but i have a hard time seeing how our offense would work in the playoffs. You need someone that you give him the ball and tell him to score or create for his teammates and i dont see a jump shooting Embiid being that guy consistently.

[phillynative]

The 16 footer has been automatic and is not something that he shot a lot last year. Embiid has unusually good touch but he's a poor three point shooter. So stepping inside the arc is a good move for him (Moreyball be damned).

He has always been a pretty good shooter from there with his feet set. Thats why i never understood why they never ran more pick and pop sets for him

[GeorgeMarcus]

Food for thought:
- The Sixers allowed 107 or less points in regulation 15 of 19 games this season; Embiid played in all of them.
- The Sixers allowed 111+ points in regulation the other 4 games; Embiid didn't play in any of them.

Average with Embiid: 98.9pts/regulation
Average without Embiid: 116.3pts/regulation

I say "regulation" because the OT game against OKC would have fudged the results. Pretty amazing stuff regardless. Some people need to ease up on the "eye test" assessment and recognize his glaring impact on this team. His on/off has been double-digit positive every season, and he's never been outscored in a playoff series. Last year he played 7 of 11 playoff games against the eventual Champs, in a series he looked like poop offensively, and somehow still put up a triple-digit positive +/-. Compared to the triple-digit negative +/- when he was off the court... Just amazing.

[76ciology]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

[phillynative]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

U hope for this not to be the case because if so we have reached our ceiling . If we have to turn embiid our best offensive player into a stretch 5 because our PG who is only a threat on the break refuse to take open shots than we lost .

[76ciology]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

U hope for this not to be the case because if so we have reached our ceiling . If we have to turn embiid our best offensive player into a stretch 5 because our PG who is only a threat on the break refuse to take open shots than we lost .

I hope you find peace in this holiday season

[phillynative]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

U hope for this not to be the case because if so we have reached our ceiling . If we have to turn embiid our best offensive player into a stretch 5 because our PG who is only a threat on the break refuse to take open shots than we lost .

I hope you find peace in this holiday season

You as well my guy.

[76ciology]

U hope for this not to be the case because if so we have reached our ceiling . If we have to turn embiid our best offensive player into a stretch 5 because our PG who is only a threat on the break refuse to take open shots than we lost .

I hope you find peace in this holiday season

You as well my guy.

[ConstableChaos]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

This.

Embiid is figuring out with Simmons rather than the other way round

Whatever Simmons' ceiling is as a shooter, he'll get left alone (maybe not in the corners) at the 3 pt line for the rest of his career. Ideally he stretches to the arc and lets JE wreck shop inside, but I can;t see it happening

[VDT]

The problem is that it is not optimal to have Embiid camp at the three point line. Unless they win the title or come very close to that i think it is likely that they will try to address this issue in the summer.

Even if they win though, i dont see Embiid accepting that role long term or Simmons accepting the need to become something that he is not and may be unable to become.

[Kobblehead]

Embiid progressing as a spacer will benefit him greatly longterm, regardless if he's paired with Ben Simmons or not. You want your two best players to be able to play on and off the ball and space while the other is working. If Embiid wants to contend for multiple championships during his career, he's going to need to be great off the ball so he can have great synergy with another star.

[VDT]

Being off the ball is different than setting camp at the three point line whenever Simmons is playing. What he is doing is unprecedent and shows how coachable he is, but long term it is not sustainable.

[76ciology]

There’s no hope in Ben’s jumper. The key for embiid and for the team is him developing a jumper, something ive wanted from him for the longest time. Be the grown man in the room and sacrifice your game for a larger cause.

Having a perimeter game also conserves his energy for defense and makes him less injury prone.

Recent Bucks game and that crazy game against the Raps in the playoffs are two of my ideal games for him.

This.

Embiid is figuring out with Simmons rather than the other way round

Whatever Simmons' ceiling is as a shooter, he'll get left alone (maybe not in the corners) at the 3 pt line for the rest of his career. Ideally he stretches to the arc and lets JE wreck shop inside, but I can;t see it happening

Another thing is, JE will face some bigs he can’t dominate like Gasol. And its best for him to have a diverse game.

Personally, I like JE favoring a perimeter game when Ben is on court then if he wants to post to get his numbers (believe me he wants to), he do it when Ben is off the court

[phillynative]

Being off the ball is different than setting camp at the three point line whenever Simmons is playing. What he is doing is unprecedent and shows how coachable he is, but long term it is not sustainable.

They want him to be Brook Lopez. But there is not a Giannis on this team to dominate.

[PennSports]

Joel can't win with these guys. He has to carry harder more now than ever, what an awful offseason.

Great job getting rid of his two best fits in Butler and JJ and paying Horford 100 million to be an insurance policy. THERE IS NO INSURANCE FOR EMBIID good job spending the budget Elton. It can be argued he has hurt this teams prospects more than Colangelo lol

[XDevilBoiX]

Joel can't win with these guys. He has to carry harder more now than ever, what an awful offseason.

Great job getting rid of his two best fits in Butler and JJ and paying Horford 100 million to be an insurance policy. THERE IS NO INSURANCE FOR EMBIID good job spending the budget Elton. It can be argued he has hurt this teams prospects more than Colangelo lol

I don’t think it’s all Elton, it’s the whole collaborative team including Brett making the decisions. Elton just holds the title to be the fall guy.

They need to clean house of everyone making personnel decisions.