Official Yankees Thread II (Alex Cora & AJ Hinch fired)

[zappafrank]

FEAR THE PINSTRIPE MAFIA!!!!

everyone knows there are no beards allowed in pinstripes.
he has to shave!

[Papi_swav]

So should we give it a shot and make an offer for Lindor?

[MaseInYourFace]

So should we give it a shot and make an offer for Lindor?

Kinda seems like overkill to me. I understand the need for some more lefty bats though.

[Papi_swav]

So should we give it a shot and make an offer for Lindor?

Kinda seems like overkill to me. I understand the need for some more lefty bats though.

Isn't he switch hitter? and Lindor is top 5 in the game right now and only 26. On his way to the HOF if he can continue playing like this for years to come. Imagine an infield of Lindor and Torres for a decade plus

[MaseInYourFace]

So should we give it a shot and make an offer for Lindor?

Kinda seems like overkill to me. I understand the need for some more lefty bats though.

Isn't he switch hitter? and Lindor is top 5 in the game right now and only 26. On his way to the HOF if he can continue playing like this for years to come. Imagine an infield of Lindor and Torres for a decade plus

Yeah he’s a switch but he would mostly hit left and you hear a few rumors about Yankees trying to get some more lefty bats in the lineup.

[Papi_swav]

Kinda seems like overkill to me. I understand the need for some more lefty bats though.

Isn't he switch hitter? and Lindor is top 5 in the game right now and only 26. On his way to the HOF if he can continue playing like this for years to come. Imagine an infield of Lindor and Torres for a decade plus

Yeah he’s a switch but he would mostly hit left and you hear a few rumors about Yankees trying to get some more lefty bats in the lineup.

He's perfect, fills some holes or places we're lacking. Top of the lineup batter, contact hitter, speed on the bases, high IQ player, one of the better gloves. I think the Yanks should put their chips up in my opinion. Not sure what it'll take to get it done but I think we should try, this is a tremendous talent.

[GEOLINK]

Indians will be asking for Gleyber in return.

[blue and orange]

Lindor sounds good to me problem is the Indians gotta agree to the deal too, wouldnt suprise if they were asking for Gleyber. Im glad Gardner is back but the team has to stop relying on him to play CF everyday as he gets a year older, he should be batting 9th and coming off the bench, I also wanna see Judge batting 3rd, perhaps bat Gleyber 2nd between DJ and Judge. For the most part our lineup was wearing pitchers down and got away from that late in the year. The Voit injury did hurt us in the playoffs when healthy he was batting .280 was good enough to be an allstar, a healthy Andujar should pay dividends as well. Clint either has to start in the outfield or be traded.

[blue and orange]

Hmm not sure about it. Hader is top notch reliever but I think Andujar would be one of the better DHs. If we trade Andujar, I rather it be in a big package for a stud, a guy like Lindor preferably, not a reliever which is already a strength .

I'd forget about Hader if it means losing Andujar, if they'll take Gio I'd do it, but they won't.

What I'd do is give Jordan Montgomery the 5th starters job, and have Domingo German be a more effective Betances. I think German can be dominant there and Betances' inability to hold baserunners was a big issue for me.

If Montgomery is back to form, he's a quality starter and another lefty in the rotation.

Forget Hader.

German won 18 games as a starter, why would we use him to be a reliever? He's proved he can pitch 5 plus innings consistently, Betances can't do that.

Gotta see how long his suspension will be, if we are stuck with Happ I would have Montgomery start the year in AAA, if someone blows away the 5th starter job, German could be a swing man out of the pen, and spot start here and there or even go with a 6 man rotation. If the situation calls for it and the top 4 pitch up to par then German could be used out of the pen in the playoffs, good position to be in.

With the Cole addition now all of the sudden you got a deep rotation and pen, everyone has been moved a notch down in the pecking order makes it so its much easier to use load management to save your best bullets for October, im still pissed at German btw F him.

[DowNY]

Indians will be asking for Gleyber in return.

They can ask. They can ask about Judge as well. Doesn’t mean we’d be dumb enough to do it. Gleyber isn’t a prospect anymore. Better off aiming for Andujar+.

[HarthorneWingo]

"Zips" at Fangraphs.com thinks the Mets with have the best bullpen in NYC in 2020. I'm a little shaky on that prediction, myself but then I began to think about your team's bullpen and, I have to say, I think you a use a bit of an upgrade there. Thoughts?

[Jalen Bluntson]

"Zips" at Fangraphs.com thinks the Mets with have the best bullpen in NYC in 2020. I'm a little shaky on that prediction, myself but then I began to think about your team's bullpen and, I have to say, I think you a use a bit of an upgrade there. Thoughts?

Betances is a nightmare with men on base. So...yeah...our bullpen is fine...yours...not sure. Who you got?

Mets need to worry about the Mets. The Yankees are fine.

[HarthorneWingo]

"Zips" at Fangraphs.com thinks the Mets with have the best bullpen in NYC in 2020. I'm a little shaky on that prediction, myself but then I began to think about your team's bullpen and, I have to say, I think you a use a bit of an upgrade there. Thoughts?

Betances is a nightmare with men on base. So...yeah...our bullpen is fine...yours...not sure. Who you got?

Mets need to worry about the Mets. The Yankees are fine.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. "Zips" and Fangraphs are the experts. Every really depends, like with every team, on who stays healthy, who has up years and who has down years. So, people are expecting/hoping that Diaz and Familiar have bounce back years, and there is reason optimism there; that Wilson and Lugo continue to do what they did last season. Then there's Betances, Gsellman, and Brad Brach. I suspect that either JD Davis, Cespedes and/or Dominic Smith will be moved for another good quality reliever since there's a glut in the OF.

Diaz
Betances
Wilson
Lugo
Familia
Brach
Gsellman
another quality arm? LOOGY?

Hey, that's not bad at all especially if Betances comes back healthy.

[Jalen Bluntson]

"Zips" at Fangraphs.com thinks the Mets with have the best bullpen in NYC in 2020. I'm a little shaky on that prediction, myself but then I began to think about your team's bullpen and, I have to say, I think you a use a bit of an upgrade there. Thoughts?

Betances is a nightmare with men on base. So...yeah...our bullpen is fine...yours...not sure. Who you got?

Mets need to worry about the Mets. The Yankees are fine.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. "Zips" and Fangraphs are the experts. Every really depends, like with every team, on who stays healthy, who has up years and who has down years. So, people are expecting/hoping that Diaz and Familiar have bounce back years, and there is reason optimism there; that Wilson and Lugo continue to do what they did last season. Then there's Betances, Gsellman, and Brad Brach. I suspect that either JD Davis, Cespedes and/or Dominic Smith will be moved for another good quality reliever since there's a glut in the OF.

Diaz
Betances
Wilson
Lugo
Familia
Brach
Gsellman
another quality arm? LOOGY?

Hey, that's not bad at all especially if Betances comes back healthy.

Betances has to learn to hold runmers. He's a nightmare with men on base in a close game. He does have a lightning arm though.

I'm just tawkin shyt to ya man. The Mets should be better this year but...they're the Mets.

[HarthorneWingo]

Betances is a nightmare with men on base. So...yeah...our bullpen is fine...yours...not sure. Who you got?

Mets need to worry about the Mets. The Yankees are fine.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. "Zips" and Fangraphs are the experts. Every really depends, like with every team, on who stays healthy, who has up years and who has down years. So, people are expecting/hoping that Diaz and Familiar have bounce back years, and there is reason optimism there; that Wilson and Lugo continue to do what they did last season. Then there's Betances, Gsellman, and Brad Brach. I suspect that either JD Davis, Cespedes and/or Dominic Smith will be moved for another good quality reliever since there's a glut in the OF.

Diaz
Betances
Wilson
Lugo
Familia
Brach
Gsellman
another quality arm? LOOGY?

Hey, that's not bad at all especially if Betances comes back healthy.

Betances has to learn to hold runmers. He's a nightmare with men on base in a close game. He does have a lightning arm though.

I'm just tawkin shyt to ya man. The Mets should be better this year but...they're the Mets.

That doesn't make any difference since Ramos can't throw any base-stealers out anyhow.

[GEOLINK]

I'm not too sad that Betance's extremely slow windup is gone. Teams were feasting on that with men on base.

[Rich Rane]

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[moocow007]

So should we give it a shot and make an offer for Lindor?

If the Yankees have no problem blowing away the luxury tax threshold then sure, absolutely.

But even with giving Cole that contract, and probably because of that contract, I can't see the Yankees being in a position to offer Lindor an extension now or a new contract in 2 years. Lindor is a better value than Rendon so we're talking more than the $30 million AAV Rendon signed up for. Then the Yankees have to worry about Judge (also in 2 years) and...yeah...I'm not emptying the farm for a 2 year rental of Lindor. And emptying the farm is what it's going to take for the Yankees to get him as there are other teams that likely would take that 2 year risk with better farm systems and better ML ready players to offer Cleveland.

If you empty the farm by trading for Lindor, it has to be with the notion that you're either going to extend him now (in excess of $30+ million per) or that you will do whatever it takes to resign him in 2 years.

Yes, Lindor is exactly the type of player in pretty much just about everyway that could push this Yankees juggernaut into "God" level. He's a lefty. He gets on base. He'll have a field day with the short porch in right. He's fiery and competitive. He can run and beat you on the bases. He's a gold glove defender at the hardest position to play. He's only 25. Lindor is arguably a top 5 position player in the majors right now...a true 5-tool major league proven all world talent with the charisma and personality perfectly suited for the spotlight but the Yankees don't need him that desperately and unless they are willing to commit to a long term relationship, it's just not worth it IMO.

[moocow007]

"Zips" at Fangraphs.com thinks the Mets with have the best bullpen in NYC in 2020. I'm a little shaky on that prediction, myself but then I began to think about your team's bullpen and, I have to say, I think you a use a bit of an upgrade there. Thoughts?

Betances is a nightmare with men on base. So...yeah...our bullpen is fine...yours...not sure. Who you got?

Mets need to worry about the Mets. The Yankees are fine.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. "Zips" and Fangraphs are the experts. Every really depends, like with every team, on who stays healthy, who has up years and who has down years. So, people are expecting/hoping that Diaz and Familiar have bounce back years, and there is reason optimism there; that Wilson and Lugo continue to do what they did last season. Then there's Betances, Gsellman, and Brad Brach. I suspect that either JD Davis, Cespedes and/or Dominic Smith will be moved for another good quality reliever since there's a glut in the OF.

Diaz
Betances
Wilson
Lugo
Familia
Brach
Gsellman
another quality arm? LOOGY?

Hey, that's not bad at all especially if Betances comes back healthy.

Diaz looked like the bullpen version of Sonny Gray last season (i.e. shell shocked by playing in NY). Not sure that that's something you can recover from. Betances hasn't really really pitched in over a year and it may take him some time to get back into the groove assuming the stuff is still even there (and that's with that impingement which he's going to have to deal with going forward as well as declining velocity). Juery's Familia was basically Diaz lite (not in a good way) wasn't he? Lugo, Brach, Gselleman I would not trust in high leverage situations. Honestly I don't know what you can trust any of these relievers. Wilson is probably the least volatile and, as a result, the most dependable and we're talking about a guy who's been sort of the 7th inning guy for most of his career. So yeah I don't know if I'd want to bank anything on this gaggle of relievers. Yes, IF Betances returns to form he's clearly the best reliever in the pen. You not only get a guy that has arguably been one of the best relievers in baseball with just pure nasty stuff when he's on, but one that you know can actually pitch in NY in high pressure/leverage situations...and likely with a chip on (not in) his shoulder on what basically is a 1-year "prove it" contract.

[Ray Williams]

German to miss the first 63 games of the season, looks like it’s Montgomery’s job to lose.