Future draft classes

No-Man · Post #1921 » by **No-Man** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:16 pm

Nah the issue with Green is that he does not really know how to play

clyde21 · Post #1922 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:20 pm

Fischella wrote:Nah the issue with Green is that he does not really know how to play

defensively yes, offensively he's a monster.

Post #1923 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:these are my top6 guys for the 21 class right now

Kuminga
Mobley
Cade
Green
Garuba
Todd

that's a pretty damn strong 6 IMO if things hold up.

thought Kuminga said he wasn't reclassing?

clyde21 · Post #1924 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:40 pm

Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:these are my top6 guys for the 21 class right now

Kuminga
Mobley
Cade
Green
Garuba
Todd

that's a pretty damn strong 6 IMO if things hold up.

thought Kuminga said he wasn't reclassing?

you're right, completely forgot, thanks.

Post #1925 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:46 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:these are my top6 guys for the 21 class right now

Kuminga
Mobley
Cade
Green
Garuba
Todd

that's a pretty damn strong 6 IMO if things hold up.

thought Kuminga said he wasn't reclassing?

you're right, completely forgot, thanks.

I do what i do for you and the people

so you got Mobley number one?

clyde21 · Post #1926 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:47 pm

Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
thought Kuminga said he wasn't reclassing?

you're right, completely forgot, thanks.

I do what i do for you and the people

so you got Mobley number one?

yea in that case Mobley is #1

this is probably a good thing, too much talent was at the top, good to spread it out to 22.

No-Man · Post #1927 » by **No-Man** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm

I don't get the Todd love, he is largely fine, but just that, fine, if he were that skilled and had real stud size I'd buy in more

He is just a guy

Post #1928 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:55 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
you're right, completely forgot, thanks.

I do what i do for you and the people

so you got Mobley number one?

yea in that case Mobley is #1

this is probably a good thing, too much talent was at the top, good to spread it out to 22.

yeah i think he identified that and said the same. If the OAD rule goes away as expected all he'd really have to compete with in 22 would be Bates at the moment.

Post #1929 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:58 pm

Fischella wrote:I don't get the Todd love, he is largely fine, but just that, fine, if he were that skilled and had real stud size I'd buy in more

He is just a guy

there is skill there just not much in terms of identity so i get what you're saying. If he could lock in and say "this is what i am" as an archetype then it would be easier to go all in for some but the kid is skilled. Good size for a faceup four, can handle, shoot, his passing is solid. Can be better at bigman things if he isn't going to be a 3 in the league. But i wouldn't say there isn't skill there to work with and possibly build from.

clyde21 · Post #1930 » by **clyde21** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:02 pm

Fischella wrote:I don't get the Todd love, he is largely fine, but just that, fine, if he were that skilled and had real stud size I'd buy in more

He is just a guy

disagree, he is quite skilled, legit 3 level scorer, can put the ball on the floor, pretty good passing big and not just the open pass but can actually create, even has some pull up ability to his game.

also not sure what u mean by stud size, he's a true 4 IMO and he's gonna come in at 6-10 and at least a 7-1 or 7-2 wingspan, that's plenty fine for the 4.

No-Man · Post #1931 » by **No-Man** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:41 pm

Yeah we disagree,I think he is a Center

Post #1932 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:02 pm

Fischella wrote:Yeah we disagree,I think he is a Center

based on what you've seen or what you want him to be?

No-Man · Post #1933 » by **No-Man** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:30 pm

Not sure he is actually skilled enough for a PF

Post #1934 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:58 pm

Fischella wrote:Not sure he is actually skilled enough for a PF

what aspect do you think he's missing?

Post #1935 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:58 pm

What's your guys thoughts on Patrick Baldwin? Looks like a legit 6'10 now and is a legit sharp shooter. Not sure he has the length or athleticism to be a great NBA guy though.

Post #1936 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:06 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:What's your guys thoughts on Patrick Baldwin? Looks like a legit 6'10 now and is a legit sharp shooter. Not sure he has the length or athleticism to be a great NBA guy though.

from what I've seen he's pretty solid, good height and a jumper but yeah i'm with you on not quite knowing what he is at the NBA level. He'll hit the league but i don't think he's staying in front of or banging with anyone at either of the positions he would potentially play. A potential Ant Tolliver type i guess as it currently stands. Need more time to see how he develops though.

Post #1937 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:08 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:What's your guys thoughts on Patrick Baldwin? Looks like a legit 6'10 now and is a legit sharp shooter. Not sure he has the length or athleticism to be a great NBA guy though.

Re-can't on that Ant Tolliver take, maybe more along the lines of Marvin Williams.

Post #1938 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:10 pm

Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:What's your guys thoughts on Patrick Baldwin? Looks like a legit 6'10 now and is a legit sharp shooter. Not sure he has the length or athleticism to be a great NBA guy though.

from what I've seen he's pretty solid, good height and a jumper but yeah i'm with you on not quite knowing what he is at the NBA level. He'll hit the league but i don't think he's staying in front of or banging with anyone at either of the positions he would potentially play. A potential Ant Tolliver type i guess as it currently stands. Need more time to see how he develops though.

Ya I kind of have a Trey Lyles feeling with him. I think he's a better player than Lyles at the same stage and the better shooter. But I feel like he can face the same issues Lyles has faced in the league which has prevented him from being a consistent rotation player. Doesn't have the quickness or strength to consistently create space and doesn't have the length or athleticism to be an impactful defender.

Post #1939 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:15 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:What's your guys thoughts on Patrick Baldwin? Looks like a legit 6'10 now and is a legit sharp shooter. Not sure he has the length or athleticism to be a great NBA guy though.

from what I've seen he's pretty solid, good height and a jumper but yeah i'm with you on not quite knowing what he is at the NBA level. He'll hit the league but i don't think he's staying in front of or banging with anyone at either of the positions he would potentially play. A potential Ant Tolliver type i guess as it currently stands. Need more time to see how he develops though.

Ya I kind of have a Trey Lyles feeling with him. I think he's a better player than Lyles at the same stage and the better shooter. But I feel like he can face the same issues Lyles has faced in the league which has prevented him from being a consistent rotation player. Doesn't have the quickness or strength to consistently create space and doesn't have the length or athleticism to be an impactful defender.

Trey is a good one too but there can be a niche for those types if they're in the right situation. Baldwin could be a Bertans in the right spot perhaps.

Justwar · Post #1940 » by **Justwar** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:15 pm

Paolo over Todd easy