Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

[dirkules_41]

I hear there is interest for Vucevic. Not sure how certain is this but Vooch is likely not on the block. Not sure what the magic will get of value from Dallas. Maybe is something like Gordon and Vooch for Porzingis and Clee. I like Porzingis in Dallas and Gordon and Vooch will be too much

Not a chance that Dallas trades Porzingis unless he fist fights Cuban, Carlisle, or Doncic

I reckon he'd have to fight all three for that to happen

[dakomish23]

What kind of sucks is if you knew going into FA that you’d end up staying over the cap, DAL could have facilitated the MIA deal with the TPE and gotten a solid piece in Harkless and the 1st to pair with Lee to go get another guy. Would have capped off a very productive FA. Didn’t get the stars but got good role players who compliment your cornerstones.

Hindsight is 20-20.

[dakomish23]

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

[ejs78]

Hes been sneaking back into the Nets rotation, but prolly could be had.

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell.

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

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[DJ_3_Ball]

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell...

Imagine the Mavs take Bogdanovic & Holmes off of the Kings' hands, after they missed on Doncic & we scooped the generational talent in that draft.

Kings' fans might literally burn the Golden 1 Center to the ground

[DJ_3_Ball]

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

Kurocs is intriguing as a player, but he's even more interesting given he's likely more attainable than any other player mentioned in this thread. I think it's fair to wonder if the Nets might be shopping him. Next year, with a healthy Durant, Kurocs' role will be very limited. He's not play well so far this year (it's funny how jerking a player around with their minutes, tends to effect their performance), and he has the domestic case pending. Plenty of reasons for the Nets to let him go for pennies on the dollar.

[dakomish23]

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

Kurocs is intriguing as a player, but he's even more interesting given he's likely more attainable than any other player mentioned in this thread. I think it's fair to wonder if the Nets might be shopping him. Next year, with a healthy Durant, Kurocs' role will be very limited. He's not play well so far this year (it's funny how jerking a player around with their minutes, tends to effect their performance), and he has the domestic case pending. Plenty of reasons for the Nets to let him go for pennies on the dollar.

If it wasn’t for all these injuries, he’d be out of the rotation. LeVert KD. Who knows who they sign in FA / draft / trade for. They still have assets to use.

The GSW 2nd might be a slight overpay at the moment but a different 2nd might get it done.

[dirkforpres]

Hes been sneaking back into the Nets rotation, but prolly could be had.

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell.

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

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I’d love one, or both of them but really what do we have that actually helps Sacramento out? Expiring contracts don’t really mean much in this trade since Holmes and Bog both have extremely team friendly deals, the Kings aren’t going to be a free agent destination this summer, and Dallas doesn’t have any picks other than 2nd rounders

I’m not sure Lee, Jackson, Powell, and the GSW pick really do anything for them

[Bluelabel24]

Hes been sneaking back into the Nets rotation, but prolly could be had.

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell.

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

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I’d love one, or both of them but really what do we have that actually helps Sacramento out? Expiring contracts don’t really mean much in this trade since Holmes and Bog both have extremely team friendly deals, the Kings aren’t going to be a free agent destination this summer, and Dallas doesn’t have any picks other than 2nd rounders

I’m not sure Lee, Jackson, Powell, and the GSW pick really do anything for them

what do you think of a Bogdanovic for Curry straight up?( sorry, already posted it on another thread).. Curry is on a very good contract that they could deal themselves down the road. And of course for this to work i think Bogi and his agent has to help by saying he wants to sign in Dallas long term to avoid other potential teams trading for him.. Theres also some rumors that Lakers(since they are in win now mode) might be willing to trade Kuzma for him which would be a much better deal for Sac.
I hope Curry + something could get it done.
really impressed by what Bogdanovic brings to the table. Dude is also clutch and when locked in can be a great defender.

[DJ_3_Ball]

Hes been sneaking back into the Nets rotation, but prolly could be had.

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell.

It’s a gamble given the court issues, Kurocs might be a nice long term fit. Only 21. Value is in the tank.

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I’d love one, or both of them but really what do we have that actually helps Sacramento out? Expiring contracts don’t really mean much in this trade since Holmes and Bog both have extremely team friendly deals, the Kings aren’t going to be a free agent destination this summer, and Dallas doesn’t have any picks other than 2nd rounders

I’m not sure Lee, Jackson, Powell, and the GSW pick really do anything for them

With Bogdanovic, it's about do they want to pay him or not? Fox comes due in '21, Holmes is an UFA in '21 and so is Bjelica, then Bagley comes due in '22. IF the Kings give Bogdanovic, let's say $72 mil over 4 years (personally, I think due to the sparse FA class this summer, somebody will give him more. ATL could easily price the Kings out of the picture), but even at that $18 mil a year, it would make it hard for SAC to pay the other 3.

They signed Hield to a de-escalating contract. They must have an idea of how they're going to manage those dollars in the future.

Now, maybe they say Bjelica is the odd man out, but if they do feel Bogdanovic is the 5th man on that list, then getting anything back for him is better than losing him for nothing in FA this summer. And, if the Mavs were to offer something like Jalen Brunson & a future 1st round pick, then SAC has to decide is resigning Bogdanovic better than Bjelica + Brunson + a future 1st? Sending an offer could make the Kings re-think how they have those players evaluated.

[dirkforpres]

Hes been sneaking back into the Nets rotation, but prolly could be had.

Fox and Bagley have both left tonight's game and the season for them could just be snake bitten. Really don't care what THJ does Bogdanovic is an upgrade and Holmes kills Powell.

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I’d love one, or both of them but really what do we have that actually helps Sacramento out? Expiring contracts don’t really mean much in this trade since Holmes and Bog both have extremely team friendly deals, the Kings aren’t going to be a free agent destination this summer, and Dallas doesn’t have any picks other than 2nd rounders

I’m not sure Lee, Jackson, Powell, and the GSW pick really do anything for them

what do you think of a Bogdanovic for Curry straight up?( sorry, already posted it on another thread).. Curry is on a very good contract that they could deal themselves down the road. And of course for this to work i think Bogi and his agent has to help by saying he wants to sign in Dallas long term to avoid other potential teams trading for him.. Theres also some rumors that Lakers(since they are in win now mode) might be willing to trade Kuzma for him which would be a much better deal for Sac.
I hope Curry + something could get it done.
really impressed by what Bogdanovic brings to the table. Dude is also clutch and when locked in can be a great defender.

The problem with any trade is that the Mavs won’t want it to affect any cap space for a max contract offer in 2021.. so whether it’s Bog or Holmes, they’d be coming with the likely assumption of not being re-signed (or at least taking a major discount to do so). As far as the straight up swap, I’d say yes simply because Bogdanovic is bigger and younger

[Bluelabel24]

maybe something like this would be enticing for all teams involved
Dallas gets:
Bogdanovic
Giles

Lakers gets:
Curry
Justin Jackson

Sacramento gets:
Kuzma
Bradley

Lakers are in dire need of shooting and definitely in win now mode so they might be willing to let Kuzma go.
i dont watch kuzma a ton but seems he is like THJ in the sense that hes either on or off.

[ejs78]

Dedmon has requested a trade out of Sacramento.

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[DJ_3_Ball]

maybe something like this would be enticing for all teams involved
Dallas gets:
Bogdanovic
Giles

Lakers gets:
Curry
Justin Jackson

Sacramento gets:
Kuzma
Bradley

Lakers are in dire need of shooting and definitely in win now mode so they might be willing to let Kuzma go.
i dont watch kuzma a ton but seems he is like THJ in the sense that hes either on or off.

I think that actually has a chance of working (provided all of these teams are interested in making a deal, which we don't know).

I don't think the Mavs get Giles. The Bogdanovic side is already heavily loaded. I don't think the Kings get Kuzma without giving up more. I don't think the Lakers are giving up Bradley. That's their starting PG. Something like this might work though.

Dallas receives:
Bogdanovic
Talen Horton-Tucker

Lakers receive:
Seth Curry
Broekhoff
Bjelica

Sacramento receives:
Kuzma
Isaiah Roby
DAL 2020 2nd round (from GSW)


Also, Kuzma has been very sporadic this season, but he was injured in the pre-season. Plus, his whole team changed & a new coach. He was far more consistent in his first 2 seasons in the league (he also had a more defined role).

[ejs78]

If we've learned any thing being Mavs fans and from players ( Jimmy Butler) is cap space really is overrated. If a player wants to be some where it will happen.

I’d love one, or both of them but really what do we have that actually helps Sacramento out? Expiring contracts don’t really mean much in this trade since Holmes and Bog both have extremely team friendly deals, the Kings aren’t going to be a free agent destination this summer, and Dallas doesn’t have any picks other than 2nd rounders

I’m not sure Lee, Jackson, Powell, and the GSW pick really do anything for them

what do you think of a Bogdanovic for Curry straight up?( sorry, already posted it on another thread).. Curry is on a very good contract that they could deal themselves down the road. And of course for this to work i think Bogi and his agent has to help by saying he wants to sign in Dallas long term to avoid other potential teams trading for him.. Theres also some rumors that Lakers(since they are in win now mode) might be willing to trade Kuzma for him which would be a much better deal for Sac.
I hope Curry + something could get it done.
really impressed by what Bogdanovic brings to the table. Dude is also clutch and when locked in can be a great defender.

The problem with any trade is that the Mavs won’t want it to affect any cap space for a max contract offer in 2021.. so whether it’s Bog or Holmes, they’d be coming with the likely assumption of not being re-signed (or at least taking a major discount to do so). As far as the straight up swap, I’d say yes simply because Bogdanovic is bigger and younger

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[daoneandonly]

Covington would be awesome, if only we had the pieces to get him. A starting 5 of Luka/THJ/RoCo/DFS/Porz could make some noise

[Teffer10]

Covington would be awesome, if only we had the pieces to get him. A starting 5 of Luka/THJ/RoCo/DFS/Porz could make some noise

Covington would be awesome but I agree it would be difficult to trade for him.

Marcus Morris and Jae Crowder would be two players I'd love to add to our roster.
Both give us some strength and toughness for a PO run.
If we could add the two of them with some combination of Lee, Jackson, Broekoff, Roby, TPE and 2nd Rd picks I'd say we need to do it.

[dirkforpres]

If we've learned any thing being Mavs fans and from players ( Jimmy Butler) is cap space really is overrated. If a player wants to be some where it will happen.

what do you think of a Bogdanovic for Curry straight up?( sorry, already posted it on another thread).. Curry is on a very good contract that they could deal themselves down the road. And of course for this to work i think Bogi and his agent has to help by saying he wants to sign in Dallas long term to avoid other potential teams trading for him.. Theres also some rumors that Lakers(since they are in win now mode) might be willing to trade Kuzma for him which would be a much better deal for Sac.
I hope Curry + something could get it done.
really impressed by what Bogdanovic brings to the table. Dude is also clutch and when locked in can be a great defender.

The problem with any trade is that the Mavs won’t want it to affect any cap space for a max contract offer in 2021.. so whether it’s Bog or Holmes, they’d be coming with the likely assumption of not being re-signed (or at least taking a major discount to do so). As far as the straight up swap, I’d say yes simply because Bogdanovic is bigger and younger

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Different situations entirely. Guys like Jimmy Butler and Paul George are tradable, which is why they’ve been dealt twice (or 3 times in Jimmy’s case). Giannis is absolutely untradeable though, as the Bucks would never get fair value for him if he ever wanted out. Only way he ever leaves is by signing elsewhere in UFA

[ejs78]

If we've learned any thing being Mavs fans and from players ( Jimmy Butler) is cap space really is overrated. If a player wants to be some where it will happen.

The problem with any trade is that the Mavs won’t want it to affect any cap space for a max contract offer in 2021.. so whether it’s Bog or Holmes, they’d be coming with the likely assumption of not being re-signed (or at least taking a major discount to do so). As far as the straight up swap, I’d say yes simply because Bogdanovic is bigger and younger

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Different situations entirely. Guys like Jimmy Butler and Paul George are tradable, which is why they’ve been dealt twice (or 3 times in Jimmy’s case). Giannis is absolutely untradeable though, as the Bucks would never get fair value for him if he ever wanted out. Only way he ever leaves is by signing elsewhere in UFA

We've seen AD traded to LA in the last year. If a player wants to go somewhere it's going to happen. Bron also was traded to Miami.

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[dirkforpres]

If we've learned any thing being Mavs fans and from players ( Jimmy Butler) is cap space really is overrated. If a player wants to be some where it will happen.

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Different situations entirely. Guys like Jimmy Butler and Paul George are tradable, which is why they’ve been dealt twice (or 3 times in Jimmy’s case). Giannis is absolutely untradeable though, as the Bucks would never get fair value for him if he ever wanted out. Only way he ever leaves is by signing elsewhere in UFA

We've seen AD traded to LA in the last year. If a player wants to go somewhere it's going to happen. Bron also was traded to Miami.

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Lebron wasn’t traded. The AD situation is also different because the Lakers had a plethora of assets to deal for AD. Hypothetically, let’s say Giannis re-signs in Milwaukee and a year later says “I want to play for Dallas”... We have next to nothing in the way of assets (not counting KP or Luka, since they’ll never trade them) that would come anywhere close to the price tag the Bucks would be asking for. Unless Brunson becomes a borderline all star level player, there is an almost 0% chance a trade for Giannis ever happens