Tatum and Brown, as 1-2 Options

[5InOfLouisville]

To me it’s clear as day. Tatum is the one with a chance to be a superstar and he is already showing he can be #1 option. Brown is excelling in his role as third banana. I don’t think you would want him to be a #1 even on a bad team. Brown is killing it as a 3 and D guy and bringing even more to the table than that while Tatum is still struggling as he adapts to role as teams best player.

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I think people are overrating JBs 10-13 performances and underrating Jaylen’s 5-18 ones.

come on now. He has had quite a few more strong games than poor ones. You can count the stinkers on one hand. Obviously you rate what is becoming the norm more than what seems to be becoming more and more of an aberration.

i agree that he needs to improve his consistency. but he is. hopefully it continues.

[TommyPointGawd]

How many times has JB gone 5-18???

[sam_I_am]

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I think people are overrating JBs 10-13 performances and underrating Jaylen’s 5-18 ones.

come on now. He has had quite a few more strong games than poor ones. You can count the stinkers on one hand. Obviously you rate what is becoming the norm more than what seems to be becoming more and more of an aberration.

i agree that he needs to improve his consistency. but he is. hopefully it continues.

I meant Tatum’s 5-18 games. Even when Tatum has an off game he can still a difference maker because he draws so much attention.

Anyway, I’m a huge fan of both players and want to see both locked up for a long time.

[Jaqua92]

Yup Tatum's pretty bad
JB and JT are cornerstones for the team with the 3rd best record and 3rd best point differential in the league.
Two years ago they were our leading scorers through three rounds of the playoffs.
Best part is I don't think they care what others think, they've got confidence and work ethic.

Kemba and Hayward are the superior players. Even with JT's night tonight.

That said, JT is showing signs of taking the next step and he will probably be this team's best player next year. He needs to play within himself.

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Let's get that message to him ASAP. Or let him continue to expand his game, seems like a good idea.
Meanwhile and unfortunately Hayward's approaching late career Bill Walton territory, so we kind of need 23-year-old JB and 19-year-old JT to play like total studs, which they are.

JB has been very impressive. I do like that Tatum's approach to the game has changed. He's not settling for those terrible low percentage mid-range shots nearly as much. I'm in total agreement about his future. But as of right now, I just can't look past his low field goal percentage and his inconsistent offensive nights yet.

41% shooting at 20ppg isn't wowing me, and he's had multiple games where he's made no more than 5 shots. He's shown flashes, like tonight, like a few games ago. He's a future all NBA player, hopefully. But he's not there yet, imo he isn't really close either. Two or three years he will be, but right now, he's just a tad bit inconsistent.

Once he's scoring 24+ ppg on 46%+ shooting, I think he will be that stud we've waited for. His defense is solid. Playmaking improving. He'll get there. He just isn't there yet.

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[Big Joke Line]

To me it’s clear as day. Tatum is the one with a chance to be a superstar and he is already showing he can be #1 option. Brown is excelling in his role as third banana. I don’t think you would want him to be a #1 even on a bad team. Brown is killing it as a 3 and D guy and bringing even more to the table than that while Tatum is still struggling as he adapts to role as teams best player.

Theres a chance this is how it ends up for sure, but I'm not sure why exactly Brown can't be a superstar. The only thing Tatum can do right now that Brown cant is that step-back/side-step three. Everything else they are fairy comparable. And Brown has certainly improved a lot since his rookie year. Tatum is younger which obviously helps him, but three years from now if Brown is the better player it wouldn't surprise me and It wouldn't necessarily mean Tatum was a disappointment just that Brown is really good.

I don’t want to project the future because who is to say how good someone can get when they are improving at the rate JB has so far. I never said Jaylen can’t continue to grow as a scorer and playmaker or be the better overall player some day. But some day is not today.

I think people are overrating JBs 10-13 performances and underrating Tatum’s 5-18 ones. Clearly JB had an amazing game and Jayson had one of his poorest. However, Tatum is taking on a much more difficult role. He is being asked to be the first option and attack the defense aggressively and it is for the betterment of the team and not selfish at all. Yes he is struggling and needs to get better but I think Jaylen would too. If Jaylen were asked to be first option and to initiate offense I think he would turn it over too much without being nearly as big of a threat to score every time like Tatum and Kemba. It’s not just Brad’s offense because it was true in FIBA games too.

I do think it is true right now that Jaylen is enjoying more success as a McHale than Jason is trying to be a Bird.

How do you overrate 10-13 unless it’s all in the paint? No one is saying he’s Jordan.

[OldCeltics]

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Lets get Brown/Tatum/Walker/Hayward in there

[31to6]

Kemba and Hayward are the superior players. Even with JT's night tonight.

That said, JT is showing signs of taking the next step and he will probably be this team's best player next year. He needs to play within himself.

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Let's get that message to him ASAP. Or let him continue to expand his game, seems like a good idea.
Meanwhile and unfortunately Hayward's approaching late career Bill Walton territory, so we kind of need 23-year-old JB and 19-year-old JT to play like total studs, which they are.

JB has been very impressive. I do like that Tatum's approach to the game has changed. He's not settling for those terrible low percentage mid-range shots nearly as much. I'm in total agreement about his future. But as of right now, I just can't look past his low field goal percentage and his inconsistent offensive nights yet.

41% shooting at 20ppg isn't wowing me, and he's had multiple games where he's made no more than 5 shots. He's shown flashes, like tonight, like a few games ago. He's a future all NBA player, hopefully. But he's not there yet, imo he isn't really close either. Two or three years he will be, but right now, he's just a tad bit inconsistent.

Once he's scoring 24+ ppg on 46%+ shooting, I think he will be that stud we've waited for. His defense is solid. Playmaking improving. He'll get there. He just isn't there yet.

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well keep us posted when you are ready to say Tatum's surpassed Hayward as a player, tx

[bucknersrevenge]

Kemba and Hayward are the superior players. Even with JT's night tonight.

That said, JT is showing signs of taking the next step and he will probably be this team's best player next year. He needs to play within himself.

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Let's get that message to him ASAP. Or let him continue to expand his game, seems like a good idea.
Meanwhile and unfortunately Hayward's approaching late career Bill Walton territory, so we kind of need 23-year-old JB and 19-year-old JT to play like total studs, which they are.

JB has been very impressive. I do like that Tatum's approach to the game has changed. He's not settling for those terrible low percentage mid-range shots nearly as much. I'm in total agreement about his future. But as of right now, I just can't look past his low field goal percentage and his inconsistent offensive nights yet.

41% shooting at 20ppg isn't wowing me, and he's had multiple games where he's made no more than 5 shots. He's shown flashes, like tonight, like a few games ago. He's a future all NBA player, hopefully. But he's not there yet, imo he isn't really close either. Two or three years he will be, but right now, he's just a tad bit inconsistent.

Once he's scoring 24+ ppg on 46%+ shooting, I think he will be that stud we've waited for. His defense is solid. Playmaking improving. He'll get there. He just isn't there yet.

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And he's ONLY 21 years old. I mean, you have to keep reminding yourself with this kid. He's barely legal age. Just imagine where he's gonna be in another couple of years.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Feed Your Head]

GerogeMarcus said it on the GB, but Tatums path to becoming a superstar is pretty different than most were expecting lol. From a guy who was known as a guy who can only score and play okay defense to a legitimate two way monster.

Think peak Jayson could be a 26-27/8/4 guy with elite defense. I wouldn't be shocked if Jaylen was a 25/7/3 guy with very good defense himself, I'm long done questioning how good he can become, his fluidity, awareness, and vision have taken a massive leap the last few weeks.

[Braindesign]

I certainly hope some of you begin to realize very soon that the J's should be 1A and 1B scoring options with Kemba 3rd and Hayward 4th.

The team is better off with Kemba and Hayward focusing on playmaking and finding the J's in space.

If you don't see that, then you really don't understand basketball all too well.

I also think a certain poster should take the early chance at saving face and admit he was wrong about Browns contract. These performances of late will become the norm and not the exception.

[Tatumfor2]

Several people mentioned how good we would be if Kemba was our 3rd best player. It was also mentioned that we would be championship level if only he was our 4th best player. Well, I'm not saying we're there, but it's not even the Allstar break yet...

[Slax]

I also think a certain poster should take the early chance at saving face and admit he was wrong about Browns contract. These performances of late will become the norm and not the exception.

Jeez all right fine, I admit it, I was wrong about the contract. Jaylen *will* probably win MVP and receive that $8M incentive I said was impossible for him to get. Are you happy now??

[zoyathedestroya]

I also think a certain poster should take the early chance at saving face and admit he was wrong about Browns contract. These performances of late will become the norm and not the exception.

Jeez all right fine, I admit it, I was wrong about the contract. Jaylen *will* probably win MVP and receive that $8M incentive I said was impossible for him to get. Are you happy now??

PRO TIP: Argue both sides and jump the fence every time the other side "wins". You'll have low credibility and integrity, but you'll never be wrong.

[zoyathedestroya]

Fun Fact (I never run out): When Celtics reached the ECF in 2002, Pierce (age 24) and Walker (age 25) each averaged 22+ ppg in the regular season. Their third highest scorer (who played at least half the season) was Kenny Anderson at a whopping 9.6 ppg.

Jaylen and Jayson are each currently averaging 20.7+ ppg. Let's just say Kemba is averaging more than Kenny right now.

[Floody100]

Cave’s been awfully quiet lately

[TommyPointGawd]

Cave’s been awfully quiet lately

Waiting for a bad game

[Braindesign]

Cave’s been awfully quiet lately

He's working on his next great tank take.

With Smart out with pink eye and Haywards ongoing health issues, I'm sure he thinks we'd be better off not trying to win so many games. Perfect opportunity to feature Langford and Williams in the starting lineup

[Feed Your Head]

Multiple peope calling out Cave is lame, at least he will quote the people he argues with.

I do think he is selling the improvements Jaylen has made short though lol. But I am pretty confident he will come around.

[Braindesign]

Multiple peope calling out Cave is lame, at least he will quote the people he argues with.

I do think he is selling the improvements Jaylen has made short though lol. But I am pretty confident he will come around.

You edited your post. You initially said he's been right more often than he's been wrong on the end there.

Maybe so, but has ever taken his plate of Crow and admitted when he's been wrong? Not that I've seen