2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1)

[TheScout31]

Man I do not care for LeMelo. Like his brother he can only play in full court pushing the ball, his half court game is dead to go along with his shooting, but unlike his brother he doesn't know when to quit like shooting 20% from 3 is ok. I'll take Anthony Edwards. Cole, or RJ over him any day. Actually I'm really not feeling any of them so if the Knicks decide to trade the pick I'm down for once.

That's 100% not true. The ONLY ways he's like his brother are the weird form, frame, and passing up in transition. LaMelo's footwork is way better (though his shot is crap), his touch is great on floaters/runners, and he's a MUCH better passer in the halfcourt than Lonzo.

I'm not high on him and think those who like him should probably watch more Killian Hayes' tape, if they can find it (yay for me), because he's an elite passer as well but his shot isn't broken.

[Fat]

Lamelo - high risk , high reward
Cole- medium risk, high reward
Nico- Low risk, good reward (lower upside)
Haliburton- Low risk, good reward (Unpredictable upside)

That’s how I look at each of them

I feel most comfortable taking nico mannion out of any of these point guards but Would probably gamble on lamelo if the pick ended up in the top 3. I think you almost have too.

[RHODEY]

Lamelo - high risk , high reward
Cole- medium risk, high reward
Nico- Low risk, good reward (lower upside)
Haliburton- Low risk, good reward (Unpredictable upside)

That’s how I look at each of them

I feel most comfortable taking nico mannion out of any of these point guards but Would probably gamble on lamelo if the pick ended up in the top 3. I think you almost have too.

How do you feel about Wiseman and Edwards?

[Fat]

Lamelo - high risk , high reward
Cole- medium risk, high reward
Nico- Low risk, good reward (lower upside)
Haliburton- Low risk, good reward (Unpredictable upside)

That’s how I look at each of them

I feel most comfortable taking nico mannion out of any of these point guards but Would probably gamble on lamelo if the pick ended up in the top 3. I think you almost have too.

How do you feel about Wiseman and Edwards?

Best two players in the draft to me. Yes even playing 3 measly games I feel wiseman still goes 1 or 2. This draft doesn’t seem to exactly have franchise changers at least nobody convincingly has set that type of tone. Those two might be the closes to having that type of talent.

[RHODEY]

Lamelo - high risk , high reward
Cole- medium risk, high reward
Nico- Low risk, good reward (lower upside)
Haliburton- Low risk, good reward (Unpredictable upside)

That’s how I look at each of them

I feel most comfortable taking nico mannion out of any of these point guards but Would probably gamble on lamelo if the pick ended up in the top 3. I think you almost have too.

How do you feel about Wiseman and Edwards?

Best two players in the draft to me. Yes even playing 3 measly games I feel wiseman still goes 1 or 2. This draft doesn’t seem to exactly have franchise changers at least nobody convincingly has set that type of tone. Those two might be the closes to having that type of talent.

So Low risk high reward? .....The Wiseman assessments have been all over the ball park.

[Fat]

How do you feel about Wiseman and Edwards?

Best two players in the draft to me. Yes even playing 3 measly games I feel wiseman still goes 1 or 2. This draft doesn’t seem to exactly have franchise changers at least nobody convincingly has set that type of tone. Those two might be the closes to having that type of talent.

So Low risk high reward? .....The Wiseman assessments have been all over the ball park.

I’d say medium risk, high reward he could end up being just a athletic pick and roll big / shot blocker but I think he lives up to his potential or respectively close to it. Can you really turn down a guy with similar measurements as embiid and also has long term potential as a shooter with defensive impact. In those 3 games he also converted on 19/27 free throws which is also encouraging as far as his touch goes.

[robillionaire]

Man I do not care for LeMelo. Like his brother he can only play in full court pushing the ball, his half court game is dead to go along with his shooting, but unlike his brother he doesn't know when to quit like shooting 20% from 3 is ok. I'll take Anthony Edwards. Cole, or RJ over him any day. Actually I'm really not feeling any of them so if the Knicks decide to trade the pick I'm down for once.

That's 100% not true. The ONLY ways he's like his brother are the weird form, frame, and passing up in transition. LaMelo's footwork is way better (though his shot is crap), his touch is great on floaters/runners, and he's a MUCH better passer in the halfcourt than Lonzo.

I'm not high on him and think those who like him should probably watch more Killian Hayes' tape, if they can find it (yay for me), because he's an elite passer as well but his shot isn't broken.

On Hayes I’ve only seen highlights, are the turnovers a concern? assist/turnover ratio not the best. Everything else about him seems solid

[Mecca]

In my opinion, LaMelo is the most exciting player in this draft. I just wish the shot wasn’t so damn ugly.

Definitely highest ceiling IMO but the lowest floor out of the top prospects. Would be by far the riskiest pick to make at the top of the draft but would be worth it if it pans out because the other dudes are just average to me.

I dont think ive been less excited about the top of a draft in a long while.

Trade the pick in all honesty.

You know I'm with you bro. How I see it, RJ isn't a franchise-changing player, so I want to swing for fences if we pick top 3-4. Edwards, LaMelo, Cole have the upside. If we drop to pick 5-7, I probably take Haliburton or maybe even Maxey.


If we get pick #3 and GSW gets pick 6, I'm definitely game to trade down and get DLo in a package.

[robillionaire]

We probably should wait until the trade deadline is over to even assume the Knicks still have this pick

[TheScout31]

Man I do not care for LeMelo. Like his brother he can only play in full court pushing the ball, his half court game is dead to go along with his shooting, but unlike his brother he doesn't know when to quit like shooting 20% from 3 is ok. I'll take Anthony Edwards. Cole, or RJ over him any day. Actually I'm really not feeling any of them so if the Knicks decide to trade the pick I'm down for once.

That's 100% not true. The ONLY ways he's like his brother are the weird form, frame, and passing up in transition. LaMelo's footwork is way better (though his shot is crap), his touch is great on floaters/runners, and he's a MUCH better passer in the halfcourt than Lonzo.

I'm not high on him and think those who like him should probably watch more Killian Hayes' tape, if they can find it (yay for me), because he's an elite passer as well but his shot isn't broken.

On Hayes I’ve only seen highlights, are the turnovers a concern? assist/turnover ratio not the best. Everything else about him seems solid

Forces a few passes here and there, and gets careless with the ball on occasion (in HC not using body to shield crowding defender, offensive foul, dribble off foot or just lose handle), but it's not like he's making horrible decisions with the ball.

He's an 18 year old playing lead G overseas (and doing a damn good job, to be honest); the turnovers aren't a big concern for me (yet?) - defense is a bigger issues, but he has + size and shows flashes.

[newyorker4ever]

Lamelo - high risk , high reward
Cole- medium risk, high reward
Nico- Low risk, good reward (lower upside)
Haliburton- Low risk, good reward (Unpredictable upside)

That’s how I look at each of them

I feel most comfortable taking nico mannion out of any of these point guards but Would probably gamble on lamelo if the pick ended up in the top 3. I think you almost have too.

Ugh, i'm so sad that we have to put our hopes in Perry and Mills to get this draft pick right, shyt i'm sad that we have to put our hopes that they'll get any of free agency, trades and draft right.

I'f we're picking 3-4-5 then i wouldn't mind a trade down but staying in the lottery while still getting Mannion in the lottery and picking up an additional draft pick. But you need creative people in charge that could pull off a move like that to get that done and........................................

[semjazy]

That's 100% not true. The ONLY ways he's like his brother are the weird form, frame, and passing up in transition. LaMelo's footwork is way better (though his shot is crap), his touch is great on floaters/runners, and he's a MUCH better passer in the halfcourt than Lonzo.

I'm not high on him and think those who like him should probably watch more Killian Hayes' tape, if they can find it (yay for me), because he's an elite passer as well but his shot isn't broken.

On Hayes I’ve only seen highlights, are the turnovers a concern? assist/turnover ratio not the best. Everything else about him seems solid

Forces a few passes here and there, and gets careless with the ball on occasion (in HC not using body to shield crowding defender, offensive foul, dribble off foot or just lose handle), but it's not like he's making horrible decisions with the ball.

He's an 18 year old playing lead G overseas (and doing a damn good job, to be honest); the turnovers aren't a big concern for me (yet?) - defense is a bigger issues, but he has + size and shows flashes.

What about his position? I heard opinions that he's not neccessary lead guard and should play more off ball in NBA, even though based on highlights I've seen he plays with ball in his hands

[newyorker4ever]

We probably should wait until the trade deadline is over to even assume the Knicks still have this pick

How dare you...

[TheScout31]

On Hayes I’ve only seen highlights, are the turnovers a concern? assist/turnover ratio not the best. Everything else about him seems solid

Forces a few passes here and there, and gets careless with the ball on occasion (in HC not using body to shield crowding defender, offensive foul, dribble off foot or just lose handle), but it's not like he's making horrible decisions with the ball.

He's an 18 year old playing lead G overseas (and doing a damn good job, to be honest); the turnovers aren't a big concern for me (yet?) - defense is a bigger issues, but he has + size and shows flashes.

What about his position? I heard opinions that he's not neccessary lead guard and should play more off ball in NBA, even though based on highlights I've seen he plays with ball in his hands

He is primarily a lead G, but, in time, assuming the C&S numbers go up*, he can play off ball a bit - he's done a nice job cutting off ball this year, but he's not running floppy or off double pindowns hard for C&S; it'd be more basic movement shooting.

* The C&S numbers SHOULD go up because he has great touch, awesome FT shooter, solid form (though it has to be raised a bit), and he's already a good off the bounce shooter. Just off the top of my head, his percentiles on Synergy & weird shooting off ball is a bit similar to Herro - he was a killer off the bounce (high 80s, maybe?) but C&S numbers were low (60s, I think).

[robillionaire]

I’ll be honest, I probably won’t spend much effort studying Hayes because I think there’s a 0% chance that the Knicks take him under any circumstance due to the outcome of the last French mystery guard they selected. I just don’t see them doing it again any time soon

[3toheadmelo]

I really want Wiseman or Edwards the most. Still a big fan of Nico and a couple of other players but Wiseman and Edwards have the most star potential imo and that’s what the Knicks need.

[Duke4life831]

In my opinion, LaMelo is the most exciting player in this draft. I just wish the shot wasn’t so damn ugly.

Definitely highest ceiling IMO but the lowest floor out of the top prospects. Would be by far the riskiest pick to make at the top of the draft but would be worth it if it pans out because the other dudes are just average to me.

I dont think ive been less excited about the top of a draft in a long while.

Trade the pick in all honesty.

Best case scenario is a front office falls in love with the LaMelo hype and you trade away the pick to them. This is the ideal draft to trade away and hopefully get a unprotected pick for either of the following 2 drafts.

[Worst_to_First]

I really want Wiseman or Edwards the most. Still a big fan of Nico and a couple of other players but Wiseman and Edwards have the most star potential imo and that’s what the Knicks need.

Wiseman for me is both the safest pick and the guy with the highest ceiling, which is something rare when it comes to draft classes. I am sure there are translatable parts of his game to the NBA and there is scope for upside to his offensive repertoire.

Definitely taking him at #1.

[HarthorneWingo]

In my opinion, LaMelo is the most exciting player in this draft. I just wish the shot wasn’t so damn ugly.

Definitely highest ceiling IMO but the lowest floor out of the top prospects. Would be by far the riskiest pick to make at the top of the draft but would be worth it if it pans out because the other dudes are just average to me.

I dont think ive been less excited about the top of a draft in a long while.

Trade the pick in all honesty.

Best case scenario is a front office falls in love with the LaMelo hype and you trade away the pick to them. This is the ideal draft to trade away and hopefully get a unprotected pick for either of the following 2 drafts.

Tomorrow, 6 p.m. Get ready for the pain.

[Duke4life831]

Definitely highest ceiling IMO but the lowest floor out of the top prospects. Would be by far the riskiest pick to make at the top of the draft but would be worth it if it pans out because the other dudes are just average to me.

I dont think ive been less excited about the top of a draft in a long while.

Trade the pick in all honesty.

Best case scenario is a front office falls in love with the LaMelo hype and you trade away the pick to them. This is the ideal draft to trade away and hopefully get a unprotected pick for either of the following 2 drafts.

Tomorrow, 6 p.m. Get ready for the pain.

The Derryck Thornton revenge game!!!