Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[KGtabake]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

[MagicBagley18]

Getting a 23 year old wing averaging 21-7-2 on 62% TS [also with 4 years left], an all-NBA defense and analytics darling PG and a Lotto pick is a haul.

it’s still Jaylen brown tho and my point was that while that may be our haul there are teams out there who can offer some really great deals as well

Phoenix scares me here— could see them offering everything except Booker [like Ayton and multiple unprotected picks]

Yea they were one of the team I thought ab as well. No to mention with 4 years left some team could literally trade for him and if he’s disgruntled or it doesn’t work- flip him again with 2 years left on his deal and recoup a good amount of what went out.

Either way I don’t see him really becoming available until next years deadline unless he publicly demands out

[MagicBagley18]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

Brown/smart/Memphis pick and fillers to match salary for me. I think AD is much more of a difference maker bc he plays both sides of the court. No way I’m losing Tatum and brown for kat. I’d gladly deal brown tho

[Feed Your Head]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

Are you implying you'd trade Tatum and Jaylen for Towns?

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The goal is to pair Tatum and Towns, Tatum has already become a top 20 player at 21 years old. Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick is a HAUL for Minny.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Gotta be as ruthless as Trader Dan. If we have to trade our favorite Celtics players for marginal improvements, then so be it. I'm gonna miss Semi and Vinnie, but this trade is just too hard to pass up.



A starting five of Doncic-Brown-Tatum-Giannis-Davis with Kemba as sixth man could maybe make it past the 2nd round if things break right. Giannis's back is a concern. So is AD's injury history. Doncic is also not known for his defense. Stevens will just have to make it work. Estimated tax bill for 2021-2022: $6 billion.

Doncic should be 6th man til he works on defence. I think Dallas needs to throw a pick our way to even up that trade too.

[KGtabake]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

Are you implying you'd trade Tatum and Jaylen for Towns?

Watch on YouTube

The goal is to pair Tatum and Towns, Tatum has already become a top 20 player at 21 years old. Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick is a HAUL for Minny.

You don't get KAT without including Tatum. Forget it.
OKC alone can offer SVA/Gallinari/tons of 1st rounders. No team has leverage on Minny for a franchise player on a 4 year contract still away from his prime.

[Feed Your Head]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

Are you implying you'd trade Tatum and Jaylen for Towns?

Watch on YouTube

The goal is to pair Tatum and Towns, Tatum has already become a top 20 player at 21 years old. Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick is a HAUL for Minny.

You don't get KAT without including Tatum. Forget it.
OKC alone can offer SVA/Gallinari/tons of 1st rounders. No team has leverage on Minny for a franchise player on a 4 year contract still away from his prime.

You absolutely could get him without Tatum lol. The only way he gets moved is if he basically forces his way out, which does hurt the Wolves leverage. And that OKC deal is pretty crappy, Shai is very good, similar tier prospect as Jaylen, a 31 year old who can't stay on the court in Gallo, and some middle 1st round picks? The Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick offer is easily better. Plus that doesnt make sense for OKC anyways.

The Suns offering Ayton and unprotected picks is a much more realistic possibility, and would be better than that Celtics package.

[KGtabake]

Are you implying you'd trade Tatum and Jaylen for Towns?

Watch on YouTube

The goal is to pair Tatum and Towns, Tatum has already become a top 20 player at 21 years old. Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick is a HAUL for Minny.

You don't get KAT without including Tatum. Forget it.
OKC alone can offer SVA/Gallinari/tons of 1st rounders. No team has leverage on Minny for a franchise player on a 4 year contract still away from his prime.

You absolutely could get him without Tatum lol. And that OKC deal is pretty crappy, Shai, a 31 year old who can't stay on the court, and some middle 1st round picks? The Jaylen/Smart/Grizz pick offer is easily better. Plus that doesnt make sense for OKC anyways.

The Suns offering Ayton and unprotected picks is a much more realistic possibility, and would be better than that Celtics package.

SVA alone might be the best PG of the next decade, a franchise player on his own right.
The 31 year old is a big expiring contract. 4-5 picks even "middle" are a lot of picks.
I agree that Suns package is also better. And we can add other teams as well. That's why Boston needs to have every name available(unless we think that any of Brown/Tatum is on KAT's level so we should simply pass)

[Feed Your Head]

You don't get KAT without including Tatum. Forget it.
OKC alone can offer SVA/Gallinari/tons of 1st rounders. No team has leverage on Minny for a franchise player on a 4 year contract still away from his prime.

You absolutely could get him without Tatum lol. And that OKC deal is pretty crappy, Shai, a 31 year old who can't stay on the court, and some middle 1st round picks? The Jaylen/Smart/Grizz pick offer is easily better. Plus that doesnt make sense for OKC anyways.

The Suns offering Ayton and unprotected picks is a much more realistic possibility, and would be better than that Celtics package.

SVA alone might be the best PG of the next decade, a franchise player on his own right.
The 31 year old is a big expiring contract. 4-5 picks even "middle" are a lot of picks.
I agree that Suns package is also better. And we can add other teams as well. That's why Boston needs to have every name available(unless we think that any of Brown/Tatum is on KAT's level so we should simply pass)

I don't really see SGA as a PG, i agree that he is a great prospect though. An expiring is useless for Minny, they are already screwed with cap because of Wiggins contract. And 4-5 middle picks don't have a ton of value, you want quality over quantity in the case of rebuilding. That deal is absolutely not better than the above trade with Jaylen.

I'm notorious on here for always telling people that deals aren't realistic because they don't want to give up enough, but i fully believe that they could do it without Tatum, in the event that Towns did try to force his way out. Celtics wouldn't do it with Tatum anyways, they expect him to he a top 10 player. He already isn't too far off from that already.

[KGtabake]

You absolutely could get him without Tatum lol. And that OKC deal is pretty crappy, Shai, a 31 year old who can't stay on the court, and some middle 1st round picks? The Jaylen/Smart/Grizz pick offer is easily better. Plus that doesnt make sense for OKC anyways.

The Suns offering Ayton and unprotected picks is a much more realistic possibility, and would be better than that Celtics package.

SVA alone might be the best PG of the next decade, a franchise player on his own right.
The 31 year old is a big expiring contract. 4-5 picks even "middle" are a lot of picks.
I agree that Suns package is also better. And we can add other teams as well. That's why Boston needs to have every name available(unless we think that any of Brown/Tatum is on KAT's level so we should simply pass)

I don't really see SGA as a PG, i agree that he is a great prospect though. An expiring is useless for Minny, they are already screwed with cap because of Wiggins contract. And 4-5 middle picks don't have a ton of value, you want quality over quantity in the case of rebuilding. That deal is absolutely not better than the above trade with Jaylen.

I'm notorious on here for always telling people that deals aren't realistic because they don't want to give up enough, but i fully believe that they could do it without Tatum, in the event that Towns did try to force his way out. Celtics wouldn't do it with Tatum anyways, they expect him to he a top 10 player. He already isn't too far off from that already.

In this case, if 1 of those 4-5 middle picks ends up like kawhi, giannis(or even butler) you win the trade.
You can use some of those picks on projects like them(since it's a rebuild and not a reshape and you're not contending)
On this case i think that quantity=quality and i would be willing to risk it. It's a lot of picks.
Ofc if Boston gets KAT without letting 1 of Brown/tatum go, it's a huge win.
We're talking about the timberwolves. The team that used 2 lottery picks on point guards right before Steph.

edited: both of them

[Feed Your Head]

SVA alone might be the best PG of the next decade, a franchise player on his own right.
The 31 year old is a big expiring contract. 4-5 picks even "middle" are a lot of picks.
I agree that Suns package is also better. And we can add other teams as well. That's why Boston needs to have every name available(unless we think that any of Brown/Tatum is on KAT's level so we should simply pass)

I don't really see SGA as a PG, i agree that he is a great prospect though. An expiring is useless for Minny, they are already screwed with cap because of Wiggins contract. And 4-5 middle picks don't have a ton of value, you want quality over quantity in the case of rebuilding. That deal is absolutely not better than the above trade with Jaylen.

I'm notorious on here for always telling people that deals aren't realistic because they don't want to give up enough, but i fully believe that they could do it without Tatum, in the event that Towns did try to force his way out. Celtics wouldn't do it with Tatum anyways, they expect him to he a top 10 player. He already isn't too far off from that already.

In this case, if 1 of those 4-5 middle picks ends up like kawhi, giannis(or even butler) you win the trade.
You can use some of those picks on projects like them(since it's a rebuild and not a reshape and you're not contending)
On this case i think that quantity=quality and i would be willing to risk it. It's a lot of picks.
Ofc if Boston gets KAT without letting 1 of Brown/tatum go, it's a huge win.
We're talking about the timberwolves. The team that used 2 lottery picks on point guards right before Steph.

The Flynn pick is one of the worst in nba history lol.

[KGtabake]

I don't really see SGA as a PG, i agree that he is a great prospect though. An expiring is useless for Minny, they are already screwed with cap because of Wiggins contract. And 4-5 middle picks don't have a ton of value, you want quality over quantity in the case of rebuilding. That deal is absolutely not better than the above trade with Jaylen.

I'm notorious on here for always telling people that deals aren't realistic because they don't want to give up enough, but i fully believe that they could do it without Tatum, in the event that Towns did try to force his way out. Celtics wouldn't do it with Tatum anyways, they expect him to he a top 10 player. He already isn't too far off from that already.

In this case, if 1 of those 4-5 middle picks ends up like kawhi, giannis(or even butler) you win the trade.
You can use some of those picks on projects like them(since it's a rebuild and not a reshape and you're not contending)
On this case i think that quantity=quality and i would be willing to risk it. It's a lot of picks.
Ofc if Boston gets KAT without letting 1 of Brown/tatum go, it's a huge win.
We're talking about the timberwolves. The team that used 2 lottery picks on point guards right before Steph.

The Flynn pick is one of the worst in nba history lol.

The worst in history.
TWO lottery picks on point guards and none of them was on (possibly) the greatest pg when all is said and done.
omg...imagine being a wolves fan lol

[MagicBagley18]

Last season i was against a tatum/brown/picks for AD trade for the sole reason he didn't seem to enjoy playing in Boston and he wouldn't resign.
But KAT has 4 more years.
Even if you believe that AD>>>KAT, that detail on contract makes every offer for him a must imo.
He's better than all our youngsters by a comfortable margin. He's the franchise player we need and he has the star status to match Gianni's and Embiid's superstardom on a team with Boston's history and tradition(+marketability).
Getting the superstar for years is the difficult part. Surrounding him with talent is easier imo.
Every player on the roster and every assett should be on the table.

Are you implying you'd trade Tatum and Jaylen for Towns?

Watch on YouTube

The goal is to pair Tatum and Towns, Tatum has already become a top 20 player at 21 years old. Jaylen/Smart/RW3/Grizz pick is a HAUL for Minny.

You don't get KAT without including Tatum. Forget it.
OKC alone can offer SVA/Gallinari/tons of 1st rounders. No team has leverage on Minny for a franchise player on a 4 year contract still away from his prime.

Gallinari is a free agent next year so he wouldn’t be apart of a deal. Kat isn’t going anywhere this season.

[100proof]

You dont trade for KAT if it includes tatum or brown imo.

You need to build complete teams to win, and that trio, all very young, playing for 10 years together, would be deadly

[Floody100]

As much as I would love KAT here there’s no way I’m trading Tatum or Brown, way too excited for what these two can do together in the future.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Im not dealing Tatum for KAT— I’m not even sure I’d argue that KAT is better than Tatum. Would absolutely trade Brown for him though.

[MagicBagley18]

You dont trade for KAT if it includes tatum or brown imo.

You need to build complete teams to win, and that trio, all very young, playing for 10 years together, would be deadly

I’ll drive Jaylen to the airport and pack his bags if we get kat and don’t have to include Tatum

[Feed Your Head]

Im not dealing Tatum for KAT— I’m not even sure I’d argue that KAT is better than Tatum. Would absolutely trade Brown for him though.

So much this, i really dont think people understand just how close Tatum is to being a legitimate top 10/15 player. He's 5th in RPM, 12th in PIPM, 13th in RAPTOR, and as you pointed out im the Tatum/Jaylen thread, that's with his career percentages on corner threes and at the basket flukishly low, though the correction has started this month. And i know people will say "guys like Christian Wood/Donte DiVincenzo rank really high by advanced stats. But use common sense, if you're a high usage guy and still rank that high across the board, it's for a reason.

Pairing him and Towns would be amazing. I love Jaylen, even if im not as high on him as some...but yeah you trade him for Towns in a god damn heartbeat.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Im not dealing Tatum for KAT— I’m not even sure I’d argue that KAT is better than Tatum. Would absolutely trade Brown for him though.

So much this, i really dont think people understand just how close Tatum is to being a legitimate top 10/15 player. He's 5th in RPM, 12th in PIPM, 13th in RAPTOR, and as you pointed out im the Tatum/Jaylen thread, that's with his career percentages on corner threes and at the basket flukishly low, though the correction has started this month. And i know people will say "guys like Christian Wood/Donte DiVincenzo rank really high by advanced stats. But use common sense, if you're a high usage guy and still rank that high across the board, it's for a reason.

The advanced stats measure how impactful you are in your role. Tatum’s role is as a 1b scorer and impactful defender, which make the advanced +/- metric much more meaningful.

Im not trading him for anything short of a top 5 player.

To your edit: I love Jaylen. Ive defended him a ton. But you trade him for a guy like KAT without thinking twice. Full agree here.

[5InOfLouisville]

I like to think that i am moderately high on jb...but it you can get KAT....you have to consider it. in fact... if you can get kat for tatum...im not sure, but i dont think its as crazy as some others here might. I at least think about it