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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1441 » by MemphisX » Thu Jan 2, 2020 7:43 am

Fischella wrote:Okoro is not staying, guaranteed 1st rounder

But I'd not pick him that high, he could be a total 0 on offense, and the lowest pick Memphis may have is 6th, I am not taking that risk that high

If you trade down sure

I think Memphis strongest need is another wing player who can actually be a dynamic offensive player, basically a star on the wing

Weems is an obvious stay in school


Agreed but I don't think one is available in this draft or if there is it isn't as obvious pre-draft.
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Post#1442 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 2, 2020 7:47 am

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Fischella wrote:Okoro is not staying, guaranteed 1st rounder

But I'd not pick him that high, he could be a total 0 on offense, and the lowest pick Memphis may have is 6th, I am not taking that risk that high

If you trade down sure

I think Memphis strongest need is another wing player who can actually be a dynamic offensive player, basically a star on the wing

Weems is an obvious stay in school


Agreed but I don't think one is available in this draft or if there is it isn't as obvious pre-draft.

Well it sure is not Okoro who can't shoot or score really at the moment
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Post#1443 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 8:02 am

Okoro's shooting has dropped dramatically recently, if it continues to drop he's not leaving, he'll pull an Okeke....even his FT shooting is down to the low 60s now
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Post#1444 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:36 pm

Okoro should still come out regardless no? Weak draft class and he is one of the few wings who will draw interest in the lottery. Next year a much deeper class , and will be a year older so teams won’t make as many excuses for him if the offense still isn’t there.

Okeke tore his ACL and dropped out of the lottery (got lucky Orl even took a chance on him at #16) so that could be even more impetus for Okoro to bounce and secure the nba bag . .
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Post#1445 » by shakes0 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:54 pm

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Fischella wrote:If I had to pick only one team as the best plausible/logical match for top7 consensus-ish prospects it'd go like this

Anthony Edwards, Atlanta
LaMelo Ball, Cleveland
Cole Anthony, Washington
Nico Mannion, NY
Deni Avdija, Golden St.

James Wiseman, Charlotte
Tyrese Haliburton, Memphis

I do not have Wiseman and Haliburton there, a tad below, but still

Tyrese Maxey, Onyeka Okongwu would be mine, and I'd pick Memphis or Minnesota for Maxey and Charlotte, like with Wiseman, for Okongwu


In Memphis, there is a big need for a strong physical defensive wing. I think Okoro is the perfect fit in Memphis. I also like Romeo Weems maybe in the 2nd.



Weems is a 4 year college player. At least he should be. He's been extremely underwhelming this season and especially in big games.
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Post#1446 » by Marcus » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:56 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Okoro should still come out regardless no? Weak draft class and he is one of the few wings who will draw interest in the lottery. Next year a much deeper class , and will be a year older so teams won’t make as many excuses for him if the offense still isn’t there.

Okeke tore his ACL and dropped out of the lottery (got lucky Orl even took a chance on him at #16) so that could be even more impetus for Okoro to bounce and secure the nba bag . .


i'm with you. if there is a prospect with any inclination to leave and get a possible first round slot this year i'd say take the first thing smoking off that campus. No need lumping yourself in with next year's class at essentially any position outside of PG and even that's iffy with the depth the league in general has at the position. If these kids can go i say go, bet on yourself and the growth in your game whilst under NBA tutelage not at school where the training won't be as beneficial.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1447 » by Marcus » Thu Jan 2, 2020 6:57 pm

Fischella wrote:
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Fischella wrote:Okoro is not staying, guaranteed 1st rounder

But I'd not pick him that high, he could be a total 0 on offense, and the lowest pick Memphis may have is 6th, I am not taking that risk that high

If you trade down sure

I think Memphis strongest need is another wing player who can actually be a dynamic offensive player, basically a star on the wing

Weems is an obvious stay in school


Agreed but I don't think one is available in this draft or if there is it isn't as obvious pre-draft.

Well it sure is not Okoro who can't shoot or score really at the moment


Mentioned Jaden McDaniels in the rookie thread on the GB as a pick for Memphis this year. What are your thoughts on that fit?
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Post#1448 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 7:00 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Okoro should still come out regardless no? Weak draft class and he is one of the few wings who will draw interest in the lottery. Next year a much deeper class , and will be a year older so teams won’t make as many excuses for him if the offense still isn’t there.

Okeke tore his ACL and dropped out of the lottery (got lucky Orl even took a chance on him at #16) so that could be even more impetus for Okoro to bounce and secure the nba bag . .


Okeke still went 17 despite tearing his ACL...that's as safe as you can get if you're Okoro lol

also next years draft looks really good at the top but the depth is tbd.
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Post#1449 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 2, 2020 7:05 pm

Okeke went 17th because he agreed to get stashed for a year

Also Okeke is really good and it made sense to pick him that high, Okoro is about the same level of prospect in a worse class, he should come out

As far as Jaden, Memphis will either have a top6 pick or no pick whatsoever and I am not even considering McDaniels that high, so no thanks

They need a real wing, Jaden is not skilled or athletic enough to play the 3 imo
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Post#1450 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 8:12 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:Okoro should still come out regardless no? Weak draft class and he is one of the few wings who will draw interest in the lottery. Next year a much deeper class , and will be a year older so teams won’t make as many excuses for him if the offense still isn’t there.

Okeke tore his ACL and dropped out of the lottery (got lucky Orl even took a chance on him at #16) so that could be even more impetus for Okoro to bounce and secure the nba bag . .


Okeke still went 17 despite tearing his ACL...that's as safe as you can get if you're Okoro lol

also next years draft looks really good at the top but the depth is tbd.

I see Okoro getting looks in the lottery. Doesn’t make sense for him not to come out this year.. there are enough FOs our there who tend to reach on that mold of prospect. Won’t drop past Boston if their Memphis pick conveys, hes the exact type of prospect Ainge likes.
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Post#1451 » by GimmeDat » Thu Jan 2, 2020 10:49 pm

I feel like Okeke had a much more established offensive skillset, no?
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Post#1452 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 11:14 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:Okoro should still come out regardless no? Weak draft class and he is one of the few wings who will draw interest in the lottery. Next year a much deeper class , and will be a year older so teams won’t make as many excuses for him if the offense still isn’t there.

Okeke tore his ACL and dropped out of the lottery (got lucky Orl even took a chance on him at #16) so that could be even more impetus for Okoro to bounce and secure the nba bag . .


Okeke still went 17 despite tearing his ACL...that's as safe as you can get if you're Okoro lol

also next years draft looks really good at the top but the depth is tbd.

I see Okoro getting looks in the lottery. Doesn’t make sense for him not to come out this year.. there are enough FOs our there who tend to reach on that mold of prospect. Won’t drop past Boston if their Memphis pick conveys, hes the exact type of prospect Ainge likes.


maybe he does, i dunno, wings are at a premium so I get it, but he's still shooting 21% from 3 and 64% from the line, compare that to Okeke who shot 38% (at a higher volume) and 72% respectively, Okeke also had a larger body of work and absolutely killed it in the tournament on top of it...so if Okoro improves those thresholds and shows well in the tourney I can def see him leaving, but at this point his percentages have been going down steadily, and outside from just finishing at the rim as a slash and cut guy he doesn't really do anything offensively.

he'll probably go to the combine to meet with teams and scouts etc. but if the percentages are still this low by the end of the season I think they'll tell him to come back.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1453 » by HeadtopChunes » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:02 am

How comparable are Okoro and Josh Okogie ?
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Post#1454 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:14 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:How comparable are Okoro and Josh Okogie ?


Okoro's more of a true wing, bigger/longer, probably more potential offensively but that's not saying a lot, I'd say Okogie is better defensively at the point of attack...probably around the same range as prospects
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1455 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 5:52 am

games like tonight are why it's so hard taking McDaniels top 10
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1456 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jan 3, 2020 6:15 am

clyde21 wrote:games like tonight are why it's so hard taking McDaniels top 10

Was he in foul trouble all night? How about Stewart though, kid just gets it done 24pts, 11rebs and 5 blocks.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1457 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 6:20 am

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clyde21 wrote:games like tonight are why it's so hard taking McDaniels top 10

Was he in foul trouble all night? How about Stewart though, kid just gets it done 24pts, 11rebs and 5 blocks.


yea, foul trouble, was pretty bad on defense, more turnovers than points.
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Post#1458 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 6:23 am

clyde21 wrote:maybe he does, i dunno, wings are at a premium so I get it, but he's still shooting 21% from 3 and 64% from the line, compare that to Okeke who shot 38% (at a higher volume) and 72% respectively, Okeke also had a larger body of work and absolutely killed it in the tournament on top of it...so if Okoro improves those thresholds and shows well in the tourney I can def see him leaving, but at this point his percentages have been going down steadily, and outside from just finishing at the rim as a slash and cut guy he doesn't really do anything offensively.

he'll probably go to the combine to meet with teams and scouts etc. but if the percentages are still this low by the end of the season I think they'll tell him to come back.

Okoros such a stud defender , it's a shame about his shooting. For a 19yo I think he still mostly fits the profile of what NBA will look at though . Athletic wing archetype + amateur pedigree (HS titles, team USA gold, Bruce Pearl Auburn etc) will ultimately get his foot in the door regardless of poor percentages .

HeadtopChunes wrote:How comparable are Okoro and Josh Okogie ?

Defensively both are impressive. Neither can/will shoot but Okoro is bigger and better finisher, can get low with his dribble and make moves with the ball away from his body, can pass it with a live dribble. Just a lot more on-ball upside there imo, and that would be one of his paths to mitigating the lack of shooting.

Not offense to Josh but compared to Okoro he's simply not that intriguing .. his offense has been hard to watch this season , missing point blank layups is a regular occurrence and really has shown no development in his ballhandling.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1459 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 6:25 am

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clyde21 wrote:maybe he does, i dunno, wings are at a premium so I get it, but he's still shooting 21% from 3 and 64% from the line, compare that to Okeke who shot 38% (at a higher volume) and 72% respectively, Okeke also had a larger body of work and absolutely killed it in the tournament on top of it...so if Okoro improves those thresholds and shows well in the tourney I can def see him leaving, but at this point his percentages have been going down steadily, and outside from just finishing at the rim as a slash and cut guy he doesn't really do anything offensively.

he'll probably go to the combine to meet with teams and scouts etc. but if the percentages are still this low by the end of the season I think they'll tell him to come back.

Okoros such a stud defender , it's a shame about his shooting. For a 19yo I think he still mostly fits the profile of what NBA will look at though . Athletic wing archetype + amateur pedigree (HS titles, team USA gold, Bruce Pearl Auburn etc) will ultimately get his foot in the door regardless of poor percentages


oh yea don't get me wrong, i like him, have him top20, i just think at this point he'll run it back to solidify himself moving forward, the Okeke route, but I won't be surprised if he's in either.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1460 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jan 3, 2020 10:59 am

Oturu with a 29 and 18 game. Isnt he the one you guys were talking about that had the 20 and 20 in his previous game?

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