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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1881 » by god shammgod » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:55 pm

The numbers have steadily imroved throughout the season. He shot 43.4 percent from the field in the month of December and averaged 12.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.9 assists-per-game.


https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/darius-garland-continues-to-grow-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers

Darius Garland did not exactly have the best of starts in his career, but the 19-year-old has been picking up the pace of late. Over the last five games, the 6-foot-1 point guard is currently averaging 13.4 points (on a much-improved 5.09 percent shooting), 2.6 rebounds, 3.2 assists, and 1.0 steals, while also connecting on 2.0 3-pointers per ballgame on a 37.0-percent clip.

Garland went on to say that he is now slowly being able to adjust his game to the NBA level.


https://cavsnation.com/cavs-news-darius-garland-confidence-is-at-all-time-high/

don't celebrate too quick melo
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1882 » by TheScout31 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 3:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:
The numbers have steadily imroved throughout the season. He shot 43.4 percent from the field in the month of December and averaged 12.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.9 assists-per-game.


https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/darius-garland-continues-to-grow-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers

Darius Garland did not exactly have the best of starts in his career, but the 19-year-old has been picking up the pace of late. Over the last five games, the 6-foot-1 point guard is currently averaging 13.4 points (on a much-improved 5.09 percent shooting), 2.6 rebounds, 3.2 assists, and 1.0 steals, while also connecting on 2.0 3-pointers per ballgame on a 37.0-percent clip.

Garland went on to say that he is now slowly being able to adjust his game to the NBA level.


https://cavsnation.com/cavs-news-darius-garland-confidence-is-at-all-time-high/

don't celebrate too quick melo



And, as mentioned before, he's playing next to Sexton for large chunks and has looked better, and put up better numbers (with the team playing better) as the only PG.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1883 » by 2010 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:11 pm

Naughtyfatboy wrote:take hailburton and call it a day. I dont trust that jumper but i didnt trust SGA's or Morants jumper either f*ck it


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1884 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:15 pm

TheScout31 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Frank barely holding on in the league.


This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1885 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:17 pm

god shammgod wrote:
The numbers have steadily imroved throughout the season. He shot 43.4 percent from the field in the month of December and averaged 12.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.9 assists-per-game.


https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/darius-garland-continues-to-grow-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers

Darius Garland did not exactly have the best of starts in his career, but the 19-year-old has been picking up the pace of late. Over the last five games, the 6-foot-1 point guard is currently averaging 13.4 points (on a much-improved 5.09 percent shooting), 2.6 rebounds, 3.2 assists, and 1.0 steals, while also connecting on 2.0 3-pointers per ballgame on a 37.0-percent clip.

Garland went on to say that he is now slowly being able to adjust his game to the NBA level.


https://cavsnation.com/cavs-news-darius-garland-confidence-is-at-all-time-high/

don't celebrate too quick melo

2.9 assists tho. Thats bad. But yes he has gotten a little better. Garland is ok but I still don’t get the hype for him. I would take a bunch of players in his class draft over him still. Sue me. Lol
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Post#1888 » by Fat » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:24 pm

i just realized we dont have a player voting poll. Its too early?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1889 » by 2010 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:24 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Frank barely holding on in the league.


This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


We all get schit wrong cuz no one has a 100% hit factor on picks. Even the GMs and scouts paid to do this full time swing and miss pretty often. KT my nicca but he gotta eat some of this crow:

• Ja Morant
• Jaren Jackson
• Justin Jackson (Maryland) *yikes*
• Trae Young
• SGA

(jury is still out on RJ & Culver)
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1890 » by robillionaire » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:25 pm

Naughtyfatboy wrote:i just realized we dont have a player voting poll. Its too early?


We're on page 95 we can probably put it in the next thread
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Post#1891 » by TheScout31 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:28 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Frank barely holding on in the league.


This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


Few things
- Frank is good. As I said, he still has to work on shooting, but the passing has been, and still is legit in nthe PnR.
- I know I get things wrong.
- I haven't said a thing about Wiseman in a minute...
- You're posting DX pieces and viewing them as gospel the same way you are accusing me of doing it. If you want to watch his games and come to a certain conclusion, that's fine. However, relying on others to supply you with an opinion won't fly. If I wanted to say everything scouts and execs have been telling me, I could do the same...but I'm not.
- Go read my scouting report on Ja. The shooting has been a nice surprise, but he still can't pull up into jumpers - that is part of why i was low. Then there was the defense and turnovers...and meh finishing.
- Re: Trae, as great as he is on offense, he is equally bad on defense...again, as I said he was. The low release hasn't been a problem like I thought it would, but I'm ok with that.

I don't have an ego, though. I admit when I'm wrong and own up to it. Not sure why you're getting mad, but alright. I'll take another leave of absence.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1892 » by TheScout31 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:30 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


We all get schit wrong cuz no one has a 100% hit factor on picks. Even the GMs and scouts paid to do this full time swing and miss pretty often. KT my nicca but he gotta eat some of this crow:

• Ja Morant
• Jaren Jackson
• Justin Jackson (Maryland) *yikes*
• Trae Young
• SGA

(jury is still out on RJ & Culver)


I'm not going to defend myself because, frankly, I don't need to.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1893 » by 2010 » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:32 pm

TheScout31 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


Few things
- Frank is good. As I said, he still has to work on shooting, but the passing has been, and still is legit in nthe PnR.
- I know I get things wrong.
- I haven't said a thing about Wiseman in a minute...
- You're posting DX pieces and viewing them as gospel the same way you are accusing me of doing it. If you want to watch his games and come to a certain conclusion, that's fine. However, relying on others to supply you with an opinion won't fly. If I wanted to say everything scouts and execs have been telling me, I could do the same...but I'm not.
- Go read my scouting report on Ja. The shooting has been a nice surprise, but he still can't pull up into jumpers - that is part of why i was low. Then there was the defense and turnovers...and meh finishing.
- Re: Trae, as great as he is on offense, he is equally bad on defense...again, as I said he was. The low release hasn't been a problem like I thought it would, but I'm ok with that.

I don't have an ego, though. I admit when I'm wrong and own up to it. Not sure why you're getting mad, but alright. I'll take another leave of absence.


You ain’t gotta leave my dude. Just take some of these bullets and keep it pushing :lol:

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Post#1894 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:33 pm

Mods, please change topic title to "2017 NBA Draft". Thanks in advance.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1895 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:34 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


We all get schit wrong cuz no one has a 100% hit factor on picks. Even the GMs and scouts paid to do this full time swing and miss pretty often. KT my nicca but he gotta eat some of this crow:

• Ja Morant
• Jaren Jackson
• Justin Jackson (Maryland) *yikes*
• Trae Young

(jury is still out on RJ & Culver)

Exactly I been wrong mad times too but I hate it when dudes who get things wrong a bunch of times act like their opinions are superior. Like that dude fischella who came in posting laughing emojis cause of what I said about Theo Maledon telling me to watch games and schit and KT got a long history of acting like his opinion is the only one that matters.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1896 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:37 pm

TheScout31 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TheScout31 wrote:
This is false and it’s disingenuous to ignore the coaching **** he’s dealt with and how he played chunks of minutes out of position.

He’s inconsistent shooting, but that’s it, and has shown improvement.

Bruh he’s not good. He still does careless passes and plays extremely timid. And you gotta stop with this talk of you thinking you right all the time. You get things wrong mad times. Every time someone say something positive about wiseman you always feel a need to come in to try and prove you’re right. Mad annoying. Now I just posted NBA scouts and DX comparing Theo to Frank and yet you still believe that you’re right. How about just respect people opinions and keep it moving. You did the same schit last year with Ja and that dude is a flat out stud now. Trae young the year before too. Even Illmatic and others called u out on that. You got a big ego. Stop being like that and be humble. Real talk.


Few things
- Frank is good. As I said, he still has to work on shooting, but the passing has been, and still is legit in nthe PnR.
- I know I get things wrong.
- I haven't said a thing about Wiseman in a minute...
- You're posting DX pieces and viewing them as gospel the same way you are accusing me of doing it. If you want to watch his games and come to a certain conclusion, that's fine. However, relying on others to supply you with an opinion won't fly. If I wanted to say everything scouts and execs have been telling me, I could do the same...but I'm not.
- Go read my scouting report on Ja. The shooting has been a nice surprise, but he still can't pull up into jumpers - that is part of why i was low. Then there was the defense and turnovers...and meh finishing.
- Re: Trae, as great as he is on offense, he is equally bad on defense...again, as I said he was. The low release hasn't been a problem like I thought it would, but I'm ok with that.

I don't have an ego, though. I admit when I'm wrong and own up to it. Not sure why you're getting mad, but alright. I'll take another leave of absence.


Here you go again. Nitpicking the **** outta there games to try and prove you’re right. You can’t be serious. You never own up to schit. Even I was dead wrong on Trae Young and I can admit it. Whatever bruh keep doing you. Maybe one day you’ll admit you was wrong. I hope Wingo is still alive when that happens.

And I’ve seen Theo play live. But good try on that one. Nobody mad I’m just calling out the BS as I see it
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Post#1897 » by Tron Carter » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:42 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1) 

Post#1898 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jan 3, 2020 4:53 pm

People on here arguing about being wrong about how good or bad a player will be going from college to the NBA. There is no exact science to projecting what a player will be at the next level and there will never be anyone to be right about it cause players picked in the lottery and everywhere else in the draft turn into busts every single year. Players also get picked in the late 1st round and 2nd round that turn into good/great players and if any GM had any way of knowing then those players wouldn't of been drafted in the late 1st or 2nd round. GM's and scouts that have been around basketball their entire lives can't even get it right all the time.

After all that i would like to say that i was right about SGA, T.Young and Ja Morant so take that losers..... :bowdown:
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Post#1899 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 3, 2020 5:00 pm

Hey guys the whole "Frank is good versus not good debate"...maybe it should go to another thread? It kinda distracts from the 2019-2020 College/Draft topic.
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Post#1900 » by No-Man » Fri Jan 3, 2020 5:01 pm

Maledon plays kinda like Calderon really, he is nothing like Frank, he has tools on defense but is bad there and on offense he is a really poised guy but not an athlete in terms of first step, although he has great body control and is a really good off-ball shooter

He is a game managing PG, if someone can get his defense to be adequate eventually he could be a good starting type next to a big stud wing

I think he is a 10s player, not a top10 prospect

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