Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[djFan71]

I"m a no go on trading Kanter. He's too much beef, and that's something we don't have. He for sure makes that 2nd unit hard as Smart and company can just jack up 3's and he can rebound.

Yeah, I've always rated Kanter as a great backup for here... Just more worried about Theis's body holding up.... so 50/50 on trading, hopefully some big shakes loose come trade deadline/buyout market

I'd happily drop Green for any warm body over 6'9" and 220lbs after the trade deadline. Just in case Timelord is still a casio (broken). We need a 3rd big.

Agreed. I'd think a Hernangomez would be available for Green. Maybe a 2nd as well?

[djFan71]

Is there a path to Dedmon where we trade Kanter for a higher-salaried player in a 1:1 swap and then trade that salary for Dedmon? I’d think hard about that, except that Kanter is playing well and growing defensively and Dedmon is playing badly. He’s also not nearly the rebounder Kanter is - but in theory, he’d be our best rim protector and have the ability to stretch the floor.

I think you can retrade guys right away, but not in combination, right? Etwaun Moore is the guy closest to the min salary needed for Dedmon that I think could be had for not much. Unfortunately, even he requires 3 guys from us, like:

Grant / Semi / Poirier for Etwaun and a pick?
Etwaun for Dedmon & pick (to get rid of him).

Doubt it's worth the cost. But captastically possible...

[Gomes3PC]

Dedmon isn't the answer. Definitely not at $18m each of the next two years. He's not going to help any more than Kanter against the likes of Embiid.

[Andrew McCeltic]

We don’t have any way to get him, but here’s Ntilikina with a strong game and good rhythm:

Watch on YouTube

6’6, 7’1 wingspan, 21 years old.. the shot starts falling and suddenly you see who he could be

[Gomes3PC]

Frankie Smokes has a role in the NBA. He will figure out his 3PT range and when he does he will be a super defensive pairing for someone like Luka or Trae Young or some other high usage scoring guard.

[Wes-J]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

[LewisnotMiller]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

I'm on board.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

Isnt the whole purpose of this thread to discuss trade fantasies? Everyone knows were not making serious moves this year [or likely in the summer], so why not discuss hypotheticals to further your understanding of a player and his value?

Further, if people are saying that they’d trade him for a really great player, that means they think Brown, too, is a really great player. Its not an insult.

Group think sucks. We shouldnt all have homogenous opinions on our players.

[Celts17Pride]

I'm all for Frank Ntilikina if the price is right. Marcus Smart and Frank Ntilikina could be a nice combo defensively in the playoffs off the bench especially with Smart tutoring Ntilikina throughout the season. Only if the price is cheap.

[MagicBagley18]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

Danny would Trade brown for a proven player who is top 20 with top 10 potential in heartbeat over Tatum. Pay attention- the pelicans wanted Tatum they had no interest in brown as a centerpiece and there’s a reason, it’s because tatums ceiling is higher than browns.

brown has played great this season but it’s abt acquiring top level talent. U can get kat for brown u do it all day. Kemba and kat you’re bonafide top 20 guys and hope Tatum grows and continues to develop into that top 10 guy. That’s how you win.

While simultaneously getting kat into a top flight organization and coach and hope he reaches his full top 10-15 talent he has.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Poirier, G. Williams, Ojeleye, pick or 2 for Robert Covington

Starters - Theis, Tatum, Hayward, Brown, Walker
Bench - Kanter, Covington, Langford, Smart, Wannamaker

[5InOfLouisville]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

Danny would Trade brown for a proven player who is top 20 with top 10 potential in heartbeat over Tatum. Pay attention- the pelicans wanted Tatum they had no interest in brown as a centerpiece and there’s a reason, it’s because tatums ceiling is higher than browns.

brown has played great this season but it’s abt acquiring top level talent. U can get kat for brown u do it all day. Kemba and kat you’re bonafide top 20 guys and hope Tatum grows and continues to develop into that top 10 guy. That’s how you win.

While simultaneously getting kat into a top flight organization and coach and hope he reaches his full top 10-15 talent he has.

do you think brown has top 20 potential? i do, but also can totally understand someone who doesnt. my only question would be, what do you think he CANT do?

I question his passing, but have seen it improve exponentially, and quite frankly, i have no idea what he can do is the focus of a defense, because we haven't seen it. Being great one-on-one after receiving the ball in an advantageous position is awesome, but to get to that next level, you have to do it when everybody is waiting for you. Like I said, i'm not sold on him having that ability, and in the brief moments he has been the head of the snake, so to speak, he seems a bit indecisive and less effective.

ive said before that i think tatum is the better prospect, but i do think it requires him reaching his ceiling, which isnt a given.

in fact, id venture to say that most players never reach their ceiling. thats why its a ceiling lol.

again, i just like the debate, and ultimately agree that Tatum > Brown, i just think that it is closer than most.

[themoneyteam2]

FraFrank Ntilikina and Stanley Johnson are two guys I would love to have on the 2nd unit. Stanley is somehow only 23 and gets zero playing time for Toronto. Frank has potential too and as a backup PG instead of Wanamaker gives you so much more athleticism and defensive ability.

Obviously little chance they are traded but just thinking of next year signing them?

[Darth Celtic]

FraFrank Ntilikina and Stanley Johnson are two guys I would love to have on the 2nd unit. Stanley is somehow only 23 and gets zero playing time for Toronto. Frank has potential too and as a backup PG instead of Wanamaker gives you so much more athleticism and defensive ability.

Obviously little chance they are traded but just thinking of next year signing them?

That's because if I had to choose between 3 months of asswater, and a week of johnson on the roster, i'd take the asswater and take a shot at eating a lot of bananas or something.

Frank isn't good, but with the new coach is doing better. Maybe at some point he'll be a backup pg worth playing in a meaningful game, not there yet.

[CelticFaninLBC]

If Boston wants a cheap Joel Embiid stopper, Wille Cauley Stein could be the guy. I'm posting below Embiid's points per 100 possessions by defensive player faced.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marc-gasol-is-joel-embiids-kryptonite/

[bucknersrevenge]

Amusing the Brown trade fantasies that will never happen.

How funny some in here are talking about Brown "continuing" to elevate his level of play at this young age and wanting to TRADE him for this available mythical top 10 player that doesn't exist.

If he continues to get better I have a novel idea.. LET'S HANG ON TO HIM.

Isnt the whole purpose of this thread to discuss trade fantasies? Everyone knows were not making serious moves this year [or likely in the summer], so why not discuss hypotheticals to further your understanding of a player and his value?

Further, if people are saying that they’d trade him for a really great player, that means they think Brown, too, is a really great player. Its not an insult.

Group think sucks. We shouldnt all have homogenous opinions on our players.

Agreed. Although in the case of Brown, fantasies are one thing but that's all they are. Brown realistically can't be moved for 2 years for cap reasons. For starters, this year, Brown in an outgoing trade counts not at this year's salary in incoming assets but outgoing he counts as the average of his salary for this year AND his 4 yr extension overall which would be 5 yr 117 or something like that. That makes a deal damn near impossible to put together. And the following year he's BYC in the first year of a new deal. We can realistically even THINK about trading Jaylen now until maybe the midway point of the 2023 season.

[djFan71]

Minor swap of bench guys. I have no idea if I like this that much.

Grant / Semi / Javonte for Torrey Craig, Hernangomez and Vanderbilt.

DEN isn't using any of those guys and Milsap / MPJ / Jerami Grant has them set at PF, Grant Will slides in behind them to develop instead of Hernangomez/Vanderbilt. Semi can help on d, etc.

We get taller (though maybe less capable this year) at PF this year, but gain some potential with Vanderbilt and shooting with Hernangomez. Craig was great in the playoffs last year, not sure what's going on with his minutes this year.

Cost is really Grant, so I guess it depends on how you see him if he's worth more than the DEN guys.
Or if DEN would even do it is the other question.

[Scarletfire81]

I just saw Drummond is on the block. Any chance we can get Drummond without giving up our core? We have to throw in Smart though.

[Celts17Pride]

Honestly the only trade deadline move that I remember Ainge making that turned out well is the IT trade. Most have very little impact.

[Celts17Pride]

I just saw Drummond is on the block. Any chance we can get Drummond without giving up our core? We have to throw in Smart though.

Smart is more valuable than Drummond