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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#101 » by OakleyDokely » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:23 am

The Raps have one of the best C situations in the league when healthy. We have 2 guys who can defend and hit from the outside.

Drummond is unplayable in a lot of matchups defensively and he's also taken out of games because of his poor FT shooting. The idea of giving him a big deal screams treadmill. He doesn't put the Raps over the top. Just an expensive complimentary piece.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#102 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:38 am

VanWest82 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Low IQ, not a great defender, not a serious threat from 3. Basically everything this team avoids.


Good points. Counter point: we have high IQ players, good defenders, and three point shooters. What we don't have is good old fashioned size, toughness, and energy on the inside. And he's only 26 and would likely be productive throughout his next contract. It's not the worst idea.

ibaka is einstein compared to this guy and this team is not lacking in toughness. we can go after tristan thompson if we want rebounding.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#103 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:39 am

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pingpongrac wrote:People really want to trade Gasol for Drummond? Drummond is still relatively young and he's very durable, but Gasol is way too important to our team. He was playing much better the last few weeks before his injury, averaging 9/7/4 on 47% shooting.

Pretty much the only thing Drummond does better than Gasol is rebound, which in turn gives him a lot more easy points in the paint. Gasol has the advantage offensively (shooting, playmaking, spacing, etc.) and defensively by far, and he doesn't clog the paint.


The only way I'd trade for Drummond is if Ibaka was the big salary filler going the other way, and we keep Gasol. While there would be some redundancy with that pairing since you probably couldn't play them together all the much, if the Raps want to make a serious run this year, they'll need Gasol.

i wouldn't even do it then. ibaka is our only trade piece this year. any move involving him would have to be an upgrade trade to help us now and the future.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#104 » by dacrusha » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:40 am

No thanks, terrible fit.

Drummond puts up rebounding numbers like Jose used to put up assists.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#105 » by VanWest82 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:45 am

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OakleyDokely wrote:Low IQ, not a great defender, not a serious threat from 3. Basically everything this team avoids.


Good points. Counter point: we have high IQ players, good defenders, and three point shooters. What we don't have is good old fashioned size, toughness, and energy on the inside. And he's only 26 and would likely be productive throughout his next contract. It's not the worst idea.

ibaka is einstein compared to this guy and this team is not lacking in toughness. we can go after tristan thompson if we want rebounding.

Drummond is a more impactful player than TT. I disagree that he's too dumb to be worth it, and his activity makes up for a lot. One year with Lowry and Nurse and he'll figure some things out. We need to find a solution at C at some point.
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Post#106 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:48 am

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Good points. Counter point: we have high IQ players, good defenders, and three point shooters. What we don't have is good old fashioned size, toughness, and energy on the inside. And he's only 26 and would likely be productive throughout his next contract. It's not the worst idea.

ibaka is einstein compared to this guy and this team is not lacking in toughness. we can go after tristan thompson if we want rebounding.

Drummond is a more impactful player than TT. I disagree that he's too dumb to be worth it, and his activity makes up for a lot. One year with Lowry and Nurse and he'll figure some things out. We need to find a solution at C at some point.

drummond's contract ends in 2021, at which time we'll be going after giannis. he's not a long term option at C. i'd rather not waste an asset for a short term move.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#107 » by JShuttlesworth » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:52 am

Neither Gasol or Ibaka will re-sign in Detroit so I can't see a trade working.

I'd almost rather keep our pick than include it on a rental for Drummond.

I'm not big on Drummond anyways fit wise.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#108 » by NBJ13 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:56 am

Casey knows many of our players, I feel he'll want a package that includes OG, not sure if he'd want Norm
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Post#109 » by dgr81 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 12:57 am

NBJ13 wrote:Casey knows many of our players, I feel he'll want a package that includes OG, not sure if he'd want Norm

Masai didn't trade pascal or OG for kawhi and green.

there is no way he is parting with OG for drummond.

it would be for ibaka and scraps.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#110 » by Alpha Mentality » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:00 am

OG isn’t going anywhere. Norm is the only wing rotation player on the block. Hes very expendable.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#111 » by VanWest82 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:03 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:ibaka is einstein compared to this guy and this team is not lacking in toughness. we can go after tristan thompson if we want rebounding.

Drummond is a more impactful player than TT. I disagree that he's too dumb to be worth it, and his activity makes up for a lot. One year with Lowry and Nurse and he'll figure some things out. We need to find a solution at C at some point.

drummond's contract ends in 2021, at which time we'll be going after giannis. he's not a long term option at C. i'd rather not waste an asset for a short term move.

I posted earlier in the thread that you only do this if you don't think Giannis is coming. Drummond will likely be looking to opt out this summer to get paid now so trading for his bird rights would be important with Siakam and Lowry's extensions already done.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#112 » by Jstock12 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:03 am

Is this the guy who bites on every pumpfake known to man?
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#113 » by mtcan » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:06 am

Jstock12 wrote:Is this the guy who bites on every pumpfake known to man?

I thought that was Hassan Whiteside?
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Post#114 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:08 am

We need an elite scorer and playmaker. Derozan makes so much sense it’s not even funny
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#115 » by Jstock12 » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:10 am

mtcan wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Is this the guy who bites on every pumpfake known to man?

I thought that was Hassan Whiteside?


I feel like you could make a 15 minute compilation of just Drummond biting on JV's pumpfakes :lol:
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#116 » by grimlock » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:11 am

If you go through the 11-12 losses, how many of those were do to poor rebounding.
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Post#117 » by mtcan » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:12 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:We need an elite scorer and playmaker. Derozan makes so much sense it’s not even funny

I don't want anything to do with having to pay DeLong 2.
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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#118 » by Raptorstorm » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:13 am

Psubs wrote:We drafted Ross instead of Drummond, traded Ross for Ibaka and now trading Ibaka and other assets for Drummond. :o


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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#119 » by JN » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:16 am

disoblige wrote:With blake I don't think they will rebuild. Andre Drummond + filler for Lowry + OG + 1st round Picks.


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Re: [Goodwill] Raptors Showing Interest In Andre Drummond 

Post#120 » by Raptorstorm » Sat Jan 4, 2020 1:18 am

Tristan for a year rent makes much more sense. Move Pascal to 3 spot and we good to go.
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