From Now to the All-Star Break

[d-train]

If the Sixers struggles continue I hope he doesn't pass on Simmons for McCollum (as the core pieces) if he becomes available.

I have to imagine that Ben Simmons would cost at least CJ, Zach and a pick. Depending on the protection, I would do that. He may not ever develop his shooting, but he is a special, young player who plays elite defense and would bring elements to this team in transition that we have no seen in decades.

Would Lillard be OK with playing off the ball more? That's a big question.

I wouldn't trade anyone in our top 3 (Lillard, CJ, & Nurk) plus Collins for Simmons. I don't care what Sixers would want in a trade. My concern is that Blazers only consider trades that make Blazers better.

[BlazersBroncos]

I wouldn't trade anyone in our top 3 (Lillard, CJ, & Nurk) plus Collins for Simmons. I don't care what Sixers would want in a trade. My concern is that Blazers only consider trades that make Blazers better.

Nice to see your still overvaluing our roster despite our putrid play. Some things do stay constant year over year.

[d-train]

I wouldn't trade anyone in our top 3 (Lillard, CJ, & Nurk) plus Collins for Simmons. I don't care what Sixers would want in a trade. My concern is that Blazers only consider trades that make Blazers better.

Nice to see your still overvaluing our roster despite our putrid play. Some things do stay constant year over year.

Nice to see there are still fans that want to trade our good players for worse players. Some things do stay the same.

[BlazersBroncos]

Nice to see there are still fans that want to trade our good players for worse players. Some things do stay the same.

There isn't a single stat or advanced stat in this solar system that would suggest Zach Collins shouldn't be traded for Ben Simmons.

I know that statistics don't mean anything to you, and that the red and black jersey automatically makes a player worth twice the value he had prior to donning said jersey, but saying you wouldn't move Zach Collins for Ben Simmons is absolute nonsense even for you.

[d-train]

Nice to see there are still fans that want to trade our good players for worse players. Some things do stay the same.

There isn't a single stat or advanced stat in this solar system that would suggest Zach Collins shouldn't be traded for Ben Simmons.

I know that statistics don't mean anything to you, and that the red and black jersey automatically makes a player worth twice the value he had prior to donning said jersey, but saying you wouldn't move Zach Collins for Ben Simmons is absolute nonsense even for you.

I wouldn't trade Zach for Simmons because it wouldn't help us win. Simmons would plug some holes in our game but not the same ones that Collins plugs. When you start adding up all the new holes you create by adding Simmons you end up worse, and with less avenues to get better.

Edit: I do care about one stat, wins. And, don't confuse wins with win shares. One is real and the other is made up after-the-fact. Win shares doesn't predict wins, it does a poor job of dividing credit after-the-fact.

[Najee12]

If the Sixers struggles continue I hope he doesn't pass on Simmons for McCollum (as the core pieces) if he becomes available.

I don't see Philadelphia trading Ben Simmons, barring some noticeable regression or a trade demand. Given Simmons' value and potential upside, his trade value would demand several players and draft picks.

If there is a Portland/Philadelphia trade, the logical one I see is is C.J. McCollum for Tobias Harris at the end of the season. Portland needs a frontline player who can provide scoring and solid all-around play and Harris can play both forward spots. Harris' contract is only slightly more than McCollum's and end in the same year (2023-24). Meanwhile, McCollum would give Philadelphia a perimeter scorer who could close out games for the shooting-bereft 76ers.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Why would Andre Miller be a better mentor than Damian Lillard? Simons is a chucker, Miller was a short-game guard.

[Pattycakes]

Saw some click bait on YouTube that suggested a CJ for Horford plus picks scenario. Question is how many 1st rounders Philly is willing to include. The complete sinking weight of Horfords next few years negates all of the overpay concerns CJ carries, so what we leave here is potentially a fair offer actually depending on the pick situation. I would say the next two plus a future or two seconds is close to where I’m at. I don’t even really like CJ but we gotta get something to show for all the time invested.

[Village Idiot]

If the Sixers struggles continue I hope he doesn't pass on Simmons for McCollum (as the core pieces) if he becomes available.

I don't see Philadelphia trading Ben Simmons, barring some noticeable regression or a trade demand. Given Simmons' value and potential upside, his trade value would demand several players and draft picks.

If there is a Portland/Philadelphia trade, the logical one I see is is C.J. McCollum for Tobias Harris at the end of the season. Portland needs a frontline player who can provide scoring and solid all-around play and Harris can play both forward spots. Harris' contract is only slightly more than McCollum's and end in the same year (2023-24). Meanwhile, McCollum would give Philadelphia a perimeter scorer who could close out games for the shooting-bereft 76ers.

I can see why Philly would do Harris for McCollum but why would we? Harris looks like he's lost a step defensively and his percentages are way down on a team that needs outside shooting in the worst way. Harris really doesn't do a whole lot that Melo doesn't at a 1/15th of the price.

Besides Simmons, the other Sixer that I'd love to have (assuming Embiid is untouchable) is Thybulle. It might be my Husky bias but his defense is exemplary and I feel like he has enough offensive talent to have a role on any team.

[Village Idiot]

Saw some click bait on YouTube that suggested a CJ for Horford plus picks scenario. Question is how many 1st rounders Philly is willing to include. The complete sinking weight of Horfords next few years negates all of the overpay concerns CJ carries, so what we leave here is potentially a fair offer actually depending on the pick situation. I would say the next two plus a future or two seconds is close to where I’m at. I don’t even really like CJ but we gotta get something to show for all the time invested.

Horford would be a really expensive back-up for Nurkic. There is no way we would acquire him.

Maybe a 3-way instead?

Horford , our pick lotto protected and a Philly pick to New Orleans
Holiday and Thybulle to us
McCollum to Philly

[Goldbum]

Simons 4 CJ is a pipe dream.

What about
CJ/Hood/Mario/Tolliver
4
Teague/Culver/RoCo/Vonleh ?

[d-train]

Simons 4 CJ is a pipe dream.

What about
CJ/Hood/Mario/Tolliver
4
Teague/Culver/RoCo/Vonleh ?

If I'm going to have a pipe dream, I want to be on the Blazer side of the pipe. This trade is a pipe dream for the T-Pups.

[d-train]

Saw some click bait on YouTube that suggested a CJ for Horford plus picks scenario. Question is how many 1st rounders Philly is willing to include. The complete sinking weight of Horfords next few years negates all of the overpay concerns CJ carries, so what we leave here is potentially a fair offer actually depending on the pick situation. I would say the next two plus a future or two seconds is close to where I’m at. I don’t even really like CJ but we gotta get something to show for all the time invested.

How about Whiteside to Cleveland for Love, Love to Philly for Horford, and Horford to Portland?

[d-train]

Saw some click bait on YouTube that suggested a CJ for Horford plus picks scenario. Question is how many 1st rounders Philly is willing to include. The complete sinking weight of Horfords next few years negates all of the overpay concerns CJ carries, so what we leave here is potentially a fair offer actually depending on the pick situation. I would say the next two plus a future or two seconds is close to where I’m at. I don’t even really like CJ but we gotta get something to show for all the time invested.

Horford would be a really expensive back-up for Nurkic. There is no way we would acquire him.

Maybe a 3-way instead?

Horford , our pick lotto protected and a Philly pick to New Orleans
Holiday and Thybulle to us
McCollum to Philly

Whiteside is going to be an expensive backup to Nurkic even if we can resign him for less this summer.

Edit: Horford is actually better than Nurkic in some ways. Horford can defend size and quickness, more like Collins except Horford can hold his ground as well as Nurkic. Whereas Collins can't even hold his ground as well as Aminu did.

[d-train]

Saw some click bait on YouTube that suggested a CJ for Horford plus picks scenario. Question is how many 1st rounders Philly is willing to include. The complete sinking weight of Horfords next few years negates all of the overpay concerns CJ carries, so what we leave here is potentially a fair offer actually depending on the pick situation. I would say the next two plus a future or two seconds is close to where I’m at. I don’t even really like CJ but we gotta get something to show for all the time invested.

Horford would be a really expensive back-up for Nurkic. There is no way we would acquire him.

Maybe a 3-way instead?

Horford , our pick lotto protected and a Philly pick to New Orleans
Holiday and Thybulle to us
McCollum to Philly

I like Holiday, but I like Horford better and don't want to give up CJ. If Phily wants to trade Horford, I would want him rather than facilitate him going to New Orleans. We wouldn't have to give up CJ for Horford if Phily wants to trade him. Nobody is going to offer a player on CJ's level for Horford.

[DaVoiceMaster]

I definitely wanna move Whiteside and Bazemore before the trade deadline. I dunno if that's Kevin Love or Aldridge or ??? Hopefully the Blazers can add something else to the mix. Whiteside and change for Love, hen Bazemore (and change if necessary) for ??? (poor contract and young talent or picks?

[Epicurus]

I like roster stability. Two teams had a near even seasonal record and have a 7game series in the conference semifinals. One kept its roster in tact and the other jettisoned 7 of its contributors. The stable roster team has a good record this season, the jettisoned roster team has a mildly poor record this season.

Thus, I'd like next season, as intended starters, Lillard, McCullom, Hood, Collins, and Nurkic; as first line reserves: Simons,Trent, Anthony, Lebissere, and Whiteside. The Nurk and the Turk tandem last season was 12-4. I see no reason why a Nurk/Whiteside tandem would be worse. Hezonja and Little would be the deep bench. Bazemore gone (without a trade, except a draft choice) and Tolliver retired. Now, I have no idea if this year's long injured will be ready next season, but who really does? Nor do I know ANthony's willingness to take a back seat or Whiteside's to share court time with Nuk (and vice versa). But all things being equal, I think stability via this roster make the playoffs more likely than this season, and even movement to the next playoff series.

[GEE]

I agree with you on this one Epicurus. I too am not in the "We have to move those assets" camp. I think the smart move now, is to look at next years opening day roster. Try to convince Whiteside to re-sign with us on a fair deal, and let Baze pretty much walk. Save some money, and build on Nurk, Whiteside, Collins, Skal, Hood, CJ, Simons and Dame.

With that said, I would like Olshey to find us another diamond in the rough SF, consider trading CJ if it brings back two more Rodney Hoods, and be looking hard around the league for upgrades in the coaching staff.

As for the rest of this year... Just play the pups. I want to see a heavy dose of Simons, Little, Hoard AND MOSES. Trent, not so much.

[Wizenheimer]

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LOL....lottery bound?

[Norm2953]

I agree with you on this one Epicurus. I too am not in the "We have to move those assets" camp. I think the smart move now, is to look at next years opening day roster. Try to convince Whiteside to re-sign with us on a fair deal, and let Baze pretty much walk. Save some money, and build on Nurk, Whiteside, Collins, Skal, Hood, CJ, Simons and Dame.

With that said, I would like Olshey to find us another diamond in the rough SF, consider trading CJ if it brings back two more Rodney Hoods, and be looking hard around the league for upgrades in the coaching staff.

As for the rest of this year... Just play the pups. I want to see a heavy dose of Simons, Little, Hoard AND MOSES. Trent, not so much.

Whiteside is going to get paid in a mediocre free agent market. Coming off a bad 2019-20 season and a very likely
possibility of playing behind Nurk, he's going to get more than MLE money elsewhere from a team he thinks has a
better chance to win.

Portland's task for the rest of the season is to fully evaluate Little, Hoard and Brown to see if they fit in their plans for
next season. Even with Nurkic and Collins coming back, they need at least two more quallity front court bodies up
front for Hood is going to be out for some time with his torn Achillies. Hopefully they can find a decent player either
via trade or using their cap space for their best move would likely be to add a solid veteran player on a decent contract
and groom one of the young players they have now or the guy they will get with their late lottery pick.