Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized

[ankle420breaker]

He'll perk up once he's paired with another top 15 player he gels with. You can't give him Jimmy Butler, let him walk, and fill that void with Al Horford. If you were in Jo's shoes, wouldn't you be disappointed with that?

Absolutely. We had a bonafide contending roster with our GM going on record several times saying he had authorization from ownership to run it back. We made poor decisions as an organization, which could ultimately bring seismic consequences.

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[DaSixers]

You guys realize butler left because of simmons and brown. Listen to his interviews. This money BS is BS. Did u watch butlers FA documentary? When he was going over his final decision he was mentioning "all that money" from the sixers

He saw the issues with brown and simmons, as I have for a long ass time, and he knew it was an issue that the team wasnt willing to fix

Enuff with this crap we disnt want to pay him but were fine paying horford all this crap money

[AI_Efficiency]

He'll perk up once he's paired with another top 15 player he gels with. You can't give him Jimmy Butler, let him walk, and fill that void with Al Horford. If you were in Jo's shoes, wouldn't you be disappointed with that?

Absolutely. We had a bonafide contending roster with our GM going on record several times saying he had authorization from ownership to run it back. We made poor decisions as an organization, which could ultimately bring seismic consequences.

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This. Feel like losing a top 15ish player that fit well with your other star is a mistake that is difficult to come back from. If this team never wins a championship in the next decade, I think the Fultz trade and losing Jimmy Butler are the two things you point to.

[michaelm]

He'll perk up once he's paired with another top 15 player he gels with. You can't give him Jimmy Butler, let him walk, and fill that void with Al Horford. Horford brings nothing to supplement JoJo's game. It also put all the pressure on him to be the closer. Haven't we been there and done that?

If any of us were in Jo's shoes, I imagine we'd feel pretty let down by the FO too.

And in hiring Horford essentially as a back up for him while ignoring other problems they have more or less implied he was the main issue. It seems fairly definite he could do with losing weight/improving his conditioning, but would perhaps be more motivated to do so and more motivated in general as you say had they kept Butler and built around the two of them, instead of constructing a roster which seemed to attempt to straddle 2 horses simultaneously as has also been said and while perhaps capable of beating the Bucks and with a side benefit of weakening the Celtics defence against Embiid is likely not championship material against most other good teams.

[Tomjas]

Butler was not good for the Sixers

We needed 2 points to take it to overtime and he stuffed up several plays in the 4th quarter

Throw in the fact that he was a defensive liability and people are trying to rewrite history

He wasn’t good in that series

At all

[Bum Adebayo]

Yeah but Simmons was... LOL

[kuclas]

Can we just trade embiid? I’m a huge embiid fan but also bigger sixers fan.

He’s gonna to bring back the most assets in return. It won’t be a popular move with the fans. But sometimes less is more. And less embiid and some growing pains along with more players who fit the run and gun style of Simmons would be better long term.

[XDevilBoiX]

Can we just trade embiid? I’m a huge embiid fan but also bigger sixers fan.

He’s gonna to bring back the most assets in return. It won’t be a popular move with the fans. But sometimes less is more. And less embiid and some growing pains along with more players who fit the run and gun style of Simmons would be better long term.

We won’t get the value of Embiid back, trading him for pieces won’t help this team win the title with Ben leading the charge. If Ben steps up and lead this team like a true superstar that can lead to winning the title then I don’t mind trading Embiid. I don’t see that happening any time soon.

[Kobblehead]

Can we just trade embiid? I’m a huge embiid fan but also bigger sixers fan.

He’s gonna to bring back the most assets in return. It won’t be a popular move with the fans. But sometimes less is more. And less embiid and some growing pains along with more players who fit the run and gun style of Simmons would be better long term.

Simmons hasn't shown to be good enough yet to warrant building around. Also, the run and gun style is a regular season gimmick that doesn't translate to the postseason. So why put our eggs in that basket?

[kuclas]

Can we just trade embiid? I’m a huge embiid fan but also bigger sixers fan.

He’s gonna to bring back the most assets in return. It won’t be a popular move with the fans. But sometimes less is more. And less embiid and some growing pains along with more players who fit the run and gun style of Simmons would be better long term.

We won’t get the value of Embiid back, trading him for pieces won’t help this team win the title with Ben leading the charge. If Ben steps up and lead this team like a true superstar that can lead to winning the title then I don’t mind trading Embiid. I don’t see that happening any time soon.

Embiid turns 26 in April. But it seems like he’s moving like a 34 year old Shaq at times (Shaq’s last relevant year)

He hasn’t look as springy before the last left knee flare up before all star game 2019.

[ankle420breaker]

Can we just trade embiid? I’m a huge embiid fan but also bigger sixers fan.

He’s gonna to bring back the most assets in return. It won’t be a popular move with the fans. But sometimes less is more. And less embiid and some growing pains along with more players who fit the run and gun style of Simmons would be better long term.

We won’t get the value of Embiid back, trading him for pieces won’t help this team win the title with Ben leading the charge. If Ben steps up and lead this team like a true superstar that can lead to winning the title then I don’t mind trading Embiid. I don’t see that happening any time soon.

Embiid turns 26 in April. But it seems like he’s moving like a 34 year old Shaq at times (Shaq’s last relevant year)

He hasn’t look as springy before the last left knee flare up before all star game 2019.

Beal is the guy I'd want to pursue in the off chance we hit the panic button and end up trading Embiid. Beal & Bertans would be pretty fair value.... gives us a balanced core with better depth and still allows for a decent window to contend.

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[kuclas]

We won’t get the value of Embiid back, trading him for pieces won’t help this team win the title with Ben leading the charge. If Ben steps up and lead this team like a true superstar that can lead to winning the title then I don’t mind trading Embiid. I don’t see that happening any time soon.

Embiid turns 26 in April. But it seems like he’s moving like a 34 year old Shaq at times (Shaq’s last relevant year)

He hasn’t look as springy before the last left knee flare up before all star game 2019.

Beal is the guy I'd want to pursue in the off chance we hit the panic button and end up trading Embiid. Beal & Bertans would be pretty fair value.... gives us a balanced core with better depth and still allows for a decent window to contend.

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That would actually work. Salary wise that works as well. Though wizards probably need to throw in 2 first rounders In addition to Beal and bertans.

I like that type of trade. Horford can slide to the 5. Harris to the 4. Richardson and Beal and Simmons can the 1-3.

[mjkvol]

I'm not convinced that keeping Butler was the answer unless Simmons was going to be traded, and that was just not going to happen. Trading Embiid is absolutely not going to happen - how many times has a team ever traded the face of the franchise and most popular player in his prime with the team trying to contend? Whether or not it makes sense is irrelevant - on court issues are only part of the equation when dealing with the primary asset of an organization.

[mjkvol]

The crux of the problem is not necessarily letting Butler walk if the intention was never to trade Simmons, but the signing of two decent complimentary players for elite money, giving the max to one of them, has crippled any chance this team has to get better in the short term. And combined with the amount of assets squandered in the Butler, Harris, and Fultz trades, the cupboard is just about bare. It makes me sick to think what this organization allowed to happen to the incredible promise and the possibilities that The Process held.

[LeonJordanJr24]

[quote="mjkvol"]The crux of the problem is not necessarily letting Butler walk if the intention was never to trade Simmons, but the signing of two decent complimentary players for elite money, giving the max to one of them, has crippled any chance this team has to get better in the short term. And combined with the amount of assets squandered in the Butler, Harris, and Fultz trades, the cupboard is just about bare. It makes me sick to think what this organization allowed to happen to the incredible promise and the possibilities that Th



Bruh I actually prefer JRich to Butler sheerly on age, chemistry and defense. I think he is a better shooter too. I think Butler is overrated and I wouldn’t give him a max. JRich is a richmans ROCO for Us like Tobias is a rich mans Dario.


The eff up is Horford instead of starting caliber Combo guard . Also not getting a replacement for Fultz trade .


This team is a roster fix and a few upgrades way from being lit!

[DaSixers]

The eff ups* are not trading simmons, firing brett clown, and the signing of horford

[downtownpie]

Butler was never staying. He couldbt be the man in Philly and that's what he craves.

Embiid needs to get fit and stop sooking or this season is over.

[Bum Adebayo]

Butler was never staying agree, he saw Brett not being fired and called it quits.

[Arsenal]

Jimmy Butler absolutely would have stayed if we paid him the MAX that he deserved.

The only reason he is gone is become of ownership cheapness.

[DaSixers]

Jimmy Butler absolutely would have stayed if we paid him the MAX that he deserved.

The only reason he is gone is become of ownership cheapness.

We offered the max. Watch butlers documentary on free agency. He didnt want to deal with the simmons brown combo. He all but has said itnin interviews