Thank you Wingo, what a great era in boxing, especially the heavyweight division.
This one is up there with Hagler-Hearns as one of my all time favorite fights. Round 4 was amazing. Lol at Cosell.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Kavanaugh saying that "this is the best that Conor's every looked."Also says that Conor is calling the shots in this training camp and they're just following his direction. To me, all that says that Conor's going to get his ass kicked. Cowboy is battle tested. Conor's been drinking booze and taking swipes at old men in bars.
Tron Carter wrote:still think mcgregor flat lines cowboy inside 2. cerrone’s stance is just too stiff and his combinations are too slow. he needs to be forbidden from throwing the right hand.
j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Kavanaugh saying that "this is the best that Conor's every looked."Also says that Conor is calling the shots in this training camp and they're just following his direction. To me, all that says that Conor's going to get his ass kicked. Cowboy is battle tested. Conor's been drinking booze and taking swipes at old men in bars.
Tron Carter wrote:still think mcgregor flat lines cowboy inside 2. cerrone’s stance is just too stiff and his combinations are too slow. he needs to be forbidden from throwing the right hand.
I think these two posts kinda distill what makes this fight unpredictable. Stylistically, this is Conor's wheelhouse. Cerrone doesn't do well with fighters that crowd him and doesn't have the wrestling to take down fighters with solid takedown defense (as much as it gets downplayed, Conor's takedown defense is actually decent). As much as Cerrone's team has said they only have to worry about the left, you're talking about a guy who has built his entire arsenal to set up the left. He'll walk you into it, throw lead uppercuts to force you that way and when you circle out, he's got kicks that lead you the opposite way too. So all things being equal, I'd take McGregor easy...BUT
Like Wingo says, this is a guy who's been out for a long time. He had cardio issues in his best days (I remember hearing he wouldn't do road work but not sure if true). He's coming in to fight at 170 which I think of as a redflag, although it could just be to open more options with his next opponent I admit. If he shows up rusty and less than sharp, Cerrone could drag it out and make things really problematic. But that's the big question...what kind of Conor is showing up? Conor that beat Eddie Alvarez or Conor that couldn't knock a senior citizen off his bar stool with a sucker punch?

newyorker4ever wrote:Conor's take down defense is really good and people sleep on Cowboy's ground game cause he's legit on the ground but he just loves to stand and bang cause he knows he's got great stand up with punches and especially his kicks which is what he needs to do to Conor, kick those legs as much as possible. IMO Cowboy loses in a stand up fight just because of the power Conor has in his hands especially that left hand. Cowboy has been hurt with body shots before and if Conor hits him in the liver with a left it could be over quick. IMO the only way Cowboy wins is if he lands a legit head kick or gets Conor to the ground. Always been a big Cowboy fan and will be rooting for him but if i was putting money on this fight it would be on Conor.
j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Kavanaugh saying that "this is the best that Conor's every looked."Also says that Conor is calling the shots in this training camp and they're just following his direction. To me, all that says that Conor's going to get his ass kicked. Cowboy is battle tested. Conor's been drinking booze and taking swipes at old men in bars.
Tron Carter wrote:still think mcgregor flat lines cowboy inside 2. cerrone’s stance is just too stiff and his combinations are too slow. he needs to be forbidden from throwing the right hand.
I think these two posts kinda distill what makes this fight unpredictable. Stylistically, this is Conor's wheelhouse. Cerrone doesn't do well with fighters that crowd him and doesn't have the wrestling to take down fighters with solid takedown defense (as much as it gets downplayed, Conor's takedown defense is actually decent). As much as Cerrone's team has said they only have to worry about the left, you're talking about a guy who has built his entire arsenal to set up the left. He'll walk you into it, throw lead uppercuts to force you that way and when you circle out, he's got kicks that lead you the opposite way too. So all things being equal, I'd take McGregor easy...BUT
Like Wingo says, this is a guy who's been out for a long time. He had cardio issues in his best days (I remember hearing he wouldn't do road work but not sure if true). He's coming in to fight at 170 which I think of as a redflag, although it could just be to open more options with his next opponent I admit. If he shows up rusty and less than sharp, Cerrone could drag it out and make things really problematic. But that's the big question...what kind of Conor is showing up? Conor that beat Eddie Alvarez or Conor that couldn't knock a senior citizen off his bar stool with a sucker punch?

HarthorneWingo wrote:If Conor misses with his left that leaves the left side of his head open for a head kick from Cowboy, no? Also, I don't know if you saw yet but Conor and not Kavanaugh is running the training camp. This doesn't bode well for Conor IMO. His ego has gotten the best of him.
I'm telling you, the best thing that can happen to Conor is that Cerrone give him a good kick to the head and knock him TF out.
HarthorneWingo wrote:j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Kavanaugh saying that "this is the best that Conor's every looked."Also says that Conor is calling the shots in this training camp and they're just following his direction. To me, all that says that Conor's going to get his ass kicked. Cowboy is battle tested. Conor's been drinking booze and taking swipes at old men in bars.
Tron Carter wrote:still think mcgregor flat lines cowboy inside 2. cerrone’s stance is just too stiff and his combinations are too slow. he needs to be forbidden from throwing the right hand.
I think these two posts kinda distill what makes this fight unpredictable. Stylistically, this is Conor's wheelhouse. Cerrone doesn't do well with fighters that crowd him and doesn't have the wrestling to take down fighters with solid takedown defense (as much as it gets downplayed, Conor's takedown defense is actually decent). As much as Cerrone's team has said they only have to worry about the left, you're talking about a guy who has built his entire arsenal to set up the left. He'll walk you into it, throw lead uppercuts to force you that way and when you circle out, he's got kicks that lead you the opposite way too. So all things being equal, I'd take McGregor easy...BUT
Like Wingo says, this is a guy who's been out for a long time. He had cardio issues in his best days (I remember hearing he wouldn't do road work but not sure if true). He's coming in to fight at 170 which I think of as a redflag, although it could just be to open more options with his next opponent I admit. If he shows up rusty and less than sharp, Cerrone could drag it out and make things really problematic. But that's the big question...what kind of Conor is showing up? Conor that beat Eddie Alvarez or Conor that couldn't knock a senior citizen off his bar stool with a sucker punch?
If Conor misses with his left that leaves the left side of his head open for a head kick from Cowboy, no? Also, I don't know if you saw yet but Conor and not Kavanaugh is running the training camp. This doesn't bode well for Conor IMO. His ego has gotten the best of him.
I'm telling you, the best thing that can happen to Conor is that Cerrone give him a good kick to the head and knock him TF out.


HarthorneWingo wrote:I saw a video, The Weasel?, where it was discussed that Conor may not use his usual lefty side-stance because it plays to easily into Cerrone's head kicks and may use a more typical boxing stance.
More evidence that says to me that Cowboy's going to win this fight.



GEOLINK wrote:Cerrone's weaknesses play into Conor's strengths.
I don't picture Cerrone beating Conor at all unless Conor rolls up to the arena drunk like he did for the Khabib fight.
Cerrone's not a pressure fighter and he won't hold Conor down like Khabib.
Only thing I could see is that it could take Conor a few shots to put Cerrone away which may be in the 2nd round.
j4remi wrote:GEOLINK wrote:Cerrone's weaknesses play into Conor's strengths.
I don't picture Cerrone beating Conor at all unless Conor rolls up to the arena drunk like he did for the Khabib fight.
Cerrone's not a pressure fighter and he won't hold Conor down like Khabib.
Only thing I could see is that it could take Conor a few shots to put Cerrone away which may be in the 2nd round.
It all comes down to if Conor's sharp after a long absence and how long Cerrone can hold up. Because Conor's cardio is still unproven. Cerrone has fought some heavy hitters and the ones that don't get him outta there after 1 usually have to ride out the fight (ie: Lawler, Ferguson was on his way to a war before the nose blowing mistake and Mike Perry couldn't finish before getting himself in trouble). I'm not saying Cowboy wins for sure, but reflecting on it, I think there are enough variables at play where Cowboy has a shot to score the upset if Conor's press has been more talk than real work.
j4remi wrote:GEOLINK wrote:Cerrone's weaknesses play into Conor's strengths.
I don't picture Cerrone beating Conor at all unless Conor rolls up to the arena drunk like he did for the Khabib fight.
Cerrone's not a pressure fighter and he won't hold Conor down like Khabib.
Only thing I could see is that it could take Conor a few shots to put Cerrone away which may be in the 2nd round.
It all comes down to if Conor's sharp after a long absence and how long Cerrone can hold up. Because Conor's cardio is still unproven. Cerrone has fought some heavy hitters and the ones that don't get him outta there after 1 usually have to ride out the fight (ie: Lawler, Ferguson was on his way to a war before the nose blowing mistake and Mike Perry couldn't finish before getting himself in trouble). I'm not saying Cowboy wins for sure, but reflecting on it, I think there are enough variables at play where Cowboy has a shot to score the upset if Conor's press has been more talk than real work.
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