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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#401 » by gom » Tue Jan 7, 2020 3:56 am

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Don't hold back. LOL.

Whiteside was an experiment that didn't work. There were a number of errors that held us back. It wasn't just Hassan, and the front office has part of the blame too. Personally, I was happy we signed Whiteside and loved when he was on. It's too bad it didn't work out, but it's like a bad marriage: everyone involved is to blame, including the wingman. ;-)
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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#402 » by goodboy » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:50 am

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Don't hold back. LOL.

Whiteside was an experiment that didn't work. There were a number of errors that held us back. It wasn't just Hassan, and the front office has part of the blame too. Personally, I was happy we signed Whiteside and loved when he was on. It's too bad it didn't work out, but it's like a bad marriage: everyone involved is to blame, including the wingman. ;-)

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

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Don't hold back. LOL.

Whiteside was an experiment that didn't work. There were a number of errors that held us back. It wasn't just Hassan, and the front office has part of the blame too. Personally, I was happy we signed Whiteside and loved when he was on. It's too bad it didn't work out, but it's like a bad marriage: everyone involved is to blame, including the wingman. ;-)

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#405 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:28 pm

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I do NOT miss this ****. Having to justify why that stat is always negative.

His +/- is bad because his team loses the lead when he's in the game and HE DOESN'T PASS THE BALL. I wonder what his Ortg-Drtg calculation is...
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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#406 » by Shootit » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:38 pm

If only Whiteside came to play most nights/every night he would still be here and loved.

Got the max, then proceeded to mail it in at times. Don't hate him or anything but glad they moved on and allowed Bam to flourish.
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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#407 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:40 pm

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#408 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2020 4:50 pm

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His biggest crime is being an old school big man who can't play like a small man. Having a coach that changed to an offense that wouldn't exploit his skills and being too stubborn to change. Just like he was stubbornly rolling out the corpses of Eddy Curry, Dexter Pitman and Big Z when the old style was the "only" way to play.

I can imagine how fans would turn on Bam if the NBA changed its whims and reverted the rules to 90s era style or had his coach stubbornly made him play like a traditional big man.

It's true that we're a lot better now with out him, but we also have much better players playing significant minutes too.

Not to be a dick, but the Whiteside sympathizers can bleep off. Why Hassan deserves all the hate he gets:

1. Put our team in salary cap hell by playing great in a contract year, then proceeding to mail it in afterwards.
2. Threatened team chemistry by being a lazy max contract (people who should be leaders), and openly badmouthing the coaching staff who have proven to be extremely capable, as oppressed to his bum ass.
3. Caring far too much about himself in a team sport to the point that he compromised is on both ends of the floor. Can't run good perimeter defense with a glorified camper in the paint, and stifling ball movement by having the court vision of a blindfolded Stevie Wonder.
4. Complaining about his minutes late in games, instead of taking corrective steps in his game to compel Spo to play him more.

**** Whiteside. **** him. Kept our team back, kept our talent back, and has all the self-awareness of a newborn baby. Good riddance, and I'm loving watching Portland go from WCF to the 2019 Heat, who can't be trusted to win games they're supposed to. There is no coincidence why that team sucks right now. Yeah, they have injuries, but if Whiteside can't plug the holes left by their big men, then he is clearly a waste of height and money. 7ft of gutless bitchassness that we all celebrated leaving this team.

If it sounds like I hold a grudge, it's because I do. Hassan Whiteside was never cut from the Miami Heat cloth. He was a fluke. A freak anomaly who fooled us into thinking he had potential to be great, when in reality, he was always the complete "jackass" that Amin El Hassan labeled him before his breakout. We were wrong. Amin was right. We managed to Riley our way out of that contract, to the detriment of Portland's playoff chances. Sucks for them, but they didn't do their due diligence.

**** Hassan Whiteside. F him in the A. We won that trade, and Dragon seemed to enjoy eating his lunch in all the basketball scenarios that we know Hassan is weak in. If DRob hit his season average, this woulda been a mercy killing. Addition by subtraction, and I don't think any Heat fan should feel bad about how he was treated. He left a bad taste in many of our mouths, to the point that I want nothing more than to watch him wallow in mediocrity the rest of his career.

Compare this to someone like Eddie Jones who underwhelmed our fanbase, but only because of great expectations. He still put in the effort every game, and tried to live up to what we thought he could be. I'll never hate Eddie Jones, I only have frustration. I **** hate Hassan Whiteside. **** him.

He didn't mail it in, we let Wade go to pay him and then almost immediately decided that all we needed from him is rebounding. Still one of the most mind boggling episodes we went through. You don't pay the max for that. Portland's issue is their bench. Every time I check them they barely put together 20 pts. I was willing to let him AND Dragic go so I'm no apologist.

What? Yes he did. He got destroyed by Embiid. He didn't really try out there in that series. He mailed it in fam. Granted he was dealing with the knee brace, but his numbers shouldn't have been as terrible as they were and his activity was putrid.
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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#409 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 12:54 am

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#410 » by Heat3 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 4:31 pm

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Heat3 wrote:Man I hate the hatred that Hassan gets. He has been the same guy the entire time now a lot of Heat fans act like he's the worst person in the world. The local media was ratcheting up the hate as well.

His biggest crime is being an old school big man who can't play like a small man. Having a coach that changed to an offense that wouldn't exploit his skills and being too stubborn to change. Just like he was stubbornly rolling out the corpses of Eddy Curry, Dexter Pitman and Big Z when the old style was the "only" way to play.

I can imagine how fans would turn on Bam if the NBA changed its whims and reverted the rules to 90s era style or had his coach stubbornly made him play like a traditional big man.

It's true that we're a lot better now with out him, but we also have much better players playing significant minutes too.

His attitude on/off the court is what made Heat fans dislike him. Not his playstyle.


His attitude on/off the court has never changed.

From my observation Heat fans turned on him when Spo started benching him. Spo benched him because he couldn’t play the style that coach wanted.

People blame him for him sitting on the bench as if that was his choice lol...

It’s like bitching about Dion’s or JJ’s production this year when it isn’t them deciding to be benched.
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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#411 » by Heat3 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 4:49 pm

Rock Hardy wrote:Not to be a dick, but the Whiteside sympathizers can bleep off. Why Hassan deserves all the hate he gets:

1. Put our team in salary cap hell by playing great in a contract year, then proceeding to mail it in afterwards.


“Not to be a dick”, but this is idiotic. Its not a players job to manage salary cap. Hating a big slow guy because he can’t guard the perimeter is stupid as well.

The source of your grievances is the front office that paid him and the coach that couldn’t exploit his strengths and decided to bench him.

That’s how miami fans are in general for all the teams down here. Whenever a guy leaves they are the bad guy. If it was Spo that was gone he’d be the one getting the majority of the hate.

Already saw Riley getting a ton of hate as recently as draft night until Butler and Tyler shut them up.

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Re: Portland @ Miami - Sunday - 6:00PM - 1/5/2020 

Post#412 » by twix2500 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:59 pm

Hassan didn't mail it in right after his big contract. He played his best bball the year after signing his big contract. The problem started when he hurt his knee the following year, it started with the argument over wearing a knee brace, then about spo monitoring his minutes because of the knee. Whiteside felt Spo was trying make an excuse for Bam to play. That's when Hassan immaturity exploded.

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