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Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1461 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 9, 2020 4:44 pm

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Floody100 wrote:We all know Kemba, Smart, Jaylen, Tatum & Hayward are off limits.
Can we be more realistic with our trade ideas ?

Why is Hayward off limits? There are so many ??? with him. Health, contract, opt outs. I love how he’s playing but he’s not immovable by any means. The kids are a different story since they are either locked up long term or will be

Rumors have been out there that the Celtics are not moving any of their core pieces and yes Hayward is a core piece.

Two, the Celtics have shown no interest in trading any of their five high-profile perimeter players (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Marcus Smart), and they are the only players on the team making more than $5 million per season.

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1462 » by Floody100 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 4:58 pm

Everyone has to stop overacting for gods sake. We’re not going anywhere if we don’t keep our best 5 players. Every team has poor stretches, calm down.
Surely you guys remember when we were talking about how good Hayward was playing before the hand injury & how we couldn’t wait to have him back ?
Be patient !
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Post#1463 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:06 pm

Floody100 wrote:Everyone has to stop overacting for gods sake. We’re not going anywhere if we don’t keep our best 5 players. Every team has poor stretches, calm down.
Surely you guys remember when we were talking about how good Hayward was playing before the hand injury & how we couldn’t wait to have him back ?
Be patient !


I’m with ya on Hayward for sure. He was arguably our best player early on. I said arguably so nobody kill me please. Lol. I know Kemba is our best and easily our most valuable.
I don’t think Smart is as needed on the team anywhere near that top 4 but the trades I’d like to see, I don’t think the other team would do.
Having said that it’s a trade thread . People talking hoops. Trade ideas are fun and everyone knows 99 percent of the ideas never happen. I don’t think anyone is really losing their mind here.
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Post#1464 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:09 pm

I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1465 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:14 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.

do you not watch web forums over the last 10 years bro?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1466 » by 5InOfLouisville » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:15 pm

i don't think we are making any major trades, because i don't think theres much out there that truly elevates our team.

BUT let's be honest, NOBODY is off limits. If somebody blows us away, we take it. We don't have a current top 5, top 10 superstar. if somebody offers us one for a reasonable package or someone shakes lose, we jump on it.

DA is gonna say the right things. I agree that we arent actively seeking out trade partners for our core, but if someone makes us that godfather offer...we say yes and we'd be crazy not to.
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Post#1467 » by 5InOfLouisville » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:19 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.


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Post#1468 » by GoGreen » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:50 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.


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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1469 » by GoGreen » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:52 pm

We could use some bench scoring. I would LOVE Bertans on this team. Big body who can shoot the 3. Yes please. Shoot, I'd even take a chance on Kuzma.

We have 3 1st rd picks likely this year. I really don't want to watch Danny waste them on another mediocre bench player. Let's get someone we know can play! Even if we have to overpay.
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Post#1470 » by 100proof » Thu Jan 9, 2020 6:43 pm

5InOfLouisville wrote:
Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.


Confession: You guys are actually right. I've never watched an actual basketball game in my life, although I have seen the movie Teen Wolf several times.

Im just here for the sense of community and brotherhood.

Feels good to come clean.



Wanna step up your game, need to watch space jam.
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Post#1471 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 6:54 pm

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Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.

do you not watch web forums over the last 10 years bro?

I know it’s nothing new but I don’t get it.
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Post#1472 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 6:56 pm

100proof wrote:
5InOfLouisville wrote:
Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.


Confession: You guys are actually right. I've never watched an actual basketball game in my life, although I have seen the movie Teen Wolf several times.

Im just here for the sense of community and brotherhood.

Feels good to come clean.



Wanna step up your game, need to watch space jam.


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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1473 » by Marvel » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:50 pm

Floody100 wrote:We all know Kemba, Smart, Jaylen, Tatum & Hayward are off limits.
Can we be more realistic with our trade ideas ?

Uhmmmm no. Smart and Hay are all good to go.
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Post#1474 » by Marvel » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:53 pm

Floody100 wrote:Everyone has to stop overacting for gods sake. We’re not going anywhere if we don’t keep our best 5 players. Every team has poor stretches, calm down.
Surely you guys remember when we were talking about how good Hayward was playing before the hand injury & how we couldn’t wait to have him back ?
Be patient !

Well it is a trade thread where we discuss trades.
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Post#1475 » by Hoopalalia » Thu Jan 9, 2020 9:23 pm

This works: Celtics trade Smart, Tatum, & Robert Williams + any draft pick to Minnesota for Karl Anthony Towns.
Thibs may bite at Smart, Tatum is the name brand, Williams is necessary for cap & value. Draft picks of course.
Celtics start the Romeo Langford era, and Towns, Hayward (low miles), Kemba & Brown kill the East.
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Post#1476 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:06 pm

Hoopalalia wrote:This works: Celtics trade Smart, Tatum, & Robert Williams + any draft pick to Minnesota for Karl Anthony Towns.
Thibs may bite at Smart, Tatum is the name brand, Williams is necessary for cap & value. Draft picks of course.
Celtics start the Romeo Langford era, and Towns, Hayward (low miles), Kemba & Brown kill the East.


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Post#1477 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:10 pm

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Dannyboy36 wrote:I really don’t understand replies on the web between fans ( especially of the same team) like “ do you not watch basketball?” “ You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.” Instead of “ wow. I totally disagree and here’s why.” It’s so easy. But people need to talk down to strangers. So lame.

do you not watch web forums over the last 10 years bro?


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Post#1478 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Jan 9, 2020 11:26 pm

we haven't been this hamstrung at the trade deadline in years. We have no expiring contracts for teams looking to shed salary. We have no desirable young players with bright futures outside of the core, and we don't have enticing draft picks to offer either. Danny clearly went all in on this team for the next several seasons. The only major change that will happen will be after next season when we lose Hayward and substitute his absurd contract for Tatum's deserved one. Our cap will still be tight and we won't have the necessary assets to make a move. That's why it was imperative for Danny to draft well these past couple seasons but he blew it. Instead of Robert Williams we could have had Mitchell Robinson. Instead of Langford we could have had Sekou Doumbouya. Instead of Grant Williams we could have had Bazley, Little or Claxton. Instead of Edwards we could have had Bol, McDaniels, Reid or Roby. It's insane how much high upside talent he passes over ever draft. That will keep us as pretenders for the foreseeable future. Good thing he traded away the rights to the #8 pick in 2018 in the Kyire trade. Who would want a full career of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Porter Jr., Anfernee Simons, etc anyway?
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Post#1479 » by fallguy » Thu Jan 9, 2020 11:29 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:we haven't been this hamstrung at the trade deadline in years. We have no expiring contracts for teams looking to shed salary. We have no desirable young players with bright futures outside of the core, and we don't have enticing draft picks to offer either. Danny clearly went all in on this team for the next several seasons. The only major change that will happen will be after next season when we lose Hayward and substitute his absurd contract for Tatum's deserved one. Our cap will still be tight and we won't have the necessary assets to make a move. That's why it was imperative for Danny to draft well these past couple seasons but he blew it. Instead of Robert Williams we could have had Mitchell Robinson. Instead of Langford we could have had Sekou Doumbouya. Instead of Grant Williams we could have had Bazley, Little or Claxton. Instead of Edwards we could have had Bol, McDaniels, Reid or Roby. It's insane how much high upside talent he passes over ever draft. That will keep us as pretenders for the foreseeable future. Good thing he traded away the rights to the #8 pick in 2018 in the Kyire trade. Who would want a full career of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Porter Jr., Anfernee Simons, etc anyway?


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Post#1480 » by djFan71 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 11:44 pm

fallguy wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:we haven't been this hamstrung at the trade deadline in years. We have no expiring contracts for teams looking to shed salary. We have no desirable young players with bright futures outside of the core, and we don't have enticing draft picks to offer either. Danny clearly went all in on this team for the next several seasons. The only major change that will happen will be after next season when we lose Hayward and substitute his absurd contract for Tatum's deserved one. Our cap will still be tight and we won't have the necessary assets to make a move. That's why it was imperative for Danny to draft well these past couple seasons but he blew it. Instead of Robert Williams we could have had Mitchell Robinson. Instead of Langford we could have had Sekou Doumbouya. Instead of Grant Williams we could have had Bazley, Little or Claxton. Instead of Edwards we could have had Bol, McDaniels, Reid or Roby. It's insane how much high upside talent he passes over ever draft. That will keep us as pretenders for the foreseeable future. Good thing he traded away the rights to the #8 pick in 2018 in the Kyire trade. Who would want a full career of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Porter Jr., Anfernee Simons, etc anyway?


Blow it up.

He's not really wrong, though. We don't have a ton of avenues to improve beyond internal development and the picks Danny passed on have higher upside than the ones he took. And our draft threads prove it's not hindsight, a lot of people calling out those names (maybe not Simons). I do think Timelord and Langford still have some high end upside if they can stay healthy enough to realize it.

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