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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#281 » by JamesConway » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:41 pm

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JamesConway wrote:Sam Amick in the Drummond-segment of his latest article:

"Boston and Dallas, it's worth noting here at the top, are known to be looking for a big"


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If we're one of the top candidates for Drummond by next week, it would be very telling that Carlisle expect Porzingis to be out for a while and geting Drummond can salvage the season for a playoff run.

Nobody outside of that Mavs inner circle knows what's up with KP. and Cuban has kept a very tight lid on that even to Woj. Getting more talent in is always welcome news, but that also means KP will be out for a while for whatever reason. And if he comes back he'll probably play only under 20 mins a game after this scare. under 20 mins is essentially an NBA backup role.

Not sure, I think Drummond makes plenty of sense here alongside KP but I am also a firm believer in the idea that he'd be a much better PnR player here than in DET due to improved spacing and guard play. It's just an assumption though so I get the backlash from the no-to-Drummond-crowd.

KP, well. I was hoping that we'd have him sit for a few weeks anyways. His offense has been pathetic for his standards and to me it felt like he needed time off regardless. Even if it's just to get his head straight. It's an absolute joke how bad he is compared to his former performances. Physically he looked pretty good to me, but you don't just drop from the 74th percentile in the post to basically a single-digit number in that discipline. Smth was very off.

DAL is known for monitoring players' health/workload/stress and fatigue levels etc pretty extensively. I am pretty hopeful that we'll get this fixed or at least can keep it in check.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#282 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:43 pm

JamesConway wrote:Sam Amick in the Drummond-segment of his latest article:

"Boston and Dallas, it's worth noting here at the top, are known to be looking for a big"


Not really sure how Boston makes any trade for Drummond without including Hayward, and I don’t know if that’s a good idea for either team.

Dallas is in a decent position because they have a lot of players on good salaries, but if Detroit wants draft compensation it’ll be difficult other than some 2nd rounders. Lee, Wright (or Powell), and a couple of 2nds is likely the best that Dallas can/will part with
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#283 » by dirkules_41 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:15 pm

It's a shame NOLA is doing well at the moment, Favors would be kind of what we could deal with and not overly pricey.
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Post#284 » by arkuo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:21 pm

JamesConway wrote:Physically he looked pretty good to me, but you don't just drop from the 74th percentile in the post to basically a single-digit number in that discipline.


The extra long lay off to rest and rehab his knee didnt allow KP to lift any weights. Squats or dead lifts. Thereby losing muscle and strength in that area.

And the reason he gets pushed off the paint and looks really weak posting up is his legs got weaker due to the lack of muscle building in that recovery period. Any pro athlete that misses more than a year without working out will come back to work with flabby or untoned muscles. In KP's case, he lost both muscle and power. He needs time to build his body back to game shape. Particularly his legs and his core. This season is like a treadmill season for KP, just to break a sweat and take it easy. the coming seasons when he gets a heavier protein diet and gets those legs up to Yao Ming's levels, he's gonna be a tree trunk in the paint. No one can push him out.
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Post#285 » by Absinthe » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:51 am

I’m not seeing any trade the Mavs could make without giving up a ton of assets. Teams are looking for first round picks more than ever.
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Post#286 » by BlueSan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:26 am

I still say no trades.

Who would know I am going against the crowd :P
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Post#287 » by agentofatlas » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:39 am

dirkules_41 wrote:It's a shame NOLA is doing well at the moment, Favors would be kind of what we could deal with and not overly pricey.


The kind of big we really need imo.
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Post#288 » by Archx » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:15 am

BlueSan wrote:I still say no trades.

Who would know I am going against the crowd :P


Come one, they desperately need help under the rim. LAL and LAC are good for a reason. They have insane potential at rim protection with their bigs. Powell can't guard his shadow and Maxi is often simply not big enough.
Rick played both Maxi and Dwight in the 2nd half and they looked much better than those usual midget lineups. KP+Maxi is their best combo anyway but KP obviously can not play 48 mins and neither can Maxi :)
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Post#289 » by BlueSan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:56 pm

Basically sign free agents or deal with it is my approach
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Post#290 » by deb » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:49 pm

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BlueSan wrote:I still say no trades.

Who would know I am going against the crowd :P


Come one, they desperately need help under the rim. LAL and LAC are good for a reason. They have insane potential at rim protection with their bigs. Powell can't guard his shadow and Maxi is often simply not big enough.
Rick played both Maxi and Dwight in the 2nd half and they looked much better than those usual midget lineups. KP+Maxi is their best combo anyway but KP obviously can not play 48 mins and neither can Maxi :)


The Clippers have insane potential at rim protection? Really? Rotation of Zubac, Harrell, Green, Patterson and Harkless puts the fear of God in you? Really? Mavs problem in matching up against the Clippers is not rim protection, it's wing defense. The mavs need a better version of DFS while keeping DFS on the roster at the same time. 5th big would be nice just for the numbers sake and injury cover, but I'd prioritize wing defense over a big guy.
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Post#291 » by dirkforpres » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:55 pm

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Archx wrote:
BlueSan wrote:I still say no trades.

Who would know I am going against the crowd :P


Come one, they desperately need help under the rim. LAL and LAC are good for a reason. They have insane potential at rim protection with their bigs. Powell can't guard his shadow and Maxi is often simply not big enough.
Rick played both Maxi and Dwight in the 2nd half and they looked much better than those usual midget lineups. KP+Maxi is their best combo anyway but KP obviously can not play 48 mins and neither can Maxi :)


The Clippers have insane potential at rim protection? Really? Rotation of Zubac, Harrell, Green, Patterson and Harkless puts the fear of God in you? Really? Mavs problem in matching up against the Clippers is not rim protection, it's wing defense. The mavs need a better version of DFS while keeping DFS on the roster at the same time. 5th big would be nice just for the numbers sake and injury cover, but I'd prioritize wing defense over a big guy.


Clippers have the best 2 wing defenders in the league not to mention Beverley, it’s not at all the same
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Post#292 » by Archx » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:38 pm

deb wrote:
Archx wrote:
BlueSan wrote:I still say no trades.

Who would know I am going against the crowd :P


Come one, they desperately need help under the rim. LAL and LAC are good for a reason. They have insane potential at rim protection with their bigs. Powell can't guard his shadow and Maxi is often simply not big enough.
Rick played both Maxi and Dwight in the 2nd half and they looked much better than those usual midget lineups. KP+Maxi is their best combo anyway but KP obviously can not play 48 mins and neither can Maxi :)


The Clippers have insane potential at rim protection? Really? Rotation of Zubac, Harrell, Green, Patterson and Harkless puts the fear of God in you? Really? Mavs problem in matching up against the Clippers is not rim protection, it's wing defense. The mavs need a better version of DFS while keeping DFS on the roster at the same time. 5th big would be nice just for the numbers sake and injury cover, but I'd prioritize wing defense over a big guy.


What makes you think rim protection means only having a big center? They have Boban but i wouldn't say he is insanely effective at doing that. Obviously athletic players who can guard multiple positions are the best option, but on this Mavs team, i would trust only Maxi and KP to reliably protect the paint and other wing players from getting to the rim. Opposing players are dancing their way to the basket anytime they want, that is this teams biggest issue on defense. At least when KP plays, he manages to alter shots or forces them to shoot long range jumpers. But it feels like Mavs have 10 guards and no one can't defend on the perimeter.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#293 » by dirkules_41 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:36 pm

Anyone got a current unsigned free agent list?
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Post#294 » by deb » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:36 pm

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Come one, they desperately need help under the rim. LAL and LAC are good for a reason. They have insane potential at rim protection with their bigs. Powell can't guard his shadow and Maxi is often simply not big enough.
Rick played both Maxi and Dwight in the 2nd half and they looked much better than those usual midget lineups. KP+Maxi is their best combo anyway but KP obviously can not play 48 mins and neither can Maxi :)


The Clippers have insane potential at rim protection? Really? Rotation of Zubac, Harrell, Green, Patterson and Harkless puts the fear of God in you? Really? Mavs problem in matching up against the Clippers is not rim protection, it's wing defense. The mavs need a better version of DFS while keeping DFS on the roster at the same time. 5th big would be nice just for the numbers sake and injury cover, but I'd prioritize wing defense over a big guy.


What makes you think rim protection means only having a big center? They have Boban but i wouldn't say he is insanely effective at doing that. Obviously athletic players who can guard multiple positions are the best option, but on this Mavs team, i would trust only Maxi and KP to reliably protect the paint and other wing players from getting to the rim. Opposing players are dancing their way to the basket anytime they want, that is this teams biggest issue on defense. At least when KP plays, he manages to alter shots or forces them to shoot long range jumpers. But it feels like Mavs have 10 guards and no one can't defend on the perimeter.


Exactly, this team needs versatile wing defenders not help under the rim.
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Post#295 » by arkuo » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:44 pm

If the Mavs brass has been watching these games closely, its because their guys are being beaten off the dribble in the perimeter. Getting someone like Convington will shore up that defense. Covington + DFS chasing the opponents' best wing players should make a big difference. And he is available. Wright + Jackson + GSW 2nd rounder. Do it!
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Post#296 » by J_T » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:01 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:Anyone got a current unsigned free agent list?

Devin Harris, 3 years, 25 million.
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Post#297 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:43 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:Anyone got a current unsigned free agent list?

Jamal Crawford and Pau Gasol should be available.

Hard to find a full list.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#298 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:12 pm

deb wrote:
Archx wrote:
deb wrote:
The Clippers have insane potential at rim protection? Really? Rotation of Zubac, Harrell, Green, Patterson and Harkless puts the fear of God in you? Really? Mavs problem in matching up against the Clippers is not rim protection, it's wing defense. The mavs need a better version of DFS while keeping DFS on the roster at the same time. 5th big would be nice just for the numbers sake and injury cover, but I'd prioritize wing defense over a big guy.


What makes you think rim protection means only having a big center? They have Boban but i wouldn't say he is insanely effective at doing that. Obviously athletic players who can guard multiple positions are the best option, but on this Mavs team, i would trust only Maxi and KP to reliably protect the paint and other wing players from getting to the rim. Opposing players are dancing their way to the basket anytime they want, that is this teams biggest issue on defense. At least when KP plays, he manages to alter shots or forces them to shoot long range jumpers. But it feels like Mavs have 10 guards and no one can't defend on the perimeter.


Exactly, this team needs versatile wing defenders not help under the rim.

Agree with the first part, but the second part?????
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#299 » by dirkules_41 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:37 am

Teffer10 wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:Anyone got a current unsigned free agent list?

Jamal Crawford and Pau Gasol should be available.

Hard to find a full list.

That's why I asked :D

Crawford is too much JJB.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#300 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:07 am

A little light relief. The NYK board was in semi-meltown over rumours of trading for Drummond. And then K-Dot came up with this work of art. I think you'll enjoy!

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