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Post#821 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:54 pm

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Umbooki wrote:It's fun to admire CP3's game when we're not the ones paying him $40mil a year. He's filthy.


Yea', I think it's malpractice by 6ers/Bucks to not pursue him. They should see themselves in win now timelines

I don't see us in that same win-now frame and I'd be okay with not walking that line

I agree about the Bucks, but I'm not sure about Sixers. Harris and Al has equely terrible deals for even longer time. After all the work Collangelo/Brand has done, they simply don't have enough assets for such a risky deal


Tobias and a first/slew of their seconds might get it done

They gotta shake something, I thinks
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Post#822 » by Mos_Heat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:02 pm

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Yea', I think it's malpractice by 6ers/Bucks to not pursue him. They should see themselves in win now timelines

I don't see us in that same win-now frame and I'd be okay with not walking that line

I agree about the Bucks, but I'm not sure about Sixers. Harris and Al has equely terrible deals for even longer time. After all the work Collangelo/Brand has done, they simply don't have enough assets for such a risky deal


Tobias and a first/slew of there seconds might get it done

They gotta shake something, I thinks

Eh, Embiid and CP are too injury prone PG/C combo to build your title hopes. Need a marginal move for this szn, like Etwan Moore or something. You can always trade Simmons for Beal in the future
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Post#824 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:25 pm

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AirP. wrote:Why pay 40 mil for a great player when you just pay 27 million to 2 players and get little to no production from them. In Miami's unique situation I'd be fine replacing them and sending someone else out to have another great player on Miami's roster. It just boggles my mind that fans consider overpayment of a great player is way worse than paying 2/3s that for basically no production from multiple players but that ship has sailed at least for this season, OKC would have to have a good/great offer to move CP3 now, they've trashed their chances at a high draft pick next year.


Yeah, but those contracts run out in 2021. Whereas CP3 will have another year of over 47mil coming to him. So, you can kiss any free agents goodbye at that point, if you're stuck with that contract. It's really not that complicated why Miami is ok with those 27mil contracts which expire in 2021 over CP3s. Plus adding him doesn't guarantee a ring for Miami, not to mention his age and injury history.

It's quite simple IMO.

CP3 is amazing until his hammy flares up in late April/Early May. It sucks, but it's usually how this thing plays out. This quality of play isn't guaranteed 3-4 months from now, so I'm enjoying it while it's still happening.


That is true, but it is a risk, but a risk I'd be willing to take because unless an injury happens CP3, Butler and Bam have a chance against anyone, no they're not elite scorers but they're near elite defenders and 2 of the 3 are clutch players, Those types of players that go deep into the playoffs unless you just happen to have 2-3 of the top players in the NBA.

I get maintaining cap space for that slight chance Giannis would pick to go to Miami (although Miami could make trades to create the cap space that summer) but not when you have a really good team who has a chance(although not strong right now) of making it to the finals, I just don't get handcuffing the roster because of cap space in 2 years. Miami fell into a very unique situation in 2010, it wasn't about cap space, it was about top level players wanting to play together, enough to not take the max to make sure it happened.
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Post#825 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:37 pm

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Yeah, but those contracts run out in 2021. Whereas CP3 will have another year of over 47mil coming to him. So, you can kiss any free agents goodbye at that point, if you're stuck with that contract. It's really not that complicated why Miami is ok with those 27mil contracts which expire in 2021 over CP3s. Plus adding him doesn't guarantee a ring for Miami, not to mention his age and injury history.

It's quite simple IMO.

CP3 is amazing until his hammy flares up in late April/Early May. It sucks, but it's usually how this thing plays out. This quality of play isn't guaranteed 3-4 months from now, so I'm enjoying it while it's still happening.


Yea', that's my man's but he's name brand Lowry. Beard probably could have took him to the promise Land if not for GS, him and Giannas would be dope tho

Wait, CP3 that many people think could be the greatest point guard of all time is just a name brand Lowery? Wow. I get Lowry is a good PG but he's not in CP3s class. A simple look at them playing head to head would show you that, very rarely would Lowry have better games then CP3 because defense comes into play and of course, CP3 is a superior player.

It seems to me that this cap space for 2021 really distorts people's view of players, basically justifying why not to consider aquiring them and also just being happy that Miami is just better then they were last year. It'll be highly interesting if Miami doesn't make a big move, loses some key role players this summer, takes a step back record wise and goes into the summer of 2021 a lesser team with an aging max star(short window with him) and possibly the young guys(Herro, Nunn, Robinson) not improving much in their 2nd year to make Miami a lesser desired destination. IT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT NEXT YEARS TEAM MAY BE WORSE RECORD WISE and those optics may be a big factor in hindering the Heat's ability to get a top tier free agent.

Just because this team is doing well right now doesn't mean the same success happens next year, it could but it's not guaranteed.

If 2021 was this #()$)(# important, why in the world did Miami give up a good player in Richardson, a #1 pick to move Whiteside when both of those would have help strengthened Miami's odds at getting a top tier player vs hey, we have 32 year old Butler, come play 2 seasons with him before he's gone or no longer the same type of impact player! It's just a very confusing move if 2021 is that important.
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Post#826 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:10 pm

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Umbooki wrote:CP3 is amazing until his hammy flares up in late April/Early May. It sucks, but it's usually how this thing plays out. This quality of play isn't guaranteed 3-4 months from now, so I'm enjoying it while it's still happening.


Yea', that's my man's but he's name brand Lowry. Beard probably could have took him to the promise Land if not for GS, him and Giannas would be dope tho

Wait, CP3 that many people think could be the greatest point guard of all time is just a name brand Lowery? Wow. I get Lowry is a good PG but he's not in CP3s class. A simple look at them playing head to head would show you that, very rarely would Lowry have better games then CP3 because defense comes into play and of course, CP3 is a superior player.

It seems to me that this cap space for 2021 really distorts people's view of players, basically justifying why not to consider aquiring them and also just being happy that Miami is just better then they were last year. It'll be highly interesting if Miami doesn't make a big move, loses some key role players this summer, takes a step back record wise and goes into the summer of 2021 a lesser team with an aging max star(short window with him) and possibly the young guys(Herro, Nunn, Robinson) not improving much in their 2nd year to make Miami a lesser desired destination. IT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT NEXT YEARS TEAM MAY BE WORSE RECORD WISE and those optics may be a big factor in hindering the Heat's ability to get a top tier free agent.

Just because this team is doing well right now doesn't mean the same success happens next year, it could but it's not guaranteed.

If 2021 was this #()$)(# important, why in the world did Miami give up a good player in Richardson, a #1 pick to move Whiteside when both of those would have help strengthened Miami's odds at getting a top tier player vs hey, we have 32 year old Butler, come play 2 seasons with him before he's gone or no longer the same type of impact player! It's just a very confusing move if 2021 is that important.


Man, we get this alarmist stuff every season, just for a different reason(thankfully it's not Rex's bold letters this yr). Please calm down.

CP3 is in a different class than Lowry, that's why I correctly labeled him 'name brand' Lowry- totally different. I don't give a huff about any 2021 capspace and never championed that. The only fact here that matters is one that everyone who is open to it can see clearly: CP3 is a massive and expensive risk for any ball club and adding him to this ball club would likely only get us to the doorstep of contending. You want there to be a trade to get us there, but there isn't currently. I don't expect apostasy, you may be right about CP, but at the current odds I rather not know
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Post#827 » by dolphinatik » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:43 pm

Nice to see Jrich rip the celtics a new one to put us further ahead.
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Post#829 » by QUIZ » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:55 pm

We're only four games in the loss column behind the Bucks for the first seed and we play them 3 more times. Let's shoot for the stars, keep pushing.
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Post#830 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:10 pm

I think the Heat always valued Paul that is why they attempted to acquire him. Paul play is not unexpected. So I don't think the Heat will increase their offer. I believe it's Jrue Holiday or just a trade to move on from Waiters will happen.

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Post#832 » by MartyConlonJr » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:08 pm

QUIZ wrote:We're only four games in the loss column behind the Bucks for the first seed and we play them 3 more times. Let's shoot for the stars, keep pushing.


We only play them 2 more times. They are one of the teams we only play 3 games against (2 on the road).

Toronto is another team we only play 3 times. Looks like Detroit and Brooklyn the others.
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Post#833 » by Bourne85 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:23 pm

If the Bucks get CP3, and he remains healthy, they should win it all. If I’m the Bucks I go for it. They are too close to a title to not go for it. Makes 100% sense. For the Heat, makes no sense whatsoever. We don’t have the team that Paul puts us over the top. 76ers Would also be very difficult to handle if they got Chris.

This deadline could be very bad for us if one of the East contenders gets a guy like him, and the Heat can’t make much noise with Winslow back injury, Waiters suspensions, tanking value on guys like Kelly etc. The title will be won at the trade deadline imo
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Post#834 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:17 pm

I do wonder if KD's belittling of Perkins will come back to haunt him with current and future teammates who are supposed to do the dirty work, setting screens, playing defense while he gets to take a ton of shots? Yes, he should be the one taking tons of shot but you don't belittle the other guys who are working their #@( off trying to win with their contributions.
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Post#835 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:53 am

Didwindee is a crazy rim attacker tbh
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Post#836 » by IggieCC » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:55 am

Mos_Heat wrote:Didwindee is a crazy rim attacker tbh

wong thread mos? LMAO

i mean technically this thread encompasses everything NBA basketball but ya :lol:

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Post#837 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:58 am

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Mos_Heat wrote:Didwindee is a crazy rim attacker tbh

wong thread mos? LMAO

i mean technically this thread encompasses everything NBA basketball but ya :lol:

how's the winter in Russia mos?

I prefer ATB thread, less crowded

Very warm tbh

Climate change, you know
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Post#838 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:00 am

Mavs just throwing the ball like crazy
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Post#839 » by Dr_Heat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:02 am

I told you guys Dinwiddie was a Heat killer
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Post#840 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:08 am

LOL, that's an all time flagrant for Dwight
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