Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[ParticleMan]

I think people have gotten the wrong idea about our rebuild stage after our 25-8 start. this was fool's gold, we are not a contender right now, plain and simple. and the thing is, that was never the plan. this was not meant to be our year, it was in the next 2-4 years that we are intended to be contending.

we need either jaylen or tatum to develop into a bona fide mvp candidate, or else we need to package them to get one. both of them are still very young, and they've both shown tantalizing hints, so it's not a crazy to hopefully hit on one of those. we've got a ridiculous number of young players, we've got to see which ones are going to be genuine contributors, which ones we can trade for an upgrade, and which ones are duds. then we need to consolidate around tatum/brown/kemba (as the vet 3rd wheel), and put the right pieces around them like a proper big man.

it's all coming. the plan is in action. but it's a couple of years away.

[MagicBagley18]

We’d be losing a facilitator in Hayward. Gallinari is not that ( unless I’m misunderstanding.)

Uh yeah is he. Guess you haven’t seen Gallinari play much? His game is very similar to Hayward’s.

Gallo is a decent passer, can run the pick-and-roll and can drain threes, which forces his defender to step out of the paint to deal with him and opens up lanes for others. That’s the definition of a facilitator.

I have seen Gallinari play a bunch. I disagree that he’s a facilitator.

Nor could he bring the ball up the court and play point guard in spot duty

[CelticsLV]

Didn’t they trade or cut 4/5ths of the starting lineup of an ECF team like 2.5 years ago? Because they knew that team, while gritty and competitive, wasn’t going to be a legitimate contender?

I think now they’re seeing what JB/JT/Smart can become, which makes sense for now since you want those assets to mature.

That clearly falls under the "try not to overspend" category. Horford was looking for big longterm contract, Morris was also looking for bigger contract, same with Rozier. Baynes was traded to make room for Walker. Imo Walker really doesn't bring you closer to title than those 4 guys. But the moves made sense from money perspective.

IT era was pretty much the same. This current team isn't closer to the title than IT, Horford team. Maybe better at the top but clearly worse depth wise.

Ainge did go after KD, PG, and AD, so not prioritizing titles may be a bit of mis-characterization. Cs don't do much improvement on the margins though. Not a fan of our drafting outside of the lottery since 2013. We also don't usually make midseason trades to acquire playoff help.

We have three incoming first round draft picks. No real star to chase after on the horizon. Only four guys on the roster have at least 5 years of NBA experience. We have enough young guys to develop. It's not insane to expect at least one of those 1st round picks to be moved for veteran help and bench depth. Right?

He really went only after KD because it cost nothing but cap space. George and AD was clearly the case of "give them to us for bag of chips, otherwise we'll be fine".

Obviously I would trade Bucks and our pick for bench help but just listening to the same **** from Ainge like every prior trade deadline takes the wind out of those sails.

Ainge also seems oblivious to the fact this bench is doodoo.

[GoGreen]

I'm not expecting a trade because Danny has become a hoarder with his damn picks. What's he going to do with 2 late fists? Draft another undersized 4 and a 6 foot guard?

I'm frustrated. But it is what it is. Last few years he stays put at the deadline, so I'll just assume he'll do the same here unless there's something out there that can make us contenders, is a no brainer bc there's no risk, or adds some long term benefit at, again, low risk to him.

[MagicBagley18]

I think people have gotten the wrong idea about our rebuild stage after our 25-8 start. this was fool's gold, we are not a contender right now, plain and simple. and the thing is, that was never the plan. this was not meant to be our year, it was in the next 2-4 years that we are intended to be contending.

we need either jaylen or tatum to develop into a bona fide mvp candidate, or else we need to package them to get one. both of them are still very young, and they've both shown tantalizing hints, so it's not a crazy to hopefully hit on one of those. we've got a ridiculous number of young players, we've got to see which ones are going to be genuine contributors, which ones we can trade for an upgrade, and which ones are duds. then we need to consolidate around tatum/brown/kemba (as the vet 3rd wheel), and put the right pieces around them like a proper big man.

it's all coming. the plan is in action. but it's a couple of years away.

Dead on

[Celts17Pride]

The only trade Ainge would do with draft picks is a trade that make the Celtics better for the next 2-3 years. Ainge is not going to give away any draft pick for a rental unless he was confident he could sign the player for the next 2-3 years

[Feed Your Head]

I think people have gotten the wrong idea about our rebuild stage after our 25-8 start. this was fool's gold, we are not a contender right now, plain and simple. and the thing is, that was never the plan. this was not meant to be our year, it was in the next 2-4 years that we are intended to be contending.

we need either jaylen or tatum to develop into a bona fide mvp candidate, or else we need to package them to get one. both of them are still very young, and they've both shown tantalizing hints, so it's not a crazy to hopefully hit on one of those. we've got a ridiculous number of young players, we've got to see which ones are going to be genuine contributors, which ones we can trade for an upgrade, and which ones are duds. then we need to consolidate around tatum/brown/kemba (as the vet 3rd wheel), and put the right pieces around them like a proper big man.

it's all coming. the plan is in action. but it's a couple of years away.

Dead on

Seriously. I know it bothers some people to hear it, but it's not about this season. And it's not being plastic, or being a pessimist, but this team is not going to compete with the Bucks/Lakers/Clippers this year. And no realistic trade is going to change that.

Everything long term hinges on Tatum/Jaylen blowing up, especially now that the Grizzlies pick is losing value by the day.

[zoyathedestroya]

Let's go Celtics! #AllAbout18 #ButNotThisSeason

[MagicBagley18]

Let's go Celtics! #AllAbout18 #ButNotThisSeason

Hahaha

[CTCeltsFan34]

Wouldn't plastic be wanting to make some trades after losing 3 games for the first time all season?

Based off of my experience being on this board for years , "plastic " a term used by select posters refers to any poster who dares criticize the team after they legitimately play like crap.if you dont blindly view the team as a title contender your "plastic" due to your melting at the slightest rough patch

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[Celts17Pride]

My let’s have fun trade of the day:

Celtics trade Langford, Poirier, Ojeleye and Mil 1st
Minny trades Covington.

Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Theis
Smart, Covington, Kanter

Covington on very reasonable deal the next few years

Minny can pair Langford and Culver together

[zoyathedestroya]

Late-season FA pickup:

Spoiler:

We do need a big.

[31to6]

I start to think ownership and Ainge doesn't even prioritize titles. Looks like the plan is to keep this team good/very good for as long as possible while not overspending. The rest is "whatever happens, happens". I guess it's good enough for normies and great for business. The usual comments about sustained "success", not looking for quick fixes etc. are pretty telling.

I don't expect any trades. Especially if it involves giving up picks.

Didn’t they trade or cut 4/5ths of the starting lineup of an ECF team like 2.5 years ago? Because they knew that team, while gritty and competitive, wasn’t going to be a legitimate contender?

I think now they’re seeing what JB/JT/Smart can become, which makes sense for now since you want those assets to mature.

That clearly falls under the "try not to overspend" category. Horford was looking for big longterm contract, Morris was also looking for bigger contract, same with Rozier. Baynes was traded to make room for Walker. Imo Walker really doesn't bring you closer to title than those 4 guys. But the moves made sense from money perspective.

IT era was pretty much the same. This current team isn't closer to the title than IT, Horford team. Maybe better at the top but clearly worse depth wise.

I don’t know why you’re talking about this past summer when I was talking about 2.5 years ago when Danny and ownership blew up an ECF team, including trading its folk hero leader, because they wanted to compete for titles and not just be really good.

[Dannyboy36]

Let's go Celtics! #AllAbout18 #ButNotThisSeason

Perfect.

[SLCceltic]

I think people have gotten the wrong idea about our rebuild stage after our 25-8 start. this was fool's gold, we are not a contender right now, plain and simple. and the thing is, that was never the plan. this was not meant to be our year, it was in the next 2-4 years that we are intended to be contending.

we need either jaylen or tatum to develop into a bona fide mvp candidate, or else we need to package them to get one. both of them are still very young, and they've both shown tantalizing hints, so it's not a crazy to hopefully hit on one of those. we've got a ridiculous number of young players, we've got to see which ones are going to be genuine contributors, which ones we can trade for an upgrade, and which ones are duds. then we need to consolidate around tatum/brown/kemba (as the vet 3rd wheel), and put the right pieces around them like a proper big man.

it's all coming. the plan is in action. but it's a couple of years away.

Couldn't disagree more with the sentiment here ...DA isn't looking to hang back for 2-4yrs while NBA is so wide-open AND we have 4 allstars plus smart

He will not force a trade but he definitely is not sitting around waiting on a 2 year plan. He currently has plenty of non-core assets to trade for a bench diff maker or 2

Plus will AD and everyother superstar stay healthy??? The NBA is wide open !!
A starting big like aldridge who can shoot (pipe dream i know ha) or 2 big time bench vets, maybe even just 1 perfect bench vet ....our problem is not talent on the bench its UTTER lack of experience, much less Play Off exp!!

All NBA teams are fundamentally flawed right now, only team that scares me is frickn Philly cause we cannot beat them so far. I expect a move or 2 for some vet help and we may even nab our starting big for foreseeable future. Barring some kind of golden guarantee that rwIII will be healthy, DA will make a move(s)

[CelticsLV]

Didn’t they trade or cut 4/5ths of the starting lineup of an ECF team like 2.5 years ago? Because they knew that team, while gritty and competitive, wasn’t going to be a legitimate contender?

I think now they’re seeing what JB/JT/Smart can become, which makes sense for now since you want those assets to mature.

That clearly falls under the "try not to overspend" category. Horford was looking for big longterm contract, Morris was also looking for bigger contract, same with Rozier. Baynes was traded to make room for Walker. Imo Walker really doesn't bring you closer to title than those 4 guys. But the moves made sense from money perspective.

IT era was pretty much the same. This current team isn't closer to the title than IT, Horford team. Maybe better at the top but clearly worse depth wise.

I don’t know why you’re talking about this past summer when I was talking about 2.5 years ago when Danny and ownership blew up an ECF team, including trading its folk hero leader, because they wanted to compete for titles and not just be really good.

Our closest 2 shots at finals turned out to be without the 2 guys the roster was blown up for And the one season with them was major **** show.

Besides, there was major financial motivation behind those moves. Trading, releasing players who were nearing new contracts or expired. And I'm not saying those were wrong moves. No surprise they ended up to be great financially and great for longterm "success" but the team was stuck in same place and even got worse. But when he needed to make some bench additions and use those picks he got cold feet again and talked about the team not being good enough to contend, they are not looking for quick fixes and so on. Did you miss all of that bullcrap if you say "they wanted to compete for the titles"?

[Wes-J]

For better or worse our future is tied to the success of Tatum and Brown. There's a slim to none chance Ainge can swing a trade for superstar in the season or in the summer, so we are who we are unless he's willing to move Hayward for a upgrade, but there lies the rub. There's no singular available player better than him. How about trading him for two lesser players? That would make no sense. Logic says to keep him.

Tough spot. Not a lot of options so at most I see a minor deal to be made, most likely tho none at all by Feb 6.

[klemen4]

Kemba
Brown
Tatum

Based on talent and position are only keepers. We can than add Smart due to his defense, heart&soul and contract.

All others should be available to improve roster.

We need starting PF and C. The time imo is now...

Picks are highly overated ...all, also MEM should be available.

Maybe, maybe we could get M.Turner sending Hayward+Romeo...2 local guys to Indy.

[Roddy]

Some people will hate it, but right now the best contract that we can trade is Smart's contract.

And it's not like he is having a great year. He is average at best in defense, and back with his bad habits on offense (still our best passer IMO).

[Higgs Boston]

A good option would be mitchell robinson if the knicks trade for drummond.