Anzejs Pasecniks 2 way deal to standard NBA contract

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

I'm still not at all clear -- has this happened? I.e. has Pasecniks been moved to a standard contract? If so, who was subtracted from the roster -- & how -- to make room?

I'm also unclear why this is being done. Johnathan Williams was quite a lot better than Pasecniks; why did we not sign him?

Williams better than AP?

I’m not sure I agree. There are many components to a good b-ball player as you often, rightfully, point out.

Rim protection?: probably Williams, but not overwhelmingly.
Rebounding?: same
Scoring?: AP, by a lot
Passing?: neither of them pass well
Steals?: idk

I think AP has more room to grow in all of these areas given his age, athleticism, apparent work ethic.

If I were Tommy, I think I’d have made the same choice between the two.

Of course I’d have preferred we kept both and got rid of awful, no good, no try Thomas.

[nate33]

I don't think we know enough about Williams to compare him to Pacesniks. The guy only played 123 minutes and had a usage rate of 8.8%. I just don't think his efficient shooting numbers have much value in that context. I do know that the offense was really bad with him and Mahinmi together. It was real difficult for guys like McRae and IT to get clean looks when teams didn't have to guard either frontcourt player. To be fair, it's not like Pacesniks is drawing defensive attention either. But you can generally live with one offensive player being useless, and that one guy is typically your center. Having a PF with no offensive ability is a real liability in today's game.

[nate33]

Well, it's official:

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It's interesting that they got Williams back and convinced him to play on a two-way. I assume he was making more playing in Israel.

I'd also like to understand the ramifications of waiving Miles. Do we still have that $4.3 DPE or did we have to renounce it?

[nate33]

It's disappointing that they waived Miles instead of Thomas.

[payitforward]

It's disappointing that they waived Miles instead of Thomas.

Only justification I can think of is that there's some minute possibility someone gives us... something for IT?

[nate33]

It's disappointing that they waived Miles instead of Thomas.

Only justification I can think of is that there's some minute possibility someone gives us... something for IT?

Or maybe they are able to waive Miles yet still retain the DPE. In which case, why not waive Miles? He's not going to play again anyway.

[nate33]

Hmmmm.

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So I guess waiving Miles was a no-brainer. His only remaining utility was as cap ballast. They decided it was more important to lock up Pacesniks than it was to maintain some trade deadline flexibility to bring back a guy with a $9M-ish contract.

[nate33]

So we have a roster of 15, two guys on 2-way contracts, and a $4.3M DPE that we can't use unless we trade or cut someone.

Every remaining contract on the 15-man roster is guaranteed for the rest of the year. Only 5 guys are expiring:
Bertans
McRae
Thomas
Mahinmi
Payton

We have 10 guys already under contract for next year:
Wall
Beal
Brown
Hachimura
Bryant
Ish
Schofield
Bonga
Wagner
Pacesniks (though maybe next year is non-guaranteed)

We will add to that 2 picks plus presumably Bertans. We are probably strongly inclined to retain Mathews and McRae as well.

It looks like next year's roster is already in place, unless competing offers for Bertans and McRae get out of hand.

[Wizardspride]

So we have a roster of 15, two guys on 2-way contracts, and a $4.3M DPE that we can't use unless we trade or cut someone.

Every remaining contract on the 15-man roster is guaranteed for the rest of the year. Only 5 guys are expiring:
Bertans
McRae
Thomas
Mahinmi
Payton

We have 10 guys already under contract for next year:
Wall
Beal
Brown
Hachimura
Bryant
Ish
Schofield
Bonga
Wagner
Pacesniks (though maybe next year is non-guaranteed)

We will add to that 2 picks plus presumably Bertans. We are probably strongly inclined to retain Mathews and McRae as well.

It looks like next year's roster is already in place, unless competing offers for Bertans and McRae get out of hand.

Ya know, that roster doesn't look that bad to me.

[gambitx777]

Well in that case we bassically traded Howard for a trade exception ? Fair enough. As for Williams. We probably paid him the full amount not just the min amount that was on his NG contract and asked him to wait and we would sign him to a two way and let him keep the money. It's a round about way to pay the two way guys more money. Sign them to a non guaranteed contract, cut them but pay them the full amount and only the guarantee counts towards the cap. Then sign them to a two way. I think that's how that works I'm not sure. So the kid might have ended up getting what ever he was owed from the over seas contract, the money we paid him for the first deal and the two way.

Hmmmm.

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So I guess waiving Miles was a no-brainer. His only remaining utility was as cap ballast. They decided it was more important to lock up Pacesniks than it was to maintain some trade deadline flexibility to bring back a guy with a $9M-ish contract.

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[Ruzious]

Tbh, with Bryant back and Mahinmi here and Wagner coming back at some point… I don't get why they promoted AP. They should have kept some roster wiggle room, imo.

[payitforward]

...We have 10 guys already under contract for next year:
Wall
Beal
Brown
Hachimura
Bryant
Ish
Schofield
Bonga
Wagner
Pacesniks (though maybe next year is non-guaranteed)...

Neither Bonga nor Pasecniks is guaranteed for next year. I'm sure Bonga will be back, but AP seems less likely to me. So, make that 9.

...We will add to that 2 picks plus presumably Bertans. We are probably strongly inclined to retain Mathews and McRae as well...

Certainly the 2 picks plus Mathews (b/c of his low cost & upside). Which takes us to 12.

It looks like next year's roster is already in place, unless competing offers for Bertans and McRae get out of hand.

Bertans is a question mark, because of the potential to lose him to an offer we don't want to or can't match. McRae shouldn't be too expensive & is worth his salary.

If we assume we keep one of Bertans & McRae, we'll have 2 open roster spots -- after having added 2 players in the draft. If both those other 2 spots were taken by young guys (e.g. maybe we buy another R2 pick?), we'd be moving forward in the way we need to, IMO.

[gambitx777]

McRae has the BMLE written all over him 2 years at 3.3 per year.

...We have 10 guys already under contract for next year:
Wall
Beal
Brown
Hachimura
Bryant
Ish
Schofield
Bonga
Wagner
Pacesniks (though maybe next year is non-guaranteed)...

Neither Bonga nor Pasecniks is guaranteed for next year. I'm sure Bonga will be back, but AP seems less likely to me. So, make that 9.

...We will add to that 2 picks plus presumably Bertans. We are probably strongly inclined to retain Mathews and McRae as well...

Certainly the 2 picks plus Mathews (b/c of his low cost & upside). Which takes us to 12.

It looks like next year's roster is already in place, unless competing offers for Bertans and McRae get out of hand.

Bertans is a question mark, because of the potential to lose him to an offer we don't want to or can't match. McRae shouldn't be too expensive & is worth his salary.

If we assume we keep one of Bertans & McRae, we'll have 2 open roster spots -- after having added 2 players in the draft. If both those other 2 spots were taken by young guys (e.g. maybe we buy another R2 pick?), we'd be moving forward in the way we need to, IMO.

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[gambitx777]

I think Ian's going to get traded. No can play alot of 4 with Rui and bertains can play 25 a night at SF.

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