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Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM

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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#61 » by TheBabyMaker » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:16 pm

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TheBabyMaker wrote:Beal -10 +/-, 25pts on 25 shots 0-7 from 3 and 3 turnovers. Yeah that's a guy trying to get to the allstar game instead of helping his team out by setting out until healthy.

It's the 0 for 7 from 3 that makes me use a word I haven't used in 20 years - befuddles. Wth (I've used variations of that a lot more). He was going to be a great 3 point shooter. Now, he's Mahinmi level. How is that possible?

Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just edit: stop shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.
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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#62 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:52 pm

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TheBabyMaker wrote:Beal -10 +/-, 25pts on 25 shots 0-7 from 3 and 3 turnovers. Yeah that's a guy trying to get to the allstar game instead of helping his team out by setting out until healthy.

It's the 0 for 7 from 3 that makes me use a word I haven't used in 20 years - befuddles. Wth (I've used variations of that a lot more). He was going to be a great 3 point shooter. Now, he's Mahinmi level. How is that possible?

Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.

I can always tell when he's gonna miss - he just doesn't get himself set right. Very frustrating.
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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#63 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:31 am

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TheBabyMaker wrote:Beal -10 +/-, 25pts on 25 shots 0-7 from 3 and 3 turnovers. Yeah that's a guy trying to get to the allstar game instead of helping his team out by setting out until healthy.

It's the 0 for 7 from 3 that makes me use a word I haven't used in 20 years - befuddles. Wth (I've used variations of that a lot more). He was going to be a great 3 point shooter. Now, he's Mahinmi level. How is that possible?

Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just edit: stop shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.


"I've earned the right".

In my opinion, some players think that way after they've been lauded with praise and had some level of success. All star appearances, playoffs, YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE STARTS ... Certain guys know they can get theirs on offense when in rhythm; so, they just keep shooting even if it takes 25-30 shots with at least a dozen of them very questionable. They feel it's okay if they shoot 5 or 6 bricks. They're not benchers. They don't go to the end of the bench after failing to get back on defense. They have a bit of carte blanche when it comes to forcing shots, shooting early on the clock.

In Beal's case, I think he's basically a team player and mostly unselfish.

However, his first game back instead of easing his way in he comes back in alpha mode. This is as much on the coach as the player IMO. Gregg Popovich might only use a returning player sparingly. Twenty minutes and even less is the player isn't in rhythm the first game back. Scott Brooks, OTOH, doesn't have that kind of cache. He can't piss off Wall or Beal or his ass is fired.

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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#64 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:32 am

That was PURE SPECULATION.

I'm not in the locker room.

It could just as easily be that the coach encourages hero ball and wants Beal to shoot it 30 times, 40 times...you know I'm exaggerating.
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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#65 » by Meliorus » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:34 am

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TheBabyMaker wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's the 0 for 7 from 3 that makes me use a word I haven't used in 20 years - befuddles. Wth (I've used variations of that a lot more). He was going to be a great 3 point shooter. Now, he's Mahinmi level. How is that possible?

Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.

I can always tell when he's gonna miss - he just doesn't get himself set right. Very frustrating.


For me, Beal is 3x the catch and shoot 3 point shooter than he is off the dribble shooter (unlike guys like Curry, Lillard and Harden). But he rarely gets the catch and shoot 3's anymore because he isn't off-ball very much.
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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#66 » by TheBabyMaker » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:45 am

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Ruzious wrote:It's the 0 for 7 from 3 that makes me use a word I haven't used in 20 years - befuddles. Wth (I've used variations of that a lot more). He was going to be a great 3 point shooter. Now, he's Mahinmi level. How is that possible?

Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just edit: stop shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.


"I've earned the right".

In my opinion, some players think that way after they've been lauded with praise and had some level of success. All star appearances, playoffs, YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE STARTS ... Certain guys know they can get theirs on offense when in rhythm; so, they just keep shooting even if it takes 25-30 shots with at least a dozen of them very questionable. They feel it's okay if they shoot 5 or 6 bricks. They're not benchers. They don't go to the end of the bench after failing to get back on defense. They have a bit of carte blanche when it comes to forcing shots, shooting early on the clock.

In Beal's case, I think he's basically a team player and mostly unselfish.

However, his first game back instead of easing his way in he comes back in alpha mode. This is as much on the coach as the player IMO. Gregg Popovich might only use a returning player sparingly. Twenty minutes and even less is the player isn't in rhythm the first game back. Scott Brooks, OTOH, doesn't have that kind of cache. He can't piss off Wall or Beal or his ass is fired.

Simple.


I agree, but sometimes as a baller especially in his situation. He should think more team play instead of himself. He talks team play and than when you watch the Wiz play its a complete opposite. Beal is a new alpha, lord knows whats going to happen when Wall comes back. Beal is unselfish for the most part, and so is that other Guy.
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Re: Game 39: Wizards (13-25) vs Jazz (26-12) Sun, 1/12 @3:30 PM 

Post#67 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:08 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TheBabyMaker wrote:Sad part that most of them were "BRICKS", not even close to going in. I'm like just edit: stop shooting them already. He hurt the Wizards more than he helped them last night.


"I've earned the right".

In my opinion, some players think that way after they've been lauded with praise and had some level of success. All star appearances, playoffs, YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE STARTS ... Certain guys know they can get theirs on offense when in rhythm; so, they just keep shooting even if it takes 25-30 shots with at least a dozen of them very questionable. They feel it's okay if they shoot 5 or 6 bricks. They're not benchers. They don't go to the end of the bench after failing to get back on defense. They have a bit of carte blanche when it comes to forcing shots, shooting early on the clock.

In Beal's case, I think he's basically a team player and mostly unselfish.

However, his first game back instead of easing his way in he comes back in alpha mode. This is as much on the coach as the player IMO. Gregg Popovich might only use a returning player sparingly. Twenty minutes and even less is the player isn't in rhythm the first game back. Scott Brooks, OTOH, doesn't have that kind of cache. He can't piss off Wall or Beal or his ass is fired.

Simple.


I agree, but sometimes as a baller especially in his situation. He should think more team play instead of himself. He talks team play and than when you watch the Wiz play its a complete opposite. Beal is a new alpha, lord knows whats going to happen when Wall comes back. Beal is unselfish for the most part, and so is that other Guy.


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