Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I]

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Who are your top 3 bets for ROTY if Zion sits out season? (RESET)

Brandon Clarke
30
7%
PJ Washington
12
3%
Kendrick Nunn
68
17%
Ja Morant
161
40%
Darius Garland
3
1%
Coby White
11
3%
Rui Hachimura
13
3%
RJ Barrett
40
10%
De’Andre Hunter
8
2%
Tyler Herro
59
15%
 
Total votes: 405

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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1781 » by Marcus » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:52 am

MotownMadness wrote:Sekou just still needs some seasoning which was expected. He tries to defend every possession like its game 7 final mins and gets himself in foul trouble.

That type of motor will pay off big though once he starts to get the fundamental stuff.


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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1782 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:57 am

bran muffin wrote:Kendrick Nunn

  • His first 5 games: 22.4 ppg @ 31.6 mpg @ 62.9% TS
  • His next 34 games: 14.4 ppg @ 30.0 mpg @ 51.7% TS

Wow, still good numbers for a surprising rookie thrown into a big role.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1783 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:16 am

He won't get a big enough role but MP Jr should at least get his name on the list for some acknowledgement.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1784 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:14 am

Naz Reid dropped 18 in 16 minutes off the bench for Minny
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1785 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:13 am



16pts (6-9 fgs, 2-3 3pt) 8rebs, a steal and a block from the youngster tonight.

That 3 point shot is looking smooth for a 6'9 guy.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1786 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:18 am

Sucks Sekous got a few games of garbage mins holding back his stats a bit.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1787 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:30 am

clyde21 wrote:Naz Reid dropped 18 in 16 minutes off the bench for Minny



Sam Perkins 2.0?
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1788 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:36 am

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clyde21 wrote:Naz Reid dropped 18 in 16 minutes off the bench for Minny



Sam Perkins 2.0?


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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1789 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:44 am

I've been thinking a bit about a comp for Culver. I don't want to put these types of expectations on him and I'm not saying he's now or will be as good, but there are times where Jarrett Culver gives me a Scottie Pippen vibe.

Pippen was never a great shooter (just twice over .350 3P%), he had good facilitating instincts but probably should never be the primary PG, was a smooth athlete, and very good to great on defense. All ways that Culver could be described someday, and has already shown flashes.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1790 » by Roddy B for 3 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:05 am

clyde21 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Naz Reid dropped 18 in 16 minutes off the bench for Minny



Sam Perkins 2.0?


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Bigger, more defense potential Channing Fry. The dude has a crazy quick (and clean looking release).

One of the quickest 7 footers 3pt release I've ever seen.

I had him #31 on my big board.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1791 » by Capn'O » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:43 am

Klomp wrote:I've been thinking a bit about a comp for Culver. I don't want to put these types of expectations on him and I'm not saying he's now or will be as good, but there are times where Jarrett Culver gives me a Scottie Pippen vibe.

Pippen was never a great shooter (just twice over .350 3P%), he had good facilitating instincts but probably should never be the primary PG, was a smooth athlete, and very good to great on defense. All ways that Culver could be described someday, and has already shown flashes.


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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1792 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:49 am

PJ Washington: 20pts / 11rebs / 3asts / 2stls / 2blks

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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1793 » by MartyConlonJr » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:41 pm

clyde21 wrote:so far

1st team:

G Ja Morant
G Tyler Herro
F RJ Barrett
F Brandon Clarke
C Jaxson Hayes

2nd team:

G Darius Garland
G Coby White
F Jarrett Culver
F Rui Hachimura
F PJ Washington

if Zion plays a decent amount of games he'll make one of these teams for sure, and might replace Matisse for Sekou if Sekou continues to kill it


Kendrick Nunn doesn't even make a rookie team now? Why does Kendrick putting up better numbers (raw and advanced) than both on a contending team over their lottery teams not warrant a spot? Though I like Herro better than Nunn for my Heat long term, I probably put Nunn in first team before him at this stage, though I expect it could flip by end of season.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1794 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:24 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:
clyde21 wrote:so far

1st team:

G Ja Morant
G Tyler Herro
F RJ Barrett
F Brandon Clarke
C Jaxson Hayes

2nd team:

G Darius Garland
G Coby White
F Jarrett Culver
F Rui Hachimura
F PJ Washington

if Zion plays a decent amount of games he'll make one of these teams for sure, and might replace Matisse for Sekou if Sekou continues to kill it


Kendrick Nunn doesn't even make a rookie team now? Why does Kendrick putting up better numbers (raw and advanced) than both on a contending team over their lottery teams not warrant a spot? Though I like Herro better than Nunn for my Heat long term, I probably put Nunn in first team before him at this stage, though I expect it could flip by end of season.


eh, Nunn is like 25, I'm more impressed with the 19 year olds.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1795 » by MetalFingaz » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:20 pm

clyde21 wrote:
MartyConlonJr wrote:
clyde21 wrote:so far

1st team:

G Ja Morant
G Tyler Herro
F RJ Barrett
F Brandon Clarke
C Jaxson Hayes

2nd team:

G Darius Garland
G Coby White
F Jarrett Culver
F Rui Hachimura
F PJ Washington

if Zion plays a decent amount of games he'll make one of these teams for sure, and might replace Matisse for Sekou if Sekou continues to kill it


Kendrick Nunn doesn't even make a rookie team now? Why does Kendrick putting up better numbers (raw and advanced) than both on a contending team over their lottery teams not warrant a spot? Though I like Herro better than Nunn for my Heat long term, I probably put Nunn in first team before him at this stage, though I expect it could flip by end of season.


eh, Nunn is like 25, I'm more impressed with the 19 year olds.


Coby has done absolutely nothing to be ahead of Nunn for a 2nd team slot.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1796 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:38 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
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Kendrick Nunn doesn't even make a rookie team now? Why does Kendrick putting up better numbers (raw and advanced) than both on a contending team over their lottery teams not warrant a spot? Though I like Herro better than Nunn for my Heat long term, I probably put Nunn in first team before him at this stage, though I expect it could flip by end of season.


eh, Nunn is like 25, I'm more impressed with the 19 year olds.


Coby has done absolutely nothing to be ahead of Nunn for a 2nd team slot.


Coby per36: 16.9 / 5.2 / 3.3 / 1.2

Nunn per36: 18.4 / 3.2 / 4.2 / 1.1

Coby is 19 and Nunn is like 25...ill take Coby here
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1797 » by MetalFingaz » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:52 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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eh, Nunn is like 25, I'm more impressed with the 19 year olds.


Coby has done absolutely nothing to be ahead of Nunn for a 2nd team slot.


Coby per36: 16.9 / 5.2 / 3.3 / 1.2

Nunn per36: 18.4 / 3.2 / 4.2 / 1.1

Coby is 19 and Nunn is like 25...ill take Coby here


I'll take Coby over the long term, too, but that's not what all-Rookie teams are set to consider. Nunn's a meaningful contributor on the 4th best team in basketball. Coby's got a 48 TS% and doesn't (yet) impact games if his shot isn't falling (which it usually isn't).

And Nunn will be 24 for another 8 months.
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1798 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:55 pm

MetalFingaz wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
MetalFingaz wrote:
Coby has done absolutely nothing to be ahead of Nunn for a 2nd team slot.


Coby per36: 16.9 / 5.2 / 3.3 / 1.2

Nunn per36: 18.4 / 3.2 / 4.2 / 1.1

Coby is 19 and Nunn is like 25...ill take Coby here


I'll take Coby over the long term, too, but that's not what all-Rookie teams are set to consider. Nunn's a meaningful contributor on the 4th best team in basketball. Coby's got a 48 TS% and doesn't (yet) impact games if his shot isn't falling (which it usually isn't).

And Nunn will be 24 for another 8 months.


rookie teams are about who's more impressive to me, context of how old they are matters to me tbh, i'll take Coby's production at 19 than Nunn's at 24
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1799 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:26 am

RJ: 22pts / 8rebs / 3asts / 1stl / 1blk

Ja: 26pts / 5rebs / 8asts / 1stl / 1blk

Clarke: 14pts / 7rebs / 2asts / 1st

Hunter: 15pts / 3rebs
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Re: Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I] 

Post#1800 » by HoopsterJones » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:20 am

Ja Morant is the ROY. There’s no debate right now.
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